Metagame [SPOILERS] Scarlet & Violet OU Discussion [BAN LIST POST 626]

[Bakugames]

anyone wanna see the initial sv ou ban list

only if meowscarada is there so i dont have to see it on ladder

 

[Steez Ibanez]

why are we banning arena trap again? was gen8 not good enough to show how broken boots (plus regen) w no check is?

 

[Finchinator]

why are we banning arena trap again? was gen8 not good enough to show how broken boots (plus regen) w no check is?

ratio

 

[Ctann]

Palafin finna be OU

It got Battle Bond, but debatably slightly worse. Zero to Hero is legit a Battle Bond but if you switch. It can use Encore locking, Haze, Boomburst. It gets walled by pex ye - until it pulls out Zen Headbutt

I think a CB set with Flip Turn (to proc Zero to Hero), Close Combat, Jet Punch for priority and Zen Headbutt / Tera Blast for Toxapex. Imma spam it on ladder and show y'all its potential

Furthermore, its stats. 100/160/97/106/87/100. Almost on the level of FUCKIN KYUREM BLACK. I'm almost certain this monster is UUBL if not an Uber. Its fast, strong, and can take a hit if need be. I'm so hyped man. This thing is Ash-Greninja at home and it'll prove itself

if rain is relevant at all, paladin will be a staple.

rain boosted jet punch of 160 attack is significantly better than aqua jet from Barraskewda.

and it doesn’t need a choice band to 2hko the non-water resisted metagame.

A lot of the Pokémon faster than it can’t resist the priority attacks, so offensive counter play will be more difficult than against barraskewda. This is because it has decent bulk and can switch moves with mystic water or life orb.

and barraskewda is precedent for how potent a fast and strong water type can be against offensive teams.

it remains to be seen if rain is a common or viable strategy tho.. so let’s find out.

 

[DeepFriedMagikarp]

No koraidon miraidon in ou

 

[MattC (Banned)]

if rain is relevant at all, paladin will be a staple.

rain boosted jet punch of 160 attack is significantly better than aqua jet from Barraskewda.

and it doesn’t need a choice band to 2hko the non-water resisted metagame.

A lot of the Pokémon faster than it can’t resist the priority attacks, so offensive counter play will be more difficult than against barraskewda. This is because it has decent bulk and can switch moves with mystic water or life orb.

and barraskewda is precedent for how potent a fast and strong water type can be against offensive teams.

it remains to be seen if rain is a common or viable strategy tho.. so let’s find out.

So far we got Pelipper to set it (but no Defog) and Barraskewda as a Swift Swimmer. How was rain teams in SM OU Ctann? I think it'll be like that

 

[Finchinator]

ok

PLUS SLEEP CLAUSE WE ARENT DOING THIS AGAIN I JUST FORGOT OOPS

 

[Isaiah]

PLUS SLEEP CLAUSE WE ARENT DOING THIS AGAIN I JUST FORGOT OOPS

Which one :P

 

[thecolinater5]

No koraidon miraidon in ou

look here I atleast want to have a chance playing my triple dog dream team without having to deal with zacian 2.0 and 3.0

 

[MattC (Banned)]

PLUS SLEEP CLAUSE WE ARENT DOING THIS AGAIN I JUST FORGOT OOPS

L ratio

 

[Finchinator]

L ratio

2009 name with 2022 join date

 

[MattC (Banned)]

Imma try Revavroom in the meta. It seems alright, but has flaws

Its not bulky, needs Shift Gear to do much of anything and has coverage issues. Tera Blast only does so much

 

[Finchinator]

ok

lax incense banned too yall

 

[MattC (Banned)]

And swagger

 

[ritch.]

ok

Thoughts on banning the all might dolphin?

 

[Finchinator]

Thoughts on banning the all might dolphin?

natuday

 

[Isaiah]

lax incense banned too yall

You forgot to ban Magnet Pull

 

[MattC (Banned)]

Thoughts on banning the all might dolphin?

We need to see Ash-Greninja 2.0 in action

EDIT: it gets walled by Jellicent. We need it in SV

 

[Blox]

Terastilization will be on that list come Thanksgiving

 

[Finchinator]

You forgot to ban Magnet Pull

nope

 

[lydian]

free kings rock thanks

 

[MattC (Banned)]

Just ban all the previous banned stuff

 

[thecolinater5]

thats basically what they did I think

 

[MattC (Banned)]

thats basically what they did I think

Oh. Well, this is gone be a long useless list with goofy ahh items no one uses

 

[MattC (Banned)]

Wait wait wait wait wait

What about stall?

Quag got 3 hazards, pex isnt dexit and Clodsire is a similar Quag