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Pokemon Scarlet & Violet - 18th Nov 2022! **OFFICIAL INFO ONLY**

Not to get too Number Theory and lean into pattern recognition traps but if you remove the Pokemon from that list who are already in the game, you can add in all the remaining Legendary Pokemon (excluding the Ultra Beasts, which internally seemed to haev been removed from that designation) and come out to ~236 (I also threw in Keldeo) which would fit snugly in the "over 230" number they're touting
 
Not sure if this was mentioned yet - but the two characters on each of the posters are called Carmine and Kieran.

Carmine;
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Kieran
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Haven't seen a lot of discussion about them so far. (Not that there is much to discuss)

Hopefully they're rivals that have more personality/character than Nemona.
 
Not sure which normal type to feel more bad for between Spinda, Furfrou and Watchog
I would say Watchog because Furfrou and Spinda have mechanical reasons why their appearances/transferability is going to be limited, whereas Watchog and the elemental monkeys are the last remaining mons to be excluded from the games simply because Game Freak forgot about them or doesn't like them.
 
Not sure if this was mentioned yet - but the two characters on each of the posters are called Carmine and Kieran.

Carmine;

Kieran

Haven't seen a lot of discussion about them so far. (Not that there is much to discuss)

Hopefully they're rivals that have more personality/character than Nemona.
She's very straight forward about what she likes but Nemona has plenty of personality imo

It is funny how their artwork and names are only in the press release. Despite being presumably part of our academy and going with us to these places and being on the key art neither the presentation or the website or the rest of the press release acknowledges them.

Actually I assumed they were part of our academy but I bet they're part of Blueberry. Presumably they also took a trip to the festival.
 
Rattata-A*, Raticate-A*, Spinda*, Snivy, Servine, Serperior, Tepig, Pignite, Emboar, Patrat, Watchog, Pansage, Simisage, Pansear, Simisear, Panpour, Simipour, Furfrou

Watchog and the monkeys are now the only Gen 5 Pokemon besides the starters who are still Dexited after the SV DLC comes out.

Talk about being so unlikable from a design standpoint and being so horrible and uninteresting in battle that you still don't make it into a mainline Switch game after all of SwSh+DLC, PLA, and SV+SV DLC.

RIP Bozos, you won't be missed ahahaha.
 
The only reason Spinda is in a dumb spot is purely beacuse BDSP messed up how it generates the spots. This will not be an issue with any other game
 
I get Furfrou but Spinda? You mean the pattern generation? Every other game managed that, why shouldn't the switch games?
Every other game didn't manage it, though. ILCA messed up with BDSP which is why Spinda isn't allowed to leave or enter those games. In other words, Spinda has an excuse for being a trouble mon whereas Watchog is excluded just because.

Not sure if this was mentioned yet - but the two characters on each of the posters are called Carmine and Kieran.

Carmine;

Kieran

Haven't seen a lot of discussion about them so far. (Not that there is much to discuss)

Hopefully they're rivals that have more personality/character than Nemona.
Interesting that they both have hair which makes a cross over their face.
 
So other than the guys in the datamine we probably have the legends and a few more mythicals coming probably, considering what crown tundra brought us
 
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Every other game didn't manage it, though. ILCA messed up with BDSP which is why Spinda isn't allowed to leave or enter those games. In other words, Spinda has an excuse for being a trouble mon whereas Watchog is excluded just because.
Huh I didn't know that. Makes sense considering it's BDSP
 
So uh are we allowed to enter Walking Wake raids from Violet? Been trying for like 15 min now
It's something I notice even during normal times, raids fill up fast since they only update on manual refresh and not in realtime. Now consider that people are rushing to get into raids for both mons as Version Exclusives, big new "Legendaries", and something they'd otherwise have to hunt in game for their own raid den and figure out a Solo for.
 
I wonder if the excluded pokemon from the list were just legendaries and mythicals? Because I remember hearing that not all 240 are on that list.

Plus I don't think GF wants returning legends/mythicals leaked.
 
Plus I don't think GF wants returning legends/mythicals leaked.
There's not so much to leak, so far all generations (including swsh) had *all* legendaries returning since they are basically a given for VGC.

Mythicals ofc are another beast entirely, but they're generally related to events, thus would be reasonable if they will wait to add some of them until the event is near.
 
There's not so much to leak, so far all generations (including swsh) had *all* legendaries returning since they are basically a given for VGC.

Mythicals ofc are another beast entirely, but they're generally related to events, thus would be reasonable if they will wait to add some of them until the event is near.
If we assume that the final tally is the absolute maximum possible of 239, we have 23 slots left for returning mons. Even if EVERY one of those is a returning legend it won't be enough: Pre-Paldea minor legendaries alone if you don't count Ultra Beasts bring the tally to 36. Add in mascots and it's well over 50.

Some of that count has already been chipped away at by Home additions, but it makes no difference. No legend spam. Not this time. Thank fucking god.
 
If we assume that the final tally is the absolute maximum possible of 239, we have 23 slots left for returning mons. Even if EVERY one of those is a returning legend it won't be enough: Pre-Paldea minor legendaries alone if you don't count Ultra Beasts bring the tally to 36. Add in mascots and it's well over 50.

Some of that count has already been chipped away at by Home additions, but it makes no difference. No legend spam. Not this time. Thank fucking god.
How is 239 the absolute maximum possible, they just said over 230.
 
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