And all of those are Gen 5 other than Furfrou. Gen 5 remake in the work perhaps?
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It totally ties into the Burned Tower. Raikou called down the lightning bolt. Suicune used Sunny Day to put out the fire with Hydro Steam but of course that just made it burn worse.. Paradox Entei’s other type was clearly Grass/Bug/Ice/Steel and so it couldn’t survive either.
Raikou the villain (likely part Dark), Suicune the failed hero, Entei the innocent victim. This is why Eusine chases Suicune, he wants to convince it that it wasn’t its fault, though Suicune will always blame itself. Kinda sad.
Why specify 230 otherwise? They would have said over 240 or over 250 surely.
If you remove all the Pokemon that are already in the game, which presumably do not count towards the "over 230" number based on SWSH's DLC, from that list and then added i nthe remaining Legendary pokemon not already in the game (of which there are MANY, by the way), it comes out to ~235
so....
You playing Scarlet or Violet, cause if you're playing Violet you can just solo Iron Leaves with a properly trained Skeledirge.
Scarlet or I'd not bother playing online with all these kids. I did Wake offline
Tell me about it. You'd think more people would use Gholdengo or something that can actually resist all of its attacks, but no. You get people who don't bother and let it get up to +6 atk because why not? I got some guy who tried to use Anihilape of all things.
It's a pretty straightforward foil to the headcanon that PS was some alleged forerunner to the three beasts, which isn't something that really made sense given what we know about their creation. Not that this is the speculation thread but it's seemed pretty obvious since the Cyclizar/Koraidon lore reveals (to me at least) that the Paradoxes aren't literal antecedents/descendants. Between the weird dex entries, Arven's commentary, and really strange details on things like Slither Wing and Sandy Shocks it's pretty clear that the paradoxes as a group are just present day mons reimagined through dinosaurian/cyborg tropes of the past and future respectively. Walking Wake isn't actually related to the Suicune we know –– it's a manifestation of what an ancient Suicune might've looked like assuming the ancient past actually looked like the Flintstones or Jurassic Park.
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20 battles so far and all quick wipes as everyone just throws out random legends and starters
Without UBs, which lost the Legendary flag
Occurs to me that this list of Pokemon is probably meant to be split across the two expansions personal pokedexes, which would explain why there's some but not all Pokemon in the game already and in particular would explain Wooper/Quagsire being here. Meanwhile all the legends would occupy outside it, alongside the other misc Pokemon like the Kalos starter & Samurott.
Wouldn't surprise me if Teal Mask's area counts as a separate region for Wooper & Quagsire so you could just pick them up normally here rather than just the trade & breeding. Who knows, maybe it counts as "not-Paldea" enough to breed normal Tauros too, but that won't be in the "Kitakami" dex.
Maybe Kitakami lets you get the Hisuian Pokemon natively too? Since they, including Enamorus, also get to be getting dex entries judging by the list. Would certainly make the Zoroark wi-fi gift fit in.
How fun.
Wouldn't surprise me if Teal Mask's area counts as a separate region for Wooper & Quagsire so you could just pick them up normally here rather than just the trade & breeding. Who knows, maybe it counts as "not-Paldea" enough to breed normal Tauros too, but that won't be in the "Kitakami" dex.
Maybe Kitakami lets you get the Hisuian Pokemon natively too? Since they, including Enamorus, also get to be getting dex entries judging by the list. Would certainly make the Zoroark wi-fi gift fit in.
How fun.
VGC 2024 could be in Spain, too early to say
Or it's an ode to how Spain was a pioneer of world exploration. Could be seen either way, really.
Like how we left the UK to explore India and America in gen VIII's DLC?
c'mon dude
also, that's clearly a Japanese inspired region nothing to do with Spain and don't bring Portugal into this, maaaaaybe if this was a legend Arceus kind of game I would have bought a Portugal-Japan connection; in a modern setting though? no way
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Supposedly no VGC worlds in Spain may be due to laws about competitions or something? Serebii Joe speculated something about this on Twitter back when worlds in Yokohama was announced, but I couldn't find the tweet where he explained the reasoning.
Across the entire DLC
My impression in terms of travelling in this DLC is that we're leaving for another region in only the first half of the DLC, aka "The Teal Mask", while the second part, aka "The Indigo Disk", is taking place in a place adjacent to Paldea, on the same landmass, probably in that area that we know is intentionally blanked out as of now.
The first half's schtick, a travel to the land of Kitakami, is part of a school trip, which ties into SV's Naranja/Uva Academy and school vibes, and seems to be taking on the idea of a field trip which is very common for schools to do, only this one is where we travel to another land as part of that "field trip".
The second half is probably close to Paldea, if not outright still in Paldea itself, since we're enrolling in what is essentially a sister academy of Naranja/Uva Academy, the Blueberry Academy, and this one is also tying into what is seemingly the "third legendary" of the game, Terapagos, who has ties to the Terastal phenomenon. As I said, it's probably on that nearby piece of the map near the North Province that we know is intentionally "whited out"
This seems to be taking the concepts of Galar's DLC halves and doing it times a million. The first half being a field trip to another region is a more extreme version of SwSh DLC's first half (Isle of Armor) taking place on a nearby island, even though in that case it wasn't to another region and was to just a nearby landmass that is still considered part of Galar (in this case based on the Isle of Man which is still close to the UK), and the second half of SwSh's DLC (the Crown Tundra) was in the southern part of Galar and was still part of the main landmass, and focused on legendaries, especially Calyrex which was believed to be a king of Galar in ancient times and its two steeds.
Only in this case, the two halves stories seem to have an overarching plot with "The Hidden Treasure of Area Zero" being the name, and whether this is functionally closer to Emerald/Platinum/USUM in terms of being "enhancement of base game" or if this is a continuation of SV's story a la BW2 is something we have yet to know. That will be interesting to find out.
The first half's schtick, a travel to the land of Kitakami, is part of a school trip, which ties into SV's Naranja/Uva Academy and school vibes, and seems to be taking on the idea of a field trip which is very common for schools to do, only this one is where we travel to another land as part of that "field trip".
The second half is probably close to Paldea, if not outright still in Paldea itself, since we're enrolling in what is essentially a sister academy of Naranja/Uva Academy, the Blueberry Academy, and this one is also tying into what is seemingly the "third legendary" of the game, Terapagos, who has ties to the Terastal phenomenon. As I said, it's probably on that nearby piece of the map near the North Province that we know is intentionally "whited out"
This seems to be taking the concepts of Galar's DLC halves and doing it times a million. The first half being a field trip to another region is a more extreme version of SwSh DLC's first half (Isle of Armor) taking place on a nearby island, even though in that case it wasn't to another region and was to just a nearby landmass that is still considered part of Galar (in this case based on the Isle of Man which is still close to the UK), and the second half of SwSh's DLC (the Crown Tundra) was in the southern part of Galar and was still part of the main landmass, and focused on legendaries, especially Calyrex which was believed to be a king of Galar in ancient times and its two steeds.
Only in this case, the two halves stories seem to have an overarching plot with "The Hidden Treasure of Area Zero" being the name, and whether this is functionally closer to Emerald/Platinum/USUM in terms of being "enhancement of base game" or if this is a continuation of SV's story a la BW2 is something we have yet to know. That will be interesting to find out.
I think that the Area Zero stuff we learn in most of the DLC will be stuff that can stand alone as additional information to enrich what you know about the place, but to reach the proper finale you'll need to beat the game so it ensures you have full context of what's going on (& maybe bring in the trio who knows).
I've never understood how to find the special raids - do you just go across the map and look for it? I'm pretty sure I've checked every Psychic-type Tera Raid (I have Violet) and I haven't found Iron Leaves.