What I've said is pretty darn relevant, at least in the long run. When I say "Republicans are winning on the issues", I am making the case that Republicans in a debate are able to convince the nation that they are on the right side, not that they are correct. We partisans will obviously say that our side is right, but who will the few people in the middle think was correct? In the vice presidential debate, which is probably the closest thing we'll have to a normal presidential debate until 2024, I've shown that Republicans have spoken more persuasively. (Which is why I originally said that Pence won last night, for whatever that is worth.) I don't think this is enough for Republicans, because only the Presidential debates really matter and Trump has shot and likely will shoot himself in the foot in the debates. But will the next batch of Democrats be ready for 2024 when they show up expecting another Trump and get another Pence?The debate last night had very little credibility due to the absence of fact checking, despite it being more credible than the presidential debate. The problem is you are basing this entire argument on points made by Pence that are mostly lies, lies of omission, or misleading claims. So yeah, I can see how a conservative voter can think Pence made “winning” arguments.
Just in reading your responses, I could dissect point by point all the “wins” you citedby Pence as being grade A bullshit (“Republicans has better judgement on COVID where as Biden/Harris have no plan”.. really??) but that would be a huge waste of time.
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