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Ginger Princess

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I'm back at it again with a weird mon for a nom
Weird how nom is an anagram for mon. Also Shyom with another nom rhymes.

Eelektross for UT
This will be my dumbest nom that might not get through but Imma try my best.

Why Eelektross?
Cause it ain't got a weakness. Also yeah, it doesn't have enough bulk to accompany it. It just gets outclassed by the Electric Types in the tier, but it does have its own niches. Firstly, it beats some of the stuff Magnezone and Zeraora and the Electric company can still beat. Gyarados and Gene to name a few.
252+ Atk Gyarados-Mega Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 32 Def Eelektross: 316-372 (84.7 - 99.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
152+ SpA Eelektross Gigavolt Havoc (190 BP) vs. 248 HP / 48 SpD Gyarados-Mega: 414-488 (105.3 - 124.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Genesect Bug Buzz vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Eelektross: 276-325 (73.9 - 87.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
152+ SpA Eelektross Flamethrower vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Genesect: 360-424 (127.2 - 149.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
But what can it do that the Electric company cannot do?
It has a free Air Balloon, but still doesn't have the bulk to really do things it wants to do. It does have Acid Spray which in theory beats mons like Type:Null (tried to find someone to test it with me, nobody did ;-;). But one of the most notable things it can do is beat Swampert. Most Electric types don't have a way of dealing with Pert. Zeraora's Grass Knot isn't enough. Eelektross on the otherhand has immunity to EQ, and can Grass Knot to its heart's content.
Is that all Eelektross can do?
I don't know, that why I'm nomming it for UT, cause I feel like Eelektross can do something other than having no weakness and wiggling around.
Tbh i’ve always wanted to make eelektross work competitively so lowkey i hope some new hidden tech gets discovered. Although are there any other ground types eelektross can beat besides swamp that other electric types can’t handle?
 
Tbh i’ve always wanted to make eelektross work competitively so lowkey i hope some new hidden tech gets discovered. Although are there any other ground types eelektross can beat besides swamp that other electric types can’t handle?
Grass Knot Zera beats these too but
252+ Atk Donphan Head Smash vs. 248 HP / 32 Def Eelektross: 196-231 (52.5 - 61.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (25.5 - 30% recoil damage)
152+ SpA Eelektross Grass Knot (100 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Donphan: 288-340 (75 - 88.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Golem wins if it outspeeds
You can beat Lando t if they don't bring smack down
That's all I have yeah Eelektross is pretty bad
 
Nomming Espeon for UT
Wanna C My Tails? (Espeon) @ Fairium Z
Ability: Magic Bounce
EVs: 248 HP / 68 Def / 192 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Stored Power
- Charm
- Calm Mind
- Morning Sun

Stalls out stuff then wtf boom nukes it with stored power and is taunt proof
Idk I'm too lazy for calcs and stuff so UT

Edit: Shyom said to say something it beats so uhh it beats Zygarde
 
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Did someone say espeon owo

Espeon @ Psychium Z
Ability: Magic Bounce
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Future Sight
- Morning Sun
- Reflect / Light Screen
- Calm Mind / Light Screen

252 SpA Espeon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Charizard-Mega-X: 354-417 (98.3 - 115.8%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

252 SpA Espeon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Porygon-Z: 394-465 (105.3 - 124.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

outstalls magnezone with z-screen

beats mew with cm (kew either eventually runs out pp and has to taunt itself or doesn't have amnesia and loses to cm (also crits))

x pluff

252 SpA Espeon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 252 HP / 84+ SpD Kommo-o: 500-590 (141.2 - 166.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 SpA Espeon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Landorus-Therian: 373-441 (97.6 - 115.4%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

bops z-wave kiss, eh vs scarf

physical altaria may catch you off guard but you should win most of the time if not always

should somewhat reliably beat all non-physical variants

light screen should be able to BARELY stall down all of clefable's moonblasts (provided you don't get crit) and wear down its own healing with future sight

252 SpA Espeon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 357-420 (99.7 - 117.3%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO

stalls heatran

cm > bulky prima, light screen > offensive prima

cm > fini

252 SpA Espeon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Venusaur-Mega: 396-468 (109 - 128.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 SpA Espeon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Kartana: 373-439 (115.8 - 136.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

same deal as magnezone for magneton

252 SpA Espeon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Pinsir-Mega: 339-400 (125 - 147.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

cm > p2

252 SpA Espeon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Volcarona: 297-349 (95.4 - 112.2%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO

who cares about b- and below
solid C/C- viability mon, but it's F because people don't use it or something hahahahahahhahahaaahhah
 
Did someone say espeon owo

Espeon @ Psychium Z
Ability: Magic Bounce
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Future Sight
- Morning Sun
- Reflect / Light Screen
- Calm Mind / Light Screen

252 SpA Espeon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Charizard-Mega-X: 354-417 (98.3 - 115.8%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

252 SpA Espeon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Porygon-Z: 394-465 (105.3 - 124.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

outstalls magnezone with z-screen

beats mew with cm (kew either eventually runs out pp and has to taunt itself or doesn't have amnesia and loses to cm (also crits))

x pluff

252 SpA Espeon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 252 HP / 84+ SpD Kommo-o: 500-590 (141.2 - 166.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 SpA Espeon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Landorus-Therian: 373-441 (97.6 - 115.4%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

bops z-wave kiss, eh vs scarf

physical altaria may catch you off guard but you should win most of the time if not always

should somewhat reliably beat all non-physical variants

light screen should be able to BARELY stall down all of clefable's moonblasts (provided you don't get crit) and wear down its own healing with future sight

252 SpA Espeon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 357-420 (99.7 - 117.3%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO

stalls heatran

cm > bulky prima, light screen > offensive prima

cm > fini

252 SpA Espeon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Venusaur-Mega: 396-468 (109 - 128.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 SpA Espeon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Kartana: 373-439 (115.8 - 136.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

same deal as magnezone for magneton

252 SpA Espeon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Pinsir-Mega: 339-400 (125 - 147.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

cm > p2

252 SpA Espeon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Volcarona: 297-349 (95.4 - 112.2%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO

who cares about b- and below
solid C/C- viability mon, but it's F because people don't use it or something hahahahahahhahahaaahhah
But you said usage doesn't affect viability which is why P2 and Victini are both B.
 
I just realized Weavile isn't on the thing
I'm going to nom it for say, C
Some examples
Kills Dragonite
Kills Aegislash with Darkinium
Kills Greninja with Sub/Giga Impact/Brick Break
It's fast and kills stuff
 

ayedan

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Looking at the VR, I just wanna give my current thoughts and what I think should rise/drop on the rankings.


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Aegislash: A- ---> A

As the days pass by, Aegislash is getting much better with the recent trends of Magearna, Tapu Lele, and Jirachi. Using Ghostium Z, it can nuke about any Pokemon followed up by a Shadow Sneak if needed. Decreased usage in Zygarde and Landorus-Therian have also helped Aegislash rise in prevalency. While Aegislash is weak to Mega Charizard X, it can cause 50/50s against an opposing Mega Charizard X with King Shield (barring Substitute sets). Overall, Aegislash has kept up with recent metagame trends and deserves a rise.


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Magneton: B ---> B-/lower

While Magneton is viable, its outclassed by Magnezone and its only niche is beating non Jolly Mega Gyarados. Even then, Jolly Mega Gyarados has a decent amount of usage (252+ currently having ~11% usage) and its not hard to speed creep anyways only needing 170+ speed evs to outspeed Magneton. Honestly, you are better off using Magnezone or finding a better Mega Gyarados check. This is why Magneton should drop.


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Mega Camerupt: B- ----> C+

In the current meta, Mega Camerupt loses to many top threats and viable Pokemon in general like Mega Gyarados, Greninja, Mega Slowbro, Zygarde, and Kommo-o. Usage doesn't equal viability but from April's usage stats, Mega Camerupt comes in at 159th in usage, behind some unranked Pokemon like Magnemite and Jellicent. Preferably so, a Pokemons viability should also reflect on usage but Mega Camerupt has very little usage to uphold such a high ranking. Understandably, it can beat some viable pokemon like Mega Charizards, Magearna, and Mega Metagross so, I feel like C+ would be a perfect fit for Mega Camerupt.


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Kyurem: B- ----> B

Kyurem, while not Kyurem Black, has a define place in the meta as a PP staller and powerful Z user. Using sets like Z-Groundium to beat pokemon like Magearna, most Mega Mawiles, and frail Metagrosses and Z Noble Roar for slow Tapu Leles and Scarf Porygon Z. It can also beat other top threats with Haban Berry like Dragonite, Garchomp, and Mega Charizard X. Overall, I feel like Kyurem deserves a rise to reflect its viability and show how well it is in the current meta.

I also agree with rises of Haxorus and Bulu and the drop of Mega Pinsir.
 
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Serperior C -----> B-/B


I'm nomming this up purely on the basis of its z-dual screen set, which is hugely underated in the current metagame.

The set:

Serperior @ Psychium Z
Ability: Contrary
EVs: 252 HP / 88 Def / 168 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Light Screen
- Reflect
- Leaf Storm
- Synthesis

The speed lets it outpace non-scarf garchomp, everything else put into bulk, focusing of physical def because serp can handle more on that side.

This set slays a ton of common stuff it beat stuff like gyara, metagross, slowbro, zygarde, Magnezone,Prima, Fini, Zera, Chomp and a ton of other stuff. fairly easily to build around as well. Its a hell of a lot better than the garbage in c it is paired with.
 

Morgan

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Magnezone: A -> A-
Magnezone feels like it’s ranking is inflated for the current meta. Charizard X, Gyarados, Dragonite, Zeraora, and Kommo-o are everywhere right now. This pokemon doesn’t feel like it’s stuck with the times.

Zapdos: B- -> C+
Zapdos is a pokemon to me that seems generally outclassed in every role it can fill. As a pressure staller, you have Kyurem, as an Electrium Z attacker, Magnezone and Zera, this thing doesn’t have a unique niche, so I don’t see it being a good member of B-, as it can get generally outdone by a lot of Pokemon at almost anything it tries to do.

Lilligant: C -> C-
I haven’t seen this Pokemon get used since it was ranked, and there was only 1 post trying to rank it, and nearly no usage before getting ranked. I think it’s ranked too highly as offensive grass types aren’t that good, and the ones that carve themselves a niche do it by having versatility like Mega Venusaur and Tapu Bulu

Type: Null: C+ -> B-
This thing is great, it’s ability to survive numerous hits, inability to get crit, and access to solid bulk PLUS Eviolite allows it to be one of the better stall Pokemon in the 1v1 meta right now. It’s criminally underrated atm and a rise on the VR would bring light to this absolute gem.
 
Nomming Victini for B+
This time it's me using what the vr already says

Now the first point the vr makes in deciding a Pokemon's rank is "The Pokemon's versatility enters on a big scale in the deciding of its rank, the more unpredictable a Pokemon is, the more Pokemon it can break."
Victini blows this out of the water with diverse sets like Band, Psychium, or Z-Celebrate.
Naturally because my argument is looking at sets, I'm going to use the already established Set VR.
Psychium Z: B
Choice Band: B
Icium Z: C+
Choice Scarf: C+
Z-Celebrate: B-
It has two at its level, one stage below, and two two stages below. Arguably Firium could be put somewhere here because screw Aegislash but I won't get into that, for already five is the same number of sets Dragonite has.
Now I will compare this to two Pokemon: Porygon2, and Garchomp
I am using these to compare because both of these earn their rank because of their variety of different sets.
For space's sake, I will use hide boxes
Defensive: B-
Curse: C
Offensive: C-
Seeing how Victini not only has more sets but each of them have higher ranks, it seems outrageous that the two of them share a spot in B. Now maybe you think that Porygon2 is just a weak member of B, so let's look at Naganadel too
Choice Specs: B
Dragonium Z: B-
Firium Z: B-
Poisonium Z: C-
Even Naganadel, definitely a strong member of B is surpassed by Victini's sheer diversity

Now that we've looked at how Victini is better than the surrounding B Pokemon, let's compare it to Garchomp, a member of B+. Garchomp is a very strong, popular, and diverse Pokemon that definitely deserves its spot in B+. Let's look at what the set vr says and compare it to Victini.
Choice Band: B
Groundium Z: B
Dragonium Z: B
Haban Berry: C-
Choice Scarf: B-
Physically Defensive Mega: C+
Specially Defensive Mega: C
This is rather similar to Victini, and very comparable. Now if Victini is very comparable to a very strong member of B+ in Garchomp, it would make sense for it to also be in B+. We will also look at Heatran's, which in my opinion deserves a promotion but we will still take a look.
Air Balloon: B
Z-Solar Beam: C+
Now this is much less than what Victini has, so it would make sense Victini deserves a spot in B+ too.

Victini for B+ tldr
 
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Zapdos: B- -> C+
Zapdos is a pokemon to me that seems generally outclassed in every role it can fill. As a pressure staller, you have Kyurem, as an Electrium Z attacker, Magnezone and Zera, this thing doesn’t have a unique niche, so I don’t see it being a good member of B-, as it can get generally outdone by a lot of Pokemon at almost anything it tries to do.
Zapdos' value isn't in any one particular category, but in that it can do all those things well on one set. It's a pressure staller that counters Gyarados and other water types. It's a Z-Nuker that can pressure stall Magearna and toxic stall other stallers.
 
i believe Firium Z is the best Victini set because of certain "losing matchups" you can still win thanks to Z-Will-o'Wisp, also being able to bait out protects and stuff without losing power on your V-create (even compared to the Z-V-Create)

Also what is UT ?
 

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Also what is UT ?
Untested Rank is mostly just a rank for mons that haven't really had much field testing behind them, such to the extent that they don't really have a certain set "standard" of what to be expected of them, yet are still viable in some sense; examples of this include Hydreigon, Sylveon, Araquanid, Abomasnow-Mega, Buzzwole, and more. Most importantly, Untested Rank essentially will act as a placeholder rank until the Pokemon in question has either gotten enough mainstream usage in the metagame to achieve a certain "standard" by which to determine its rank, or someone makes a persuasive enough case to convince a majority of the VR council that the mon should be ranked higher.
 
Nominating Araquanid for fucking B+, if not higher
This mon is absurd, I used it for a while and I forgot how strong it was. I was surprised when I was doing the VR W/L to see how much it beats.
EVs are perfectly made to beat both zards almost 100% of the time. STAB 524 attack z liquidation just hits too hard, even on mons that resist it; Mirror Coat destroys any Choice Specs user, using Araquanid's already high SpDef. Rest can help you stall anything to death with its high bulk, and in combination with Lunge it cripples out physical attackers. It also has immunity to will o wisp, which is very nice.
Araquanid @ Waterium Z
Ability: Water Bubble
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Liquidation / Waterfall
- Mirror Coat
- Lunge
- Rest
S Rank (3/5)
Charizard-Mega-X MW
Charizard-Mega-Y W
Dragonite L
Gyarados-Mega W
Magearna ML

A+ Rank (1.5/2ish)
Porygon-Z W against scarf, L against zpz
Tapu Lele MW

A Rank (4/7ish)

Greninja W
Magnezone L
Meloetta W
Metagross-Mega W unless tpunch
Mew W
Slowbro-Mega W if they have slack off, L if they have Rest (you can run waterfall instead of liquidation to tie the pp stall but idk how that works out)
Zygarde-Complete ML


A- Rank (4/5ish)
Aegislash W unless metal sound/laser focus
Gardevoir-Mega W
Jumpluff Not sure, you can pretty much rest stall but you'd have to get lucky wakes
Kommo-o W
Landorus-Therian W against Groundium/Scarf, L against Flyinium
Togekiss 40/60

B+ Rank (10/14)
Altaria-Mega W, you win the pp stall, and if it's offensive it doesn't deal enough damage
Celesteela W against steelium, 50/50 against specs
Clefable MW, you win the pp stall
Donphan L if it has head smash or rockium, W otherwise
Garchomp W
Genesect W
Heatran W
Lopunny-Mega L
Primarina W
Sableye-Mega W
Tapu Fini W
Tyranitar-Mega MW
Venusaur-Mega weird matchup, probably lose
Zeraora L


B Rank (5/14)

Aggron-Mega 20/80
Crustle L
Ferrothorn L
Incineroar W
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Jirachi MW
Kartana L
Magneton L
Mawile-Mega ML
Naganadel W
Necrozma 40/60
Pinsir-Mega L
Porygon2 L
Victini L against choice band, W against anything else
Volcarona W
Other options you can run include:
- SpDef EVs to beat zpz and other special nukes
- Laser Focus to beat Magearna
- Rain Dance, to beat Porygon2 and Zygarde
 
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Thanks Osra for the quick answer.

Now that I know about it, I would like to put Milotic there, because I believe it to be somewhere between C- and B-, yet I'm too lazy to assess the proper matchup chart for both her sets I have used.

I'll start with the most gimmicky one, since it's potential is litterally ruined by taunt :

Milotic @ Flame Orb
Ability: Marvel Scale
EVs: 248 HP / 128 Atk / 132 Def
Impish Nature
- Recover
- Coil
- Facade
- Protect/Iron Tail/Aqua Tail/Avalanche
The idea behind it is simple : you put it in front of a physical mon, get burned by your own item to activate marvel scale, then coil to max stats. Recover allows the setup to happen. Facade doesn't get the burn malus, so it will work well with Coil. Last move is either Protect to be sure to live T1, or a coverage move if you think that might serve.
Honestly this one is probably D at best.

The other set actually make use of her stats to do what Primarina does, but worse. It can get past M-Gyara more easily tho due to Competitive HP electric.
Milotic @ Waterium Z
Ability: Competitive
EVs: 252 HP / 136 Def / 120 SpA
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Hidden Power [Electric]
- Hydro Pump
- Recover
- Ice Beam
Basically the main plan is to drop people with a Z-Water move like Primarina, except you try to cover your weaknesses with boltbeam rather than encoring setup users.

Note : The EVs in both sets are approximative, simply put there for the sets to function as intended, but without running calculations.
 

Ginger Princess

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Nominating Araquanid for fucking B+, if not higher
This mon is absurd, I used it for a while and I forgot how strong it was. I was surprised when I was doing the VR W/L to see how much it beats.
EVs are perfectly made to beat both zards 100% of the time. STAB 524 attack z liquidation just hits too hard, even on mons that resist it; Mirror Coat destroys any Choice Specs user, using Araquanid's already high SpDef. Rest can help you stall anything to death with its high bulk, and in combination with Lunge it cripples out physical attackers. It also has immunity to will o wisp, which is also very nice.
Araquanid @ Waterium Z
Ability: Water Bubble
EVs: 112 HP / 252 Atk / 144 Def
Adamant Nature
- Liquidation / Waterfall
- Mirror Coat
- Lunge
- Rest
S Rank (3/5)
Charizard-Mega-X W
Charizard-Mega-Y W
Dragonite L
Gyarados-Mega MW
Magearna ML

A+ Rank (1/2ish)
Porygon-Z W against scarf, L against zpz
Tapu Lele ML

A Rank (3/8ish)

Greninja W
Magnezone L
Meloetta W
Metagross-Mega L
Mew W against Kew, L against Mewnium
Slowbro-Mega W if they have slack off, L if they have Rest (you can run waterfall instead of liquidation to tie the pp stall but idk how that works out)
Zygarde-Complete ML


A- Rank (3/5ish)
Aegislash W
Gardevoir-Mega L
Jumpluff Not sure, you can pretty much rest stall but you'd have to get lucky wakes
Kommo-o L
Landorus-Therian W against Groundium/Scarf, L against Flyinium
Togekiss 40/60

B+ Rank (9/14)
Altaria-Mega W, you win the pp stall, and if it's offensive it doesn't deal enough damage
Celesteela W against steelium, 50/50 against specs
Clefable MW, you win the pp stall
Donphan L if it has head smash or rockium, W otherwise
Garchomp W
Genesect W
Heatran W
Lopunny-Mega ML
Primarina W
Sableye-Mega W
Tapu Fini W
Tyranitar-Mega L
Venusaur-Mega weird matchup, probably lose
Zeraora L


B Rank (6/14)

Aggron-Mega 20/80
Crustle L
Ferrothorn L
Incineroar W
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Jirachi MW
Kartana L
Magneton L
Mawile-Mega W
Naganadel W
Necrozma L
Pinsir-Mega L
Porygon2 L
Victini L against choice band, W against anything else
Volcarona W
Other options you can run include:
- SpDef EVs to beat mGardevoir, zpz and other special nukes
- Laser Focus to beat Magearna
- Rain Dance, to beat Porygon2 and Zygarde
Why do u need max attack?
 
Why do u need max attack?
You could potentially remove it if you wanted more bulk, but its poor attack stat needs that added investment. Without it you can't beat both zards 100% of the time, and you would probably lose many other matchups. Also, the amount of EVs you need to invest in special bulk to beat mGarde and mew or physical bulk to beat tyranitar is too much for it to be worth it
 
I just realized Weavile isn't on the thing
I'm going to nom it for say, C
Some examples
Kills Dragonite
Kills Aegislash with Darkinium
Kills Greninja with Sub/Giga Impact/Brick Break
It's fast and kills stuff
don't worry, I'll probably make a post at some point(TM)

probably for like C/C- since it's somewhat hard to fit
 

Chickenpie2

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Nomming Serperior to B+
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ok so ur fav snek is here.
serp is one of the best grass types in the tier (ok thats not saying much but hear me out)
with serps great speed and semi-decent bulk, along with a great movepool and amazing ability, serp shines above its fellow C rank peasants.
basically, its good because it can be a stally mon to outlast offensive mons, while also being about to take advantage of passive mons with Contrary Leaf Storm.
Grass typing is quite decent rn, with electric mons like zone and zera on the rise, and omnipresent water mons like prima and fini, as well as being an all round sturdy mon/ground mon check for those pesky golphans.

Its also the only viable Contrary mon, which means a lot imo. Being able to nullify moves like Rock Tomb, Confide, Metal Sound, and Electroweb is invaluable in a meta where mons like Confide Type: Null and Metal Sound Celesteela/Aegislash are running around. It also deals quite adequately with other stallmons like Sableye-Mega and Jumpluff, and Steel-types like MegAggron and (slower) Megagross.

2 main sets:
slipry snek (Serperior) @ Psychium Z
Ability: Contrary
EVs: 252 HP / 88 Def / 168 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Light Screen
- Reflect
- Leaf Storm
- Synthesis

This set basically is just a stall wall, with the added perks of being able to spam leafstorm and evade certain opposing stallers / "loose down" (opposite of set up lol) attackers.
Enough speed to outspeed Garchomp in particular so you can drop screens before it attacks. rest invested into phys def and HP. You can run more speed to outspeed base 110s and stuff but I dont see the need to.
It's one of the fastest users of screens, which allows it to takeout top tier mons like Meloetta, Gyarados, slow Metagross, Zygarde, Slowbro, Magnezone, Gardevoir i think etc.

sneaky snek (Serperior) @ Grassium Z
Ability: Contrary
EVs: 252 HP / 88 Def / 168 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Leech Seed
- Substitute
- Leaf Storm
- Grassy Terrain / Synthesis / Taunt / Filler

This is basically Whimsicott but with more offensive pressure. Grassium Z at +2 is enough to bop most mons. better matchup vs laser focus aegis and magearna as opposed to the set above.
Joker also runs some ass set with Mirror Coat which could be useful as well.

oops just saw discos post lol. uhhhhh
TLDR: i agree with disco yes mhm this was totally an original post serperior is superior vote serperior for next president.
 

Chickenpie2

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sorry for double post but i have to do this: nomming Golisopod for C ish

but before that:
Mega Swampert for at least B to B+. Slightly motivated because KGOAT spams this mon lol.
you've all seen it before. y'all know what it does.
Basically. This mon lets u 50/50 the entire meta, bar like grass and stall mons (perfect partner to serperior amirite)

reasons why its better than its B- companions.
VR matchups i gues....:
tears through B rank mons.
deals with half of B+ reliably. other half, either straight loss or semi-reliably through sleep rolls and whatnot.
togekiss is in A- and Swampert isnt. say what. (Although yeah Swampert struggles with most of these guys, except like aegis and maybe landot.)
A rank is pretty aptly dealt with, except for kew and bromega, and ofc greninjas that only run grass knot to cteam you.
A+ rank is outplay rank, you can't 'reliably' deal with these, but with the right plays it can easy fall into swamperts favour.
S rank. has a decent chance to beat all of these. https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen71v1-891218804
ok Taunt gyara and chary should technically win but swamp has the upper hand vs the others.
compared to something else in B-, like idk manaphy, it seems like Swampert is just a heck of a lot better.

basically you have 2 options: rank swamp higher or san bleep?

now that you're looking for a solid swampert check....say hello to:
IITSSSSYABOIIIIIII @ Choice Band
Ability: Emergency Exit
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Liquidation
- Leech Life
- First Impression
- Poison Jab / Pin Missile for FEAR lol

that's the main set i use, which is pretty awful, doesn't really even kill necrozma reliably with first impression.
anyway some big names that it beats: Meloetta, Mew, Deoxys, Metagross (rolls), Greninja, Slowbro, uhhhh thats about it i guess. basically theres a lot of psychic mons running around so just smack them with that first impression before they can bend their spoons.
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/1v1-creative-underrated-sets.3649588/post-8120452this inspired me to make this post, although ive never used that set before.
however i have seen another set running around, which is Charti Berry Golisopod. I think xsc used to try it out back in the day as a golphan check.
now each of these sets may seem subpar. but with their collective power, these 3 sets perfectly cover the meta and thus should be considered for at least C.
 
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now that you're looking for a solid swampert check....say hello to:
IITSSSSYABOIIIIIII @ Choice Band
Ability: Emergency Exit
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Liquidation
- Leech Life
- First Impression
- Poison Jab / Knock Off for FEAR lol
Better to use Dual Chop for FEAR, Knock Off makes you lose to Togedemaru.
 

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S Rank (3/5)
Gyarados-Mega MW? To my surprise, Mega actually just eats Lunge and bops you with Crunch. Outrage can also win, but they have to not hit themselves, I think.

A+ Rank (1.5/2ish)
Tapu Lele Unreliable In looking thoroughly into this, I found that Z-Reflect has a very reliable chance of eating Z-Liquidation + 2 following Liquidation, meaning that it becomes reliant on winning multiple 50/50s between using Liquidation again or using Mirror Coat. If Lele isn't bulked to live the 3 hits, then it likely has the SpA to OHKO you. Not to mention, a +2 Psyshock just wins, if they have it.

A Rank (4/7ish)

Meloetta W Melos bulked for Adamant Landorus-T Z-quake can live on about a 50/50 roll, but other than that, you do in fact win.
Metagross-Mega MW unless tpunch Zen can also give you problems
Slowbro-Mega MW if they have slack off, L if they have Rest (you can run waterfall instead of liquidation to tie the pp stall but idk how that works out) Calm Mind is also a problem


A- Rank (4/5ish)
Jumpluff Not sure, you can pretty much rest stall but you'd have to get lucky wakes You can beat losers who use Wide Lens Jumpluff, I think, but Infestation will give you issues, since you're often immediately forced to Rest once again as soon as you wake up, and they have enough PP to outlast all of your Rests.
Kommo-o MW Multiple needles have to be threaded, but the combination of CC into CS can feasibly win. That said, it's about as reliable as Aegislash beating Substitute + Earthquake Metagross.
Togekiss Set Dependent/Unreliable Charm on non-Scarf sets

B+ Rank (10/14)
Altaria-Mega Unreliable, you win the pp stall, and if it's offensive it doesn't deal enough damage
0 SpA Pixilate Altaria-Mega Hyper Voice vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Araquanid: 100-118 (29.4 - 34.7%) -- 8.7% chance to 3HKO
A crit or good rolls while you're sleeping at any point just mean death, with ZERO Spa. Not to mention physical just eats you

Celesteela W against steelium, 50/50 against specs You should still be able to beat Specs through Mirror Coating, so long as you know they're specs. Be wary of Leech Seed stall, though.
Garchomp Unreliable/ML 252 Atk Choice Band Garchomp Outrage vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Araquanid: 315-372 (92.6 - 109.4%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO
A banded Outrage can eat you, while Z-Outrage seals the deal. Additionally, SubSD Groundium can force a 50/50.

Primarina Unreliable/ML Moonblast into Torrent boosted OO with max Spa is actually a pretty reliable 2HKO, no matter what you do. Physdef Prima can also do some mindgames with Aria + Moonblast into Torrent boosted OO, and this is all without even mentioning the possibility of Substitute.
Tapu Fini MW You basically win vs GoA, since they can't really do much of anything besides spam Taunt. Z-move Fini, however, can CM up to +6 and OHKO you, which then makes it into a series of 50/50s
Tyranitar-Mega MW Mention that Stone Edge just bops you, especially considering it's at +40% usage

B Rank (6/14)
Incineroar L/ML Fake Out into MM is a bop or a reliable 2HKO at worst.
Mawile-Mega L? I think you forgot to factor in Intimidate for this one
Necrozma ML Specs is a very reliable OHKO (though they need a ton of SpA in order to do so), and Stored Power is a bop
P much everything else that I didn't mention was on point, though. B-/B is a suitable placement imo. And since you mentioned the comparison to Scarf Porygon-Z on discord, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to dropping that down to B/B- on the sets vr, either.
 
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