Because my vote won't make anyone win as I'm not a member of the Electoral College
Also @ Political Compass - I always knew GS was an evil commie at heart
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2012 USA Election Thread: Obama projected winner
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Because my vote won't make anyone win as I'm not a member of the Electoral College
Also @ Political Compass - I always knew GS was an evil commie at heart
im romney
I guess the mormon man looks nice enough.
Thougfh Minor anyways and there is a lack of Communist, anarchist, and celebrities on the ballot.
Thougfh Minor anyways and there is a lack of Communist, anarchist, and celebrities on the ballot.
I just can't like Mitt. Hiding tax returns seems to be a REALLY big red flag to me. Doesn't seem like he'll do well with foreign policy at all, either, which has been a strength of Obama's.
Looking forward to Deck Knight's perspective on this.
Looking forward to Deck Knight's perspective on this.
Oh looks like iDunno's post was deleted, I guess I'll delete my response.
I'm also sort of disappointed in this thread because I was looking forward to seeing some knowledgeable discussion about the candidates since this is around the time I start paying attention to it.
I'm also sort of disappointed in this thread because I was looking forward to seeing some knowledgeable discussion about the candidates since this is around the time I start paying attention to it.
[youtube]AHEposwhovk[/youtube][youtube]t439ruGCqRw[/youtube]
If Romney gets the most votes in a state, he gets all those electoral college votes. So yes, every vote counts, especially for a close state like yours. If Romney loses in your state and you didn't vote, you can blame yourself for not voting. The electoral college decides presidential elections, not the popular vote. I really don't know how else to explain it....
With the way the Electoral College is set up, candidate A could receive 33.3% of the popular vote and candidate B could receive 66.7% but candidate A would still win because of electoral votes. So I really don't know how to give a shit about voting as an average citizen
If everyone thought like you, nobody would vote.
Voter encouragement is less about encouraging the individual and more about encouraging the group so the voting system stays stimulated and the democracy is sustained.
If only a certain group is stimulated enough to vote, that group will hold all the power in government.
Thats right, each state has a different number of electoral votes. Its all a numbers game, so what? This is a very close election and for the last time every vote counts. Your state happens to be one of those in which either candiate has a good shot at winning. So go vote. If your candidate loses and you are unhappy about the country but refused to vote, look yourself in the mirror. Sorry for the attitude, but I'm telling it how it is.
I'd love your definition of so many things.
I just want to respond to this from before:
The problem is, when he was governor of Massachusetts, Romney didn't need to cater to the extreme right in order to garner votes and his basic ideologies were never put into question. The fact is, if Romney wins presidency, he will be too busy trying to win votes for reelection to actually do what you would expect him to do. He has already proven to have extremely malleable ideals, having flopped on pretty much every issue and having made a fool of himself internationally in an attempt to cater to the more emotional voters (i.e. the teabaggers). I would definitely vote for Mitt Romney based on his record as governor, but the fact is he's proven himself too easy to manipulate to be an effective president, in my opinion.
The problem is, when he was governor of Massachusetts, Romney didn't need to cater to the extreme right in order to garner votes and his basic ideologies were never put into question. The fact is, if Romney wins presidency, he will be too busy trying to win votes for reelection to actually do what you would expect him to do. He has already proven to have extremely malleable ideals, having flopped on pretty much every issue and having made a fool of himself internationally in an attempt to cater to the more emotional voters (i.e. the teabaggers). I would definitely vote for Mitt Romney based on his record as governor, but the fact is he's proven himself too easy to manipulate to be an effective president, in my opinion.
Just for a bit of emphasis...
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Mitt Romney's biggest political rival is himself from 4 or so years ago. He clearly has an internal philosophy, but he throws it out the window whenever he thinks it doesn't poll especially well. Regardless of what you think of anyone else's policies, Romney is the kind of person who will say and do anything, especially things coming from the standard Republican playbook, which he has now adopted as his own. If you vote for Mitt Romney, you're not actually voting for Mitt Romney. You're voting for the mouthpiece of the right wing whose sole motivation is to get re-elected.
(full disclosure: the video here is ron paul related, but i do not endorse ron paul, who has a lot of incredibly good ideas but a bit too much of a severe case of the crazies and the unelectables for me to actually back him)
RE: Obama. His main issues at the moment are a viciously oppositional republican-controlled house, the wanton spending of political capital on a healthcare bill with great promise and poor execution (don't get me wrong, healthcare reform is super important, but he hadn't built up enough clout to get something that big through- that's much more of a second-term endeavor), and a need to get re-elected if only to prevent the country from being essentially destroyed. Something tells me that if the 2012 elections go well for Democrats, actual things will happen and we might actually have a shot at a real functional government. A president with good ideas, no need to hedge his bets for re-election purposes, and a potentially helpful congress? A man can dream.
america pls
I can't change votes, can I? Fuck I want to vote for Vermin Supreme. I want my ponies!
Friend, he had a democratically controlled congress for two whole years and he wasted it shoving Obamacare down our throats while letting the economy suffer. Obama said if the stimulus gets passed, unemployment would be 5.6% by June 2012. All this while adding 5 trillion dollars of new debt.
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