Tera Shell has recently been found to be species restricted, meaning it won’t work on non-Tera Turtle mons once PS! is updated.How close of an ability is tera shell to Disguise for it to be banned?
Thank goodness. Maybe my teams were just tera shell weak, but that ability was basically impossible to counterplayTera Shell has recently been found to be species restricted, meaning it won’t work on non-Tera Turtle mons once PS! is updated.
It's just a Multiscale sidegrade...Thank goodness. Maybe my teams were just tera shell weak, but that ability was basically impossible to counterplay
yes and no actually. (thanks UT :3)It's just a Multiscale sidegrade...
Turn 9
The opposing Volcarona used Quiver Dance!
The opposing Volcarona's Sp. Atk rose!
The opposing Volcarona's Sp. Def rose!
The opposing Volcarona's Speed rose!
Swampert used Stone Edge!
[The opposing Volcarona's Tera Shell]
The opposing Volcarona made its shell gleam! It's distorting type matchups!
It's not very effective...
(The opposing Volcarona lost 10% of its health!)
Not really. If I hit a dragonite with a rock ivy cudgel, it takes it from super effective to neutral damage. With tera shield, Dragonite would resist the move, which makes a really big damage difference. Plus, multi hit moves can't break itIt's just a Multiscale sidegrade...
This is a great example. Mutliscale could never make volc take 10% from stone edge lmaoyes and no actually. (thanks UT :3)
Code:Turn 9 The opposing Volcarona used Quiver Dance! The opposing Volcarona's Sp. Atk rose! The opposing Volcarona's Sp. Def rose! The opposing Volcarona's Speed rose! Swampert used Stone Edge! [The opposing Volcarona's Tera Shell] The opposing Volcarona made its shell gleam! It's distorting type matchups! It's not very effective... (The opposing Volcarona lost 10% of its health!)
Isaiah | DFM | QT | Tranquility | Atha | LordBox | Ivar57 | Result | |
Ban Keldeo? | Yes | No | No | Yes | No | Yes | ABS | 3-3-1 NO ACTION |
Unban Giratina-Base? | Yes | No | Yes | Yes | No | ABS | No | 3-3-1 NO ACTION |
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Raging Bolt is now banned ! Its combination of STABS with Hadron Engine makes it a slower but even stronger Miraidon which turned out troublesome to switch into. Despite its low speed, Raging Bolt's solid bulk grants it more than enough space to click multiple times per game, each click being potentially a kill. The only pokemons that can survive a hit from the Specs variant are more or less Goodra-hisui and specially defensive Electric immune Dragon resists (Volt Absorb Corviknight, Lightning Rod Primarina, ...). Even an appealing check like specially defensive Swampert is ohkoed by Draco Meteor if knocked off. Calm Mind variants are also very dangerous, beating some of its counterplay and utilizing Raging Bolt's priority Thunderclap which makes up for its lack of speed.
252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Raging Bolt Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Swampert: 373-441 (92.3 - 109.1%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Raging Bolt Rising Voltage (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Deoxys-Defense in Electric Terrain: 348-411 (114.4 - 135.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Raging Bolt Rising Voltage (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Meloetta in Electric Terrain: 274-324 (67.8 - 80.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Rising Voltage (140 BP) vs. 4 HP / 252+ SpD Blissey in Electric Terrain: 396-466 (60.7 - 71.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Iron Bundle is unbanned ! With a brand-new metagame and a wide range of fresh counterplay, we've decided to give it a second chance. Have fun !
Kris :3
Isaiah Tranquility LordBox Quantum Tesseract DeepFriedMagikarp Ivar57 Atha Raging Bolt DNB BAN BAN BAN DNB Abstain BAN Iron Bundle Keep banned Unban Unban Keep banned Unban Abstain Unban
This was posted before Raging Bolt was in the calc, so he picked Miraidon and edited its stats.252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Rising Voltage (140 BP) vs. 4 HP / 252+ SpD Blissey in Electric Terrain: 396-466 (60.7 - 71.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Why miraidon in the calc ?
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I recently hit top 1 (I'm no longer top 1 as of writing this but the evidence is here) with a team I'd like to share. It has some unorthodox picks but I think I made a very good team here.
I also hit around 1635 but I have no photo evidence of it.
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Muk-Alola is an unorthodox regenvester, as Manaphy, Goodra-H, and a few others are the main choices. Alola-Muk does have servicable bulk, its slightly higher than that of Manaphy's and higher than Swamperts. It has very useful resistances, and it's rarity makes it something people don't take into account, as it can shut down many common wallbreakers with it's typing (Gengar, Zoro-H, Azelf). Unfortunately it does lose to the ones with strong neutral damage, and the new Keldeo which many regenvesters lose to already (Goodra-H being the biggest victim). It also is vulnerable to teams primarily focusing on special wallbreakers but in my experience they are rare. Muk-Alola in general serves the team well with knock off support and poison spreading, either through jab or fang, I have not seen a use for other moves and typically rock slide is only good for volcarona, but I keep it there anyways. If one hates Alola-Muk so much, they can replace it with my recommendation of Goodra-H with the set provided in the notes of the pokepaste.
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Corviknight, what can I say here, probably the most orthodox pokemon on my team. Basic intimidate and defog support. I run drill peck because I don't like recoil, and rocky helmet because it helps sometimes. I'd recommend boots or leftovers if you so choose, and brave bird for 50% more damage.
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Hippowdon, an extremely rare sight to see in AAA. Rarely do I ever see this pokemon. But it fitted exactly what I wanted, an unaware set up sweeper. Hippowdon can absolutely decimate teams weakened without their special attacker and no immediate power. If they have an Ogerpon or any other physical water/grass type, its a bit of a problem but other than that it can decimate. It laughs at the face of multiple physical set up sweepers. Zamazenta-Crowned? Pathetic. DD Dragonite? Pathetic. Triage Ceruledge? Pathetic. A seriously underrated ability typically used on the worst pokemon for it possible (scream tail, I'm welcome to discussing over discord about why I think unaware scream tail is the worst set ever to be popular). Unaware really shines in this use case, before this I used stealth rock whirlwind and it just did so little for the team, I do not recommend you use it but you can try whirlwind at the minimum.
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Moltres, I absolutely love this pokemon. Another extremely rare sight to see, perfect for my team. I decided to use MGLO with Brave Bird and Flare Blitz, with will-o-wisp support. If you've noticed I have some Chinese EV spreads, I decided moltres either does no damage (WBB corv, garganacl, WBB steels) or does a shit ton of damage. So I sacrificed some attack EVs and HP EVs for overall bulk (the current EV spread is better than 252hp 252atk adamant). No speed because it does have a very useful defensive typing I want to make use of. Aptly named Pack Smoker, this pokemon truly smokes the packs that are unprepared teams. If they do not have WBB flying resist or Garganacl, they will be smoked. I don't know what more I can say, I love this set. I was a previous talonflame enjoyer as well, with the same set but speed and attack. I much prefer this over Talonflame.
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Slither Wing, not an unpopular pokemon but not a popular one either. I decided I would use scrappy to break through Gholdengo and Intimidate Corviknights. Not many things want to switch into a scrappy CC from any pokemon, without the proper typing and or ability (fluffy corv takes about 30%). Not much more I can say, you can replace this pokemon with any other scrappy CC'er but I decided slither wing for the STAB U-Turn and First Impression, as well as its surprisingly high sp.def stat, which helped me one game against Keldeo.
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Gholdengo, another orthodox pick for my team. I chose water absorb for health+keldeo check. My team also has no water resist so this is just nice to have. Gholdengo offers the team resistances and immunities it does not have, so I thought it would fit nicely on the team. Previously this was a Kilowattrel with HDB and Primordial Sea.
Weaknesses of the team
Many special wallbreakers
Physical set-up Fire Types with coverage for Ground types (you need to make sure you don't eat a +2 sun-boosted ivy cudgel for example on Moltres, on switch-in or below 70%)
Scrappy CC
Mold-Breaker Keldeo (calc if specs, if specs either make a ballsy play on predict of switch and recover or go to Muk)
Electric spam (no guard zapdos, hadron engine raikou), replacing muk with goodra should mitigate this issue
Stamina Scream Tail, max speed, max spatk, dazzling gleam, stored power, rest. shout out to drainage pimp, I still owe you one
You can offer criticism but if you want a more live chat with me, I'm on discord. knightman3721
Make any tweaks you want for my team, change my team past recognition, I don't care. I just want to share.
signed zezaktest
Small nitpick but Iron Crown's ability should be changed to Prism Armor, as it ignores the effects of Mold Breaker. Likewise if you ever make a set using Multiscale or (lol) Clear Body it's better to use Shadow Shield and Full Metal Body instead. These abilities are relatively mediocre by AAA standards so it rarely comes up, but it's good to know.
Smoked me and dropped me from like 2nd to 10th or so with beating me with this team. The hydreigon really just puts in so much work when you were hitting everything that I thought you were no guard.
My point doesnt really stop there - I genuinely don't see why Triage is still legal. Sure, while there hasn't been too much community discussion/outcry for Triage, its unhealthy traits are still there and are pretty obvious. The only arguments I've really heard from the DNB side is that Triage is kept in check by Azelf (which is partially true btw, since kommo-o can beat Azelf 1v1) or that it gets walled by x niche(r) mon. The latter argument is flawed since I could argue that Kyogre should be freed using that argument since it is walled by Hoodra, which is really extreme and something that I will not advocate for.