Pet Mod Alternatium EX - PMPL

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Is Galarian Mr. Mime able to use Eviolite? I made mine on the assumption that it is, but if it shouldn’t be, I’ll change it. Thanks for clarifying.

Anyway, mimes:

:mr mime:
Name: Mr. Mime-Classic
Type: Psychic
Stats: HP 45 | Atk 40 | Def 55 | SpA 105 | SpD 115 | Spe 100 | Total 460
Ability: Rattled / Screen Cleaner / Neuroforce
Added Moves: Weather Ball, Terrain Pulse, Aura Sphere, Psych Up (BDSP TM; not sure if it has this outside of there so it’s here to be safe)
Removed Moves: All Fairy-type moves, all Dark-type moves, Encore, Toxic, Icy Wind
What Makes It Different: Reasonably fast and strong Special attacker with wide variety of coverage moves and Abilities that give it more versatility (Rattled pairs well with Weakness Policy if you can survive an SE hit, Screen Cleaner drops Light Screen/Aurora Veil on switch-in so it can’t be blocked by those, and Neuroforce makes its many coverage moves more threatening). Held back mostly by poor bulk, but also by a lack of good boosting moves or opportunities to set up due to its bulk.

:mr mime-galar:
NOTE: This Pokémon is compatible with Eviolite.
Name: Mr. Mime-Blue
Type: Ice/Fighting
Stats: HP 75 | Atk 40 | Def 70 | SpA 65 | SpD 95 | Spe 115 | Total 460
Ability: Filter / Screen Master (Screen-type moves (ie. Reflect, Light Screen, Safeguard, Aurora Veil) last 2 additional turns when set by this Pokémon. Does not stack with Light Clay.) / Ice Body
Added Moves: Vacuum Wave, Aura Sphere, Circle Throw, Detect, Aurora Veil, Slack Off, Wish, Teleport
Removed Moves: All Psychic-type moves except Calm Mind, Nasty Plot
What Makes It Different: Bulky supporter with Eviolite to boost its defenses and several support moves, plus Ice Scales for pure Special walling. Held back by its several weaknesses, low offenses and reliance on Eviolite to be bulky.

EDITS:
Mr. Mime now has greater Special stats and Speed to be better at sweeping & taking SE Special hits to trigger Rattled, plus Aura Sphere over Flash Cannon to smash rocks without also covering Fairy.
Mr. Mime-Galar now has Aura Sphere over Focus Blast, gets Wish & Teleport for added support, Circle Throw to force switches onto hazards, and keeps Calm Mind so it could boost its Special Attack if you wanted to. Also has a bit more HP & Special Defense, to tank better, and less Special Attack, since I’m worried this guy could be too strong at 75.
 
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New Pokémon Name: Mr. Mime
Stat Changes: 75/85/75/93/72/103 | 503
Typing Changes:
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Ability Changes: Sticky Hold / Frisk | Magician
Movepool Changes (If Any):
- All attacking Psychic moves, Nasty Plot
+ Earth Power, Earthquake, Moonblast, U-turn,
What Separates it from Other Forms: Cleaner that don't have much switch ins for its STABs, compatible with Scarf and Specs.

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New Pokémon Name: Mr. Mime-Galar - can't use eviolite
Stat Changes: 82/105/85/50/110/82 | 514
Typing Changes:
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Ability Changes: Haunting Spirit/ Infiltrator | Stall
Pokemon lose 1/8 of their health when they switch(either by an attack, Teleport or directly) out in front of user.
Movepool Changes (If Any):
- All physical and special Ice, Psychic moves
+ Knock Off, Dark Pulse, Parting Shot, Poison Jab, Shadow Sneak, Sucker Punch, Pursuit, Taunt
What Separates it from Other Forms: Spinner that scares out Ghost type(and also a ghost switchin and trapper with Pursuit).

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New Pokémon Name: Stunfisk
Stat Changes: 84/109/88/90/70/75 | 513
Typing Changes:
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Ability Changes: Unaware
Movepool Changes (If Any):
+ Shore Up
What Separates it from Other Forms: Unaware wall with stealth rock and twave ultility.

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New Pokémon Name: Stunfisk-galar
Stat Changes: 92/110/89/62/72/96 | 531
Typing Changes:
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Ability Changes: Intimidate
Movepool Changes (If Any):
- Stealth Rock
+ Defog, Flip Turn, Spikes, Taunt, Aqua Tail
Snap Trap | Water | Physical | 100 bp | 75% accuracy | 5 pp(8 max) | Traps and damages the target for 4-5 turns
What Separates it from Other Forms: Literally Landorus-T, can pivot, great speed tier, hazard control capability, useful attack stat.
 
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:Swsh/Mr. Mime:
New Pokémon Name: Mr. Mime
Stat Changes: 50 / 50 / 90 / 70 / 150 / 110 [BST: 520]
Typing Changes:
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Ability Changes: Simple
Movepool Changes (If Any): - Focus Blast, Mystical Fire
What Separates it from Other Forms: Bulky simple CM/NP stored power sweeper that may have a hard time breaking through steel.

:Swsh/Mr. Mime-galar:[Eviolite-able]
New Pokémon Name: Mr. Cool
Stat Changes: 65 / 75 / 90 / 105 / 80 / 105 [BST: 520]
Typing Changes:
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Ability Changes: Slow Start | Klutz (HA)
Movepool Changes (If Any): + Geomancy, Recover
What Separates it from Other Forms: Haha, Geomancy go brrrrrrr.

:Swsh/Stunfisk:
New Pokémon Name: Stunfisk
Stat Changes: 79 / 46 / 84 / 122 / 87 / 72 [BST: 490]
Typing Changes:
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Ability Changes: Levitate
Movepool Changes (If Any): + Shore Up
What Separates it from Other Forms: Bulky wallbreaker with recovery.

:Swsh/Stunfisk-galar:
New Pokémon Name: Mawdrask
Stat Changes: 149 / 106 / 44 / 72 / 47 / 72 [BST: 490]
Typing Changes:
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Ability Changes: Hyper Cutter
Movepool Changes (If Any): + Aura Fangs, Close Combat
- Muddy Water, Rain Dance, Scald, Surf, Water Gun
Aura Fangs:
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, 85 BP, 16 PP, 100% Accuracy, Bite ✓, Contact ✓, Damages target based on Sp. Def, not Def.
What Separates it from Other Forms: Physical wallbreaker with huge HP stat and usable attack stat, but get walled by flying type, not really, but its STAB is.
 
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:bw/mr-mime:
New Pokémon Name: Mr. Mime
Stat Changes: 70 HP / 60 Atk / 60 Def / 100 SpA / 120 SpD / 90 Spe | 500 BST
Typing Changes: Psychic / Fairy
Ability Changes: Filter / Soundproof | HA: Screen Cleaner*
*Removes terrains and rooms upon switch in in addition to previous effects
Movepool Changes (If Any):
Aura Sphere, Moonblast, Court Change
Focus Blast, Nasty Plot
What Separates it from Other Forms: WIP

:ss/mr-mime-galar: (Eviolite Compatible)
New Pokémon Name: Mr. Mime-Prance
Stat Changes: 75 HP / 95 Atk / 80 Def / 75 SpA / 75 SpD / 110 Spe | 510 BST
Typing Changes: Ice / Fairy
Ability Changes: Technician / Dancer | HA: Screen Cleaner*
*Removes terrains and rooms upon switch in in addition to previous effects
Movepool Changes (If Any):
Draining Kiss, Play Rough, Vacuum Wave, Double Kick, Frost Breath, Slack Off, U-turn
All Psychic type attacking moves
What Separates it from Other Forms: WIP

:ss/stunfisk-galar:
New Pokémon Name: Stunfisk-Trap
Stat Changes: 109 HP / 108 Atk / 97 Def / 66 SpA / 85 SpD / 44 Spe | 497 BST
Typing Changes: Ground / Steel
Ability Changes: Strong Jaw / Poison Point | HA: Gluttony
Movepool Changes (If Any):
Fire Fang, Spiky Shield, Toxic, Spikes, Leech Seed, Toxic Spikes
N/A
Category:
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Type:
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Base Power: 75
Accuracy: 100
PP: 10
Effect(s): Partially traps foe for 4-5 turns. Bite move.
What Separates it from Other Forms: WIP

:bw/stunfisk:
New Pokémon Name: Stunfisk
Stat Changes: 100 HP / 71 Atk / 82 Def / 103 SpA / 104 SpD / 35 Spe | 495 BST
Typing Changes: Ground
Ability Changes: Waterbender* | HA: Water Compaction
*Water type Steely Spirit clone
Movepool Changes (If Any):
Recover, Flip Turn, Liquidation, Pancake Press*
All Electric type moves sans Thunder Wave
Category:
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Type:
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Base Power: 55
Accuracy: 90
PP: 20
Effect(s): Removes Stealth Rock and Spikes from the user's side of the field. 20% chance to paralyze opponent.
What Separates it from Other Forms: WIP
 
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:ss/stunfisk-galar:
New Pokémon Name: Stunfisk-Galar
Stat Changes: 109/91/89/96/94/32 (521)
Typing Changes:
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Ability Changes: Bear Trap / Mimicry (HA)
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Iron Head, Sand Tomb
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Scorching Sands
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Calm Mind, Taunt
Intended Roles: Stealth Rocker, Trapper, Calm Mind Sweeper
What Separates it from Other Forms:

Mimicry: User copies opponent's typing when entering the battle.
Bear Trap: User's partial-trapping moves always last 7 turns.
 
Review Time! Really small slate so really small reviews.

r1dude said:
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New Pokémon Name: Mr. Mime
Stat Changes: 70/80/75/103/72/103 | 503
Typing Changes:
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Ability Changes: Sticky Hold / Frisk | Magician
Movepool Changes (If Any):
- All attacking Psychic moves, Nasty Plot
+ Earth Power, Earthquake, Moonblast, U-turn,
What Separates it from Other Forms: Cleaner that don't have much switch ins for its STABs, compatible with Scarf and Specs.

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New Pokémon Name: Mr. Mime-Galar - can't use eviolite
Stat Changes: 82/95/85/50/110/82 | 504
Typing Changes:
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Ability Changes: Haunting Spirit/ Infiltrator | Stall
Pokemon lose 1/6 of their health when they switch(either by an attack, Teleport or directly) out in front of user.
Movepool Changes (If Any):
- All ice, Psychic moves
+ Knock Off, Dark Pulse, Parting Shot, Poison Jab, Shadow Sneak, Sucker Punch,
What Separates it from Other Forms: Comes in on pivot moves, then comes out.

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New Pokémon Name: Stunfisk
Stat Changes: 104/104/88/90/70/75 | 528
Typing Changes:
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Ability Changes: Unaware
Movepool Changes (If Any):
+ Shore Up
What Separates it from Other Forms: Unaware wall with stealth rock and twave ultility.

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New Pokémon Name: Stunfisk-galar
Stat Changes: 92/107/89/62/72/96 | 528
Typing Changes:
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Ability Changes: Intimidate
Movepool Changes (If Any):
- Stealth Rock
+ Defog, Flip Turn, Spikes, Taunt, Aqua Tail
Snap Trap | Water | Physical | 100 bp | 75% accuracy | 5 pp(8 max) | Traps and damages the target for 4-5 turns
What Separates it from Other Forms: Literally Landorus-T, can pivot, great speed tier, hazard control capability, useful attack stat.
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Council thinks Mr Mime's type coverage is too strong with its current SpA. Requesting u limit that power somewhat by moving a little SpA somewhere else or removing Moonblast or something.

Stunfisk is still too bulky with Unaware. Its outclocking things like Clef and Quag.

Lapzaplerq said:
:Swsh/Mr. Mime:
New Pokémon Name: Mr. Mime
Stat Changes: 50 / 50 / 90 / 70 / 150 / 110 [BST: 520]
Typing Changes:
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Ability Changes: Simple
Movepool Changes (If Any): - Focus Blast, Mystical Fire
What Separates it from Other Forms: Bulky simple CM/NP stored power sweeper that may have a hard time breaking through steel.

:Swsh/Mr. Mime-galar:
New Pokémon Name: Mr. Cool
Stat Changes: 65 / 95 / 70 / 105 / 80 / 105 [BST: 520]
Typing Changes:
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Ability Changes: Slow Start | Klutz (HA)
Movepool Changes (If Any): + Geomancy, Recover
What Separates it from Other Forms: Haha, Geomancy go brrrrrrr.

:Swsh/Stunfisk:
New Pokémon Name: Stunfisk
Stat Changes: 99 / 46 / 84 / 122 / 87 / 92 [BST: 530]
Typing Changes:
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Ability Changes: Levitate
Movepool Changes (If Any): + Shore Up
What Separates it from Other Forms: Bulky wallbreaker with recovery.

:Swsh/Stunfisk-galar:
New Pokémon Name: Mawdrask
Stat Changes: 149 / 146 / 44 / 72 / 47 / 72 [BST: 530]
Typing Changes:
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Ability Changes: Hyper Cutter
Movepool Changes (If Any): + Aura Fangs, Close Combat
- Muddy Water, Rain Dance, Scald, Surf, Water Gun
Aura Fangs:
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, 85 BP, 16 PP, 100% Accuracy, Bite ✓, Contact ✓, Damages target based on Sp. Def, not Def.
What Separates it from Other Forms: Physical wallbreaker with huge attack stat, but get walled by flying type.
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lower Stunfisk's HP by a good bit, as its kinda built like a very strong wallbreaker that can creep quite a few threats atm.

Mawdrask's Attack is simply far too high, it needs lowering. Id also implore people start looking into movepools of their subs, as Stunfisk-Galar has more than enough moves to challenge flying types within its arsenal.


Thats it. The council has noticed however, that quite a few Mr Mime and Mr Mime Galar subs are rather mediocre. Some of them hyper fixate on a funny gimmick instead of trying to be a Pokémon someone would reasonably use. We request that these Pokémon be worked on, because quite frankly, we fail to see how these subs would be competitive in a vote versus the rest of the subs or be competitive in our current metagame. Yall have 60 hours for this one to give yall the whole weekend + some of Monday to fix your subs however it seems needed. Cheerios!

Also finally it should be assumed that Mr. Mime Galar is eviolite compatible so please indicate so if you want to say otherwise.
 
:mr-mime: G-Luke, r1dude, anaconja
:mr-mime-galar: anaconja, G-Luke, r1dude
:stunfisk:anaconja, r1dude, G-Luke
:stunfisk-galar: ViZar, G-Luke, anaconja
 
The Winners

anaconja said:
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New Pokémon Name: Mr. Mime (no eviolite)
Stat Changes: 65 / 65 / 80 / 80 / 130 / 80 | 500 BST
Typing Changes: Normal / Fairy
Ability Changes: Filter / Prankster / Tinted Lens
Movepool Changes (If Any):
+ Hyper Voice, Tri Attack, Moonblast, Slack Off, Spikes, U-Turn
What Separates it from Other Forms: very versatile mon - filter is a bit mediocre on a mon with only 2 weaknesses but prankster allows it to be a good wall or screens setter while tinted lens enables it as a potent wallbreaker and stallbreaker.

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New Pokémon Name: Stunfisk
Stat Changes: 109 / 76 / 99 / 100 / 84 / 32 | 500 BST
Typing Changes: Ground
Ability Changes: Static / Transistor
Movepool Changes (If Any):
+ Scorching Sands, Recover, Volt Switch, Rapid Spin
What Separates it from Other Forms: general use ground wall.
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G-Luke said:
:ss/mr-mime-galar: (Eviolite Compatible)
New Pokémon Name: Mr. Mime-Prance
Stat Changes: 75 HP / 95 Atk / 80 Def / 75 SpA / 75 SpD / 110 Spe | 510 BST
Typing Changes: Ice / Fairy
Ability Changes: Technician / Dancer | HA: Screen Cleaner*
*Removes terrains and rooms upon switch in in addition to previous effects
Movepool Changes (If Any):
Draining Kiss, Play Rough, Vacuum Wave, Double Kick, Frost Breath, Slack Off, U-turn
All Psychic type attacking moves
What Separates it from Other Forms: WIP

:ss/stunfisk-galar:
New Pokémon Name: Stunfisk-Trap
Stat Changes: 109 HP / 108 Atk / 97 Def / 66 SpA / 85 SpD / 44 Spe | 497 BST
Typing Changes: Ground / Steel
Ability Changes: Strong Jaw / Poison Point | HA: Gluttony
Movepool Changes (If Any):
Fire Fang, Spiky Shield, Toxic, Spikes, Leech Seed, Toxic Spikes
N/A
Category:
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Type:
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Base Power: 75
Accuracy: 100
PP: 10
Effect(s): Partially traps foe for 4-5 turns. Bite move.
What Separates it from Other Forms: WIP
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Not gonna lie, while I am glad for alot of the role compression these additions create, I was less than impressed with the level of quality of some submissions that was going on here. I implore users to take reigns of the netagame they are contributing to, so that their subs do not come off as ridiculously overpower nor underpowered. It just leaves a bad tadte in one's mouth and can lead to voters turning up their nose to your subs, which is precisely something we want to avoid here. I once again ask people to take stock of what currently works and carve your subs to fit alongside it! Anyway, here is our glorious slate

:necrozma: :necrozma-ultra: Slate 8: The Light That Burns The Sky :necrozma-dusk-mane: :necrozma-dawn-wings:

:ss/necrozma: :ss/necrozma-ultra: :ss/necrozma-dusk-mane: :ss/necrozma-dawn-wings:

These are all powerful and influential Pokémon, and in most cases exist in a plane far beyond the scope of our mod. Its your job guide these illuminating Pokémon to be acceptable threats in our metagame. Have fun good luck!​
 
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New Pokémon Name: Necrozma
Stat Changes: 97 / 97 / 71 / 97 / 71 / 67 | 500 BST
Typing Changes: Psychic / Rock
Ability Changes: Sturdy / Prism Armor
Movepool Changes (If Any):
Photon Geyser | Psychic | Special | 100 BP | 100% Accuracy | 5 PP | Type changes to user's primary typing. Physical if user's Atk > Sp. Atk. Ignores abilities.
Prismatic Laser | Fire | Special | 100 BP | 100% Accuracy | 5 PP | Type changes to user's primary typing. Physical if user's Atk > Sp. Atk. Removes all positive stat changes from the user.
+ Shell Smash
- Stored Power, Earthquake, Earth Power, Heat Wave
What Separates it from Other Forms: shell smasher. has trouble hitting steel types (besides prismatic laser, which removes all your smash boosts).

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New Pokémon Name: Necrozma-Dusk-Mane
Stat Changes: 67 / 107 / 131 / 47 / 61 / 107 | 520 BST
Typing Changes: Dark / Fighting
Ability Changes: Moxie / Full Metal Body (This Pokemon takes halved damage from Poison-type attacks and poison/toxic damage.) / Prism Armor
Movepool Changes (If Any):
Photon Geyser | Psychic | Special | 100 BP | 100% Accuracy | 5 PP | Type changes to user's primary typing. Physical if user's Atk > Sp. Atk. Ignores abilities.
Prismatic Laser | Fire | Special | 100 BP | 100% Accuracy | 5 PP | Type changes to user's primary typing. Physical if user's Atk > Sp. Atk. Removes all positive stat changes from the user.
Sunsteel Strike | Fighting | Physical | 100 BP | 100% Accuracy | 5 PP | If the target has any stat changes, it is burned.
+ Close Combat, U-Turn, Trick, Zen Headbutt, Play Rough
- Swords Dance, Dragon Dance, all Psychic moves besides Photon Geyser and Rest, Moonlight
What Separates it from Other Forms: we currently dont have any fast fightings so heres one. fast offensive pivot with good support moves.

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New Pokémon Name: Necrozma-Dawn-Wings
Stat Changes: 67 / 67 / 101 / 107 / 131 / 47 | 520 BST
Typing Changes: Ice / Ghost
Ability Changes: No Guard / Shadow Shield (If this Pokemon is at full HP, damage taken from Dark and Ghost attacks are halved.) / Prism Armor
Movepool Changes (If Any):
Photon Geyser | Psychic | Special | 100 BP | 100% Accuracy | 5 PP | Type changes to user's primary typing. Physical if user's Atk > Sp. Atk. Ignores abilities.
Prismatic Laser | Fire | Special | 100 BP | 100% Accuracy | 5 PP | Type changes to user's primary typing. Physical if user's Atk > Sp. Atk. Removes all positive stat changes from the user.
Moongeist Beam | Ghost | Special | 70 BP | 100% Accuracy | 5 PP | +1 Priority. Fails if the target is not attacking.
+ Freeze-Dry, Ice Beam, Blizzard, Aurora Veil, Shadow Ball, Teleport
- all Psychic moves besides Calm Mind, Photon Geyser, Psychic, Rest, and Trick Room, Morning Sun
What Separates it from Other Forms: otr mon. very good coverage.

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New Pokémon Name: Necrozma-Ultra
Stat Changes: 97 / 107 / 61 / 107 / 61 / 107 | 540 BST
Typing Changes: Electric / Dragon
Ability Changes: Levitate / Neuroforce / Prism Armor
Movepool Changes (If Any):
Photon Geyser | Psychic | Special | 100 BP | 100% Accuracy | 5 PP | Type changes to user's primary typing. Physical if user's Atk > Sp. Atk. Ignores abilities.
Prismatic Laser | Fire | Special | 100 BP | 100% Accuracy | 5 PP | Type changes to user's primary typing. Physical if user's Atk > Sp. Atk. Removes all positive stat changes from the user.
+ Dragon Hammer, Dragon Claw, Scale Shot, Draco Meteor, Wild Charge, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Volt Switch, Trick
- all Psychic moves besides Calm Mind, Photon Geyser, and Rest
What Separates it from Other Forms: versatile wallbreaker with either sd scale shot or choiced photon/draco.
 
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Before anything else, I'm sorry if these subs look bad and not having prime numbers, but trust me, I tried my best.
:Swsh/Necrozma:
New Pokémon Name: Necrozma
Stat Changes: 100 / 108 / 72 / 78 / 72 / 110 [BST: 540]
Typing Changes:
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Ability Changes: Prism Armor / Neuroforce | Scattered (HA)
Scattered: Before this Pokemon faints, it will summons Stealth Rock on the both sides of the field.
Movepool Changes (If Any): + Explosion, Final Gambit, Recover, Spikes, Taunt
What Separates it from Other Forms: Suicide lead mon that's guaranteed to set, at the very least, a stealth rock on foe's side, but also on your own side.
Hazard setter
Necrozma @ Leftovers / Normal Gem
Ability: Prism Armor / Scattered
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Photon Geyser
- Explosion / Final Gambit
- Spikes
- Stealth Rock / Recover
:Swsh/Necrozma-dawn-wings:
New Pokémon Name: Nebulunar
Stat Changes: 100 / 68 / 72 / 88 / 72 / 120 [BST: 520]
Typing Changes:
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Ability Changes: Prism Armor / Neuroforce | Gale Wings (HA)
Movepool Changes (If Any): + Aeroblast, Brave Bird, Defog, Dual Wingbeat, Hurricane, Roost, Volt Switch
- Dragon Dance, Earthquake, Earth Power, Moongeist Beam
What Separates it from Other Forms: Basically Talonflame, but better.
Choice Specs
Nebulunar @ Choice Specs
Ability: Neuroforce / Gale Wings
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Photon Geyser
- Aeroblast / Hurricane
- Heat Wave
- Volt Switch

Special setup sweeper
Nebulunar @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Photon Geyser
- Aeroblast / Hurricane
- Calm Mind
- Roost
:Swsh/Necrozma-dusk-mane:
New Pokémon Name: Nebsidian
Stat Changes: 100 / 88 / 122 / 68 / 122 / 20 [BST: 520]
Typing Changes:
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Ability Changes: Prism Armor / Neuroforce | Sand Stream (HA)
Movepool Changes (If Any): + Body Press, Bulk Up, Diamond Storm
- Sunsteel Strike
What Separates it from Other Forms: Basically Tyranitar, but with some trade-offs.
Trick room setter
Nebsidian @ Leftovers
Ability: Prism Armor / Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Photon Geyser
- Diamond Storm
- Body Press / Earthquake / Knock Off
- Trick Room

Weakness policy
Nebsidian @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Prism Armor
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Photon Geyser
- Diamond Storm
- Earthquake / Bulk Up
- Morning Sun / Trick Room
:Swsh/Necrozma-ultra:
New Pokémon Name: Nebisfist
Stat Changes: 100 / 128 / 62 / 128 / 62 / 40 [BST: 520]
Typing Changes:
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Ability Changes: Prism Armor / Neuroforce | Swift Spirit (HA)
Swift Spirit: This Pokemon's Speed is 1.5x, but it can only select the first move it executes.
Movepool Changes (If Any): > Necrozma's movepool <
+ Aura Sphere, Bulk Up, Focus Blast, Mach Punch, Reversal, Superpower, Thunderous Kick, U-turn, Vacuum Wave
- Earth Power, Earthquake, Heat Wave, Rock Slide, Stone Edge, Swords Dance
What Separates it from Other Forms: Wallbreaker that can be either fast by double scarves or slow to be suitable in TR team.
Physical choice scarf
Nebisfist @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Swift Spirit
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Photon Geyser
- Superpower
- Knock Off
- U-turn
* Jolly is there just to outspeed Sinnohchu.

Slow special wallbreaker, AKA Trick room abuser
Necrozma @ Life Orb
Ability: Neuroforce
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe
Quiet Nature
- Photon Geyser
- Aura Sphere / Focus Blast
- Dark Pulse / Heat Wave / Vacuum Wave
- U-turn
 
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:swsh/Necrozma:
New Pokémon Name: Necrozma-Husk
Stat Changes: 89/97/ 73 /97 / 73/ 101 (530)
Typing Changes:
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Ability Changes: Neuroforce/Prism Armor
Movepool Changes (If Any):
(+)Close Combat, Prismatic Strike, Bulk Up, Shadow Ball, Aura Sphere, Teleport
(-)Prismatic Laser, Dragon Dance, Swords Dance
Prismatic Strike | Ghost | Physical | 90 BP | 100% Accuracy | 24 PP | 100% chance to lower the foe's Attack by one stage.
What Separates it from Other Forms: fast Ghost/Fighting. STABs are great coverage and it has above-average speed to take advantage of Neuroforce.
Prismatic Strike cripples physical mons and Bulk Up gives you physical setup that lets you sweep things if you choose to run it.
Special sets exist but aren't recommended in favor of Physical sets.
you can go slightly more defensive with Prism Armor, Rocks, Morning Sun and Teleport but it is also not recommended due to relatively poor defenses.
 
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:ss/necrozma:
New Pokémon Name: Necrozma
Stat Changes: 113/101/73/101/73/89 (550)
Typing Changes:
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Ability Changes: Prism Armor
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Intended Roles: Swords Dance Sweeper, Calm Mind Sweeper
What Separates it from Other Forms:
Physical Sweeper
Necrozma @ Leftovers
Ability: Prism Armor
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Photon Geyser
- Earthquake
- Knock Off
- Swords Dance / Dragon Dance

Special Sweeper
Necrozma @ Leftovers
Ability: Prism Armor
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Photon Geyser
- Earth Power
- Heat Wave
- Calm Mind

Stored Power Sweeper
Necrozma @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Prism Armor
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Stored Power
- Heat Wave
- Calm Mind
- Autotomize
Prism Armor - This Pokemon takes 2/3 damage from Dark-, Fairy- and Ghost-moves.

Name: Photon Geyser
Power: 90
Accuracy: 100%
PP: 5
Category:
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Type:
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Effect: Goes off higher attacking stat. Does 1.2x damage in Psychic Terrain.
Priority: 0
Flags: Protect, Mirror
Target: Normal


:ss/necrozma-dusk-mane:
New Pokémon Name: Necrozma-Dusk-Mane
Stat Changes: 89/107/89/79/107/79 (550)
Typing Changes:
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Ability Changes: Full Metal Body / Drought (HA)
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Fire Fang, Crunch, Fire Lash, Heavy Slam, Close Combat, Heat Crash
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Overheat
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Sunny Day, Noble Roar, Howl, Roar, Metal Sound
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Psychic Fangs, Psycho Cut, Shadow Claw
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Dark Pulse, Dragon Pulse, Expanding Force, Photon Geyser, Psychic, Psyshock, Stored Power, Charge Beam, Confusion, Future Sight, Prismatic Laser, Shock Wave
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Calm Mind, Dragon Dance, Light Screen, Moonlight, Reflect, Trick Room, Ally Switch, Cosmic Power, Gravity, Imprison, Telekinesis
Intended Roles: Specially Defensive Tank, Stealth Rocker, Swords Dance Attacker
What Separates it from Other Forms:
Specially Defensive
Necrozma-Dusk-Mane @ Leftovers
Ability: Full Metal Body / Drought
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Sunsteel Strike / Iron Head
- Knock Off
- Stealth Rock
- Morning Sun

Swords Dance
Necrozma-Dusk-Mane @ Leftovers
Ability: Drought
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Sunsteel Strike
- Fire Lash / Heat Crash
- Knock Off / Close Combat
- Swords Dance
Full Metal Body - Prevents stat drops from opponents and heals 1/8 when it activates.

Name: Sunsteel Strike
Power: 100
Accuracy: 90%
PP: 8
Category:
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Type:
Steel.png

Effect: Super effective on Fire.
Priority: 0
Flags: Contact, Protect, Mirror
Target: Normal


:ss/necrozma-dawn-wings:
New Pokémon Name: Necrozma-Dawn-Wings
Stat Changes: 79/103/71/113/89/109 (550)
Typing Changes:
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Ability Changes: Bad Dreams / Dark Aura (HA)
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Poltergeist, Sucker Punch, Pursuit, Power Trip, Spirit Shackle
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Hex, Moonblast, Ice Beam, Night Daze, Dream Eater
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Defog, Roost, Tailwind, Hypnosis, Yawn, Taunt
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Brick Break, Earthquake, Iron Head, Outrage, Psychic Fangs, Psycho Cut, Rock Blast, Rock Slide, Shadow Claw, Stone Edge, X-Scissor, Breaking Swipe, Smart Strike
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Dragon Pulse, Earth Power, Expanding Force, Heat Wave, Flash Cannon, Hyper Voice, Photon Geyser, Power Gem, Psychic, Psyshock, Signal Beam, Stored Power, Confusion, Future Sight, Mirror Shot, Prismatic Laser, Shock Wave
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Dragon Dance, Morning Sun, Reflect, Stealth Rock, Swords Dance, Trick Room, Ally Switch, Cosmic Power, Gravity, Imprison, Telekinesis
Intended Roles: Special Wallbreaker, Stallbreaker
What Separates it from Other Forms:
Life Orb Wallbreaker
Necrozma-Dawn-Wings @ Life Orb
Ability: Dark Aura
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moongeist Beam
- Dark Pulse
- Moonblast
- Roost

Sleeper
Necrozma-Dawn-Wings @ Leftovers
Ability: Bad Dreams
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moongeist Beam
- Moonblast
- Roost / Spirit Shackle
- Hypnosis / Yawn

Choice Band
Necrozma-Dawn-Wings @ Choice Band
Ability: Dark Aura
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Poltergeist
- Spirit Shackle
- Pursuit
- Sucker Punch
Name: Moongeist Beam
Power: 100
Accuracy: 85%
PP: 5
Category:
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Type:
Ghost.png

Effect: 10% chance to sleep the target. Inflicts nightmare on sleeping Pokemon.
Priority: 0
Flags: Protect, Mirror
Target: Normal


:ss/necrozma-ultra:
New Pokémon Name: Necrozma-Ultra
Stat Changes: 73/113/83/97/83/101 (550)
Typing Changes:
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Ability Changes: Neuroforce
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Superpower, Steel Wing, Dragon Claw
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Draco Meteor, Flamethrower
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Recover
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Earthquake, Iron Head, Psychic Fangs, Rock Slide, Sunsteel Strike, X-Scissor, Bulldoze, Gyro Ball
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Dark Pulse, Earth Power, Expanding Force, Flash Cannon, Heat Wave, Photon Geyser, Psychic, Psyshock, Stored Power, Charge Beam, Confusion, Future Sight, Shock Wave
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Calm Mind, Light Screen, Reflect, Moonlight, Morning Sun, Trick Room
Intended Roles: Physical Sweeper, Choice Specs Breaker
What Separates it from Other Forms:
Physical Sweeper
Necrozma-Ultra @ Leftovers
Ability: Neuroforce
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Claw / Outrage
- Superpower
- Smart Strike
- Swords Dance / Dragon Dance

Choice Specs
Necrozma-Ultra @ Choice Specs
Ability: Neuroforce
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Draco Meteor
- Prismatic Laser
- Flamethrower
- Hidden Power [Steel]
Neuroforce - This Pokemon does 1.1x damage on neutral targets.

Name: Prismatic Laser
Power: 80
Accuracy: 100%
PP: 10
Category:
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Type:
Dragon.png

Effect: This move ignores type based interactions. (Note: Dragon-types loose STAB)
Priority: 0
Flags: Protect, Mirror
Target: Normal
 
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edit: reworked the abilities, fixed stat errors, gave morning sun back to dusk mane and axed scale shot from nemesis

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Pokémon Name: Necrozma-Remnant
Stats: 109 HP / 101 Atk / 73 Def / 101 SpA / 73 SpD / 83 Spe / 540 BST
Typing:
Psychic.png

Abilities: Prism Armor
Movepool Changes:
+ Drain Punch, Fire Blast, Flamethrower, Focus Blast, Moonblast, Recover
- Prismatic Laser
What Separates it from Other Forms: Some small tweaks here, made its bulk and offenses worse in exchange for slightly more Speed along with better coverage. It now has ways to hit Dark types like Shifu and Calyrex-Midnight without resorting to X-Scissor while Fire Blast hits Steels better than Heat Wave. Also has 16 PP recovery, which makes CM a bit more viable. Otherwise it does the same things it does in standard; sweep with DD/Meteor Beam or set up rocks.

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Pokémon Name: Necrozma-Dusk Mane
Stats: 73 HP / 113 Atk / 97 Def / 101 SpA / 67 SpD / 89 Spe / 540 BST
Typing:
Steel.png
Fire.png

Abilities: Helios
On switch-in, this Pokemon lowers the Attack of adjacent opposing Pokemon by 1 stage. Pokemon behind a substitute are immune. This ability cannot be ignored or suppressed by other abilities.
Movepool Changes:
+ Doom Desire, Eruption, Fire Blast, Fire Lash, Flame Charge, Flamethrower, Flare Blitz, Lava Plume, Overheat
- Calm Mind, Dragon Dance, Knock Off, Meteor Beam, Moonlight, Prismatic Laser, Rock Polish, Swords Dance
Type:
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Category:
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Base Power: 110
Accuracy: 95
PP: 5
Effect: Has a 30% chance to burn the target. The target thaws out if it is frozen.
Priority: 0
Flags: Contact, Mirror, Protect
What Separates it from Other Forms: Wanted to do a Fire/Steel and decided to do smth kinda weird to have it stand out more against the meta's preexisting Steels. This is a decently fast physical tank with solid mixed offenses, the caveat being its terrible SpD. 89 Speed outpaces about half of the meta, making it a good breaker and rock setter. On the defensive side; its typing, physical bulk, semi-reliable recovery in Morning Sun and the Intimidate-variant Helios allows it to check mons like Salazzle-Ruler and Vikavolt. Fire Lash's Def drops can force out foes to help it set rocks or use Doom Desire to make further progress. Sunsteel Strike is just physical Steel Steam Eruption, it does numbers and spreads burns.

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Pokémon Name: Necrozma-Dawn Wings
Stats: 73 HP / 97 Atk / 89 Def / 101 SpA / 113 SpD / 67 Spe / 540 BST
Typing:
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Electric.png

Abilities: Selene
This Pokemon is not affected by the secondary effect of another Pokemon's attack. This ability cannot be ignored or suppressed by other abilities.
Movepool Changes:
+ Defog, Foul Play, Parabolic Charge, Roost, Snarl, Sucker Punch, Taunt, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Volt Switch, Wild Charge
- Brick Break, Calm Mind, Dragon Dance, Earth Power, Earthquake, Gyro Ball, Heat Wave, Iron Head, Meteor Beam, Prismatic Laser, Rock Polish, Smart Strike, Stealth Rock, X-Scissor
Type:
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Category:
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Base Power: 70
Accuracy: 100
PP: 15
Effect: If this move is successful, there is a 30% chance the effect of Yawn begins on the target, even if it has a substitute.
Priority: 0
Flags: Mirror, Protect
What Separates it from Other Forms: Take two on a bulky Dark/Elec, checking some of the Ghosts and Oricorios. Good bulk and Roost means it has a good amount of longevity, while Selene prevents moves like Scald and Scorching Sands from proccing their effects. Can Defog, deny hazards with Taunt and keep offensive threats in check with Foul Play, Snarl and the reworked Moongeist Beam.

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Pokémon Name: Necrozma-Nemesis
Stats: 83 HP / 101 Atk / 73 Def / 101 SpA / 73 SpD / 109 Spe / 540 BST
Typing:
Fire.png
Dark.png

Abilities: Nebula
If this Pokemon has any stat changes that are below 0, they are reset when another Pokemon faints.
Movepool Changes (from base Necrozma's movepool):
+ Crunch, Fire Blast, Flamethrower, Flare Blitz, Overheat, Sucker Punch
- Calm Mind, Dragon Dance, Earthquake, Knock Off, Moonlight, Morning Sun, Rock Polish, Stealth Rock
Type:
Fire.png

Category:
Special.png

Base Power: 110
Accuracy: -
PP: 5
Effect: Lowers the user's Defense and Special Defense by 1 stage. This move does not check accuracy.
Priority: 0
Flags: Mirror, Protect
What Separates it from Other Forms: Here's a fearsome mixed attacker with high Speed, potent STABs and setup options in Meteor Beam and SD; hindered by its average bulk, common weaknesses and vulnerability to hazards. Nebula will eliminate the stat drops from Overheat or the reworked Prismatic Laser every time a mon is KO’d to give it more staying power.
 
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:Swsh/Necrozma-dusk-mane:
New Pokémon Name: Necrozma-DN
Stat Changes: 89 / 113 / 77 / 59 / 77 / 83 [BST: 498]
Typing Changes:
Psychic.png
Steel.png

Ability Changes: Prism Armor
Movepool Changes (If Any): +Sunraze Strike, -Dragon Dance, Photon Geyser
Type:
Psychic.png

Category:
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Base Power: 100
Accuracy: 100
PP: 5
Effect: Ignores the target’s type when calculating damage.
Priority: 0
Flags: Contact, Mirror, Protect
What Separates it from Other Forms: Dusk Mane is cool. Bit too optimized for this meta though, so I’ve turned it into a not-so-bulky attacker with tons of defensive utility to make up for its stat-based pitfalls. Swords Dance sets can go pretty nutty as long as you have a way to hit the opponent’s dedicated physical walls, and Sunraze Strike’s guaranteed perfect neutral coverage is an awesome tool to have.

:Swsh/Necrozma-dawn-wings:
New Pokémon Name: Necrozma-Dawn
Stat Changes: 89 / 61 / 89 / 97 / 89 / 79 [BST: 504]
Typing Changes:
Psychic.png
Fire.png

Ability Changes: Flash Fire
Movepool Changes (If Any): +Fire Blast, Flamethrower, Nasty Plot, -Earth Power
What Separates it from Other Forms: Where are the traditional Psychics?? Bulky plot sweeper with great STABs and an interesting coverage option in Moongeist Beam, providing the powerful Special Psychic the tier has been lacking for quite a while. Doubles as a Decidueye-A check.
 
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:ss/necrozma:
New Pokémon Name: Necrozma
Stat Changes: 97 HP / 107 Atk / 101 Def / 127 SpA / 89 SpD / 79 Spe [BST: 600]
Typing Changes:
Psychic.png

Ability Changes: Prism Armor
Movepool Changes (If Any):
Earth Power, Heat Wave, Meteor Beam, Knock Off, Dragon Dance, Photon Geyser, Dragon Pulse, Signal Beam, Expanding Force, Iron Head, Ally Switch, Psychic Fangs, Magnet Rise
Name: Prismatic Laser
Category:
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Type:
Psychic.png

Base Power: 90
Accuracy: 100
PP: 10
Effect(s): Lowers the defense of the target if they resist the move. Immunities are not affected.
What Separates it from Other Forms: Necrozma with it's beefy stat total is in a slight predicament, it lacks a lot of its modern day tools. But fret not, Necrozma is bulky enough and strong enough to make do. It eats up alot of hits and while it's special coverage is scarce, Psychic + Hidden Power [Fighting] + Dark Pulse currently hits all of the tier neutrally. SD sets on the other hand function with Earthquake and X-Scissor to punch holes in common switchins.


:ss/necrozma-dusk-mane:
New Pokémon Name: Necrozma-Lionheart
Stat Changes: 97 HP / 109 Atk / 79 Def / 89 SpA / 103 SpD / 67 Spe [BST: 534]
Typing Changes:
Steel.png
Fire.png

Ability Changes: Prism Armor
Movepool Changes (If Any):
Lava Plume, Flare Blitz, Will O Wisp, Heat Crash, Fire Blast, Flamethrower
Moonlight, Morning Sun, Dragon Dance, Photon Geyser, Dragon Pulse, Signal Beam, Expanding Force, Iron Head, Psychic Fangs, Prismatic Laser, Earth Power
Name: Sunsteel Strike
Category:
Physical.png

Type:
Steel.png

Base Power: 75
Accuracy: 100
PP: 15
Effect(s): Heals user by 50% of damage dealt.
What Separates it from Other Forms: Necrozma-Lionheart plays somewhat similiar to Heatran in standard, but less obnoxious trapping more standard attacking. Steel/Fire adds alot of solid defensive utility while still bringing offensive pressure.

:ss/necrozma-dawn-wings:
New Pokémon Name: Necrozma-Batwing
Stat Changes: 97 HP / 67 Atk / 83 Def / 113 SpA / 73 SpD / 101 Spe [BST: 534]
Typing Changes:
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Ghost.png

Ability Changes: Prism Armor
Movepool Changes (If Any):
Taunt, Foul Play, Will O Wisp, Defog, Hex, Shadow Ball, Teleport, Roost, Snarl, Work Up
Morning Sun, Calm Mind, Swords Dance, Dragon Dance, Photon Geyser, Dragon Pulse, Signal Beam, Heat Wave, Expanding Force, Iron Head, Psychic Fangs, Prismatic Laser, Earthquake
Name: Moongeist Beam
Category:
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Type:
Ghost.png

Base Power: 60
Accuracy: 100
PP: 20
Effect(s): Swaps user out. If moved last suppresses target's ability (like Core Enforcer, not like Analytic)
What Separates it from Other Forms: Necrozma-Batwing is somewhat fast and can exert strong offensive pressure thanks to its strong STAB combo. It unfortunately hardwalled by the likes of most Dark types in the tier, but it still can do a bit of work against them with hazard support. It also has a funny pivot STAB with an even funnier effect if you somehow manage to trigger it.
 
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:sm/necrozma:
New Pokémon Name: Necrozma
Stat Changes: 92 / 85 / 85 / 85 / 85 / 85 | 517
Typing Changes: Dark
Ability Changes: Guts
Movepool Changes (If Any):
+ Sucker Punch,
- Photon Geyser, Dragon Dance, Earthquake
What Separates it from Other Forms: Guts breaker(aka fck scald) with priority sucker punch.
 
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Commentary time! In order to avoid the Mr Mime debacle from ever happening again, council has decided to open themselves to reviewing underperforming subs as well as busted too powerful ones, so we can ensure voters can have the highest quality pool to choose from when its voting time.

Lapzaplerq said:
Before anything else, I'm sorry if these subs look bad and not having prime numbers, but trust me, I tried my best.
:Swsh/Necrozma:
New Pokémon Name: Necrozma
Stat Changes: 100 / 108 / 72 / 108 / 72 / 80 [BST: 540]
Typing Changes:
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Normal.png

Ability Changes: Prism Armor / Neuroforce | Scattered (HA)
Scattered: Before this Pokemon faints, it will summons Stealth Rock on the both sides of the field.
Movepool Changes (If Any): + Explosion, Recover, Spikes
What Separates it from Other Forms: Setup sweeper and/or suicide lead mon that's guaranteed to set, at the very least, a stealth rock on foe's side, but also on your own side.
Setup sweeper
Necrozma @ Leftovers / Life Orb
Ability: Prism Armor / Neuroforce
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest Nature
- Photon Geyser
- Heat Wave / Earth Power / Hyper Voice
- Calm Mind
- Recover

Hazard setter
Necrozma @ Leftovers
Ability: Prism Armor / Scattered
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Photon Geyser
- Explosion
- Spikes
- Stealth Rock / Recover
:Swsh/Necrozma-dawn-wings:
New Pokémon Name: Nebulunar
Stat Changes: 100 / 88 / 62 / 88 / 62 / 120 [BST: 520]
Typing Changes:
Psychic.png
Flying.png

Ability Changes: Prism Armor / Neuroforce | Gale Wings (HA)
Movepool Changes (If Any): + Aeroblast, Brave Bird, Defog, Dual Wingbeat, Hurricane, Roost
- Calm Mind, Dragon Dance, Earthquake, Earth Power, Moongeist Beam, Swords Dance
Aeroblast: Everything are the same + has 1/4 recoil.
What Separates it from Other Forms: Basically Talonflame, but better.
Physical priority user
Nebulunar @ Life Orb
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Photon Geyser
- Brave Bird
- Knock Off / Stealth Rock
- Roost

Special priority user
Nebulunar @ Life Orb
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Photon Geyser
- Aeroblast
- Heat Wave / Stealth Rock
- Roost
:Swsh/Necrozma-dusk-mane:
New Pokémon Name: Nebsidian
Stat Changes: 100 / 98 / 102 / 98 / 102 / 20 [BST: 520]
Typing Changes:
Psychic.png
Rock.png

Ability Changes: Prism Armor / Neuroforce | Sand Stream (HA)
Movepool Changes (If Any): + Body Press, Bulk Up, Diamond Storm
- Earth Power, Earthquake, Sunsteel Strike
What Separates it from Other Forms: Basically Tyranitar, but with some trade-offs.
Meteor beamer
Nebsidian @ Power Herb
Ability: Prism Armor / Neuroforce
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest Nature
- Photon Geyser
- Meteor Beam
- Heat Wave
- Morning Sun

Physical wallbreaker
Nebsidian @ Leftovers
Ability: Neuroforce
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Photon Geyser
- Diamond Storm / Bulk Up
- Body Press / Knock Off
- Morning Sun

Sand setter
Nebsidian @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Photon Geyser
- Diamond Storm
- Body Press / Knock Off
- Stealth Rock

Weakness policy
Nebsidian @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Prism Armor
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Photon Geyser
- Diamond Storm
- Knock Off / Bulk Up
- Morning Sun
:Swsh/Necrozma-ultra:
New Pokémon Name: Nebisfist
Stat Changes: 100 / 128 / 62 / 128 / 62 / 40 [BST: 520]
Typing Changes:
Psychic.png
Fighting.png

Ability Changes: Prism Armor / Neuroforce | Swift Spirit (HA)
Swift Spirit: This Pokemon's Speed is 1.5x, but it can only select the first move it executes.
Movepool Changes (If Any): > Necrozma's movepool <
+ Aura Sphere, Bulk Up, Focus Blast, Mach Punch, Reversal, Superpower, Thunderous Kick, Vacuum Wave
- Earth Power, Earthquake, Heat Wave, Rock Slide, Stone Edge, Swords Dance
What Separates it from Other Forms: Wallbreaker that can be either fast by double scarves or slow to be suitable in TR team.
Physical choice scarf
Nebisfist @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Swift Spirit
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Photon Geyser
- Superpower
- Knock Off
- Iron Head
* Jolly is there just to outspeed Sinnohchu.

Slow special wallbreaker
Necrozma @ Life Orb
Ability: Neuroforce
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest Nature
- Photon Geyser
- Aura Sphere / Focus Blast
- Dark Pulse
- Heat Wave
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:necrozma: Right now as a CM sweeper it seems to face alot of competition from the other Mimes rn, who are both really good at what they do and at least one shares a type. Imo I think focusing on the suicide lead role is a better approach to make your sub more distinct.

:necrozma-dawn-wings: I am not sure if you know how Talonflame works post Gale Wings nerf, but Talonflame doesn't use Gale Wings post Gale Wings nerf. Life Orb also seems like a bad idea with Gale Wings post Gale Wings nerf. Any set focusing on recoil just won't be used. Anywho, I think removing CM was a bad idea, I would keep it to utilize with Hurricane. Maybe put some of that rather useless Attack into bulk as its really frail rn.

:necrozma-dusk-mane: The idea sounds good on paper, but none of the suggested sets sound like good ideas due to how slow and horrid a defensive typing Rock/Psychic is. Its most likely not gonna ever be the offensive wallbreaker you think it is going to be, and most likely will attempt to be a defensive tank with BP to keep up. I suggest better stat allocation to help with it's rather bad typing and poor movepool options.

:necrozma-ultra: I don't really know where to go with this other than invest in a reliable offensive pivot move, Psychic/Fighting is a horrible typing to be forced to be choice locked into.

Superior Serperior said:
:swsh/Necrozma:
New Pokémon Name: Necrozma-Husk
Stat Changes: 103/97/ 71 /97 / 71/ 101 (540)
Typing Changes:
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Ghost.png

Ability Changes: Neuroforce/Prism Armor
Movepool Changes (If Any):
(+)Close Combat, Prismatic Strike, Bulk Up, Shadow Ball, Aura Sphere, Teleport
(-)Prismatic Laser, Dragon Dance, Swords Dance
Prismatic Strike | Ghost | Physical | 90 BP | 100% Accuracy | 24 PP | 100% chance to lower the foe's Attack by one stage.
What Separates it from Other Forms: fast Ghost/Fighting. STABs are great coverage and it has above-average speed to take advantage of Neuroforce.
Prismatic Strike cripples physical mons and Bulk Up gives you physical setup that lets you sweep things if you choose to run it.
Special sets exist but aren't recommended in favor of Physical sets.
you can go slightly more defensive with Prism Armor, Rocks, Morning Sun and Teleport but it is also not recommended due to relatively poor defenses.
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I really doubt this thing wants to use Neuroforce, Prism Armor is largely the superior ability especially when paired up with Weakness Policy. On that end, we request that the HP is lowered so said Weakness Policy sets do not wreak havoc on the tier.

ViZar said:
:ss/necrozma:
New Pokémon Name: Necrozma
Stat Changes: 113/101/79/101/79/107 (580)
Typing Changes:
Psychic.png

Ability Changes: Prism Armor
-
Intended Roles: Swords Dance Sweeper, Calm Mind Sweeper
What Separates it from Other Forms:
Physical Sweeper
Necrozma @ Leftovers
Ability: Prism Armor
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Photon Geyser
- Earthquake
- Knock Off
- Swords Dance / Dragon Dance

Special Sweeper
Necrozma @ Leftovers
Ability: Prism Armor
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Photon Geyser
- Earth Power
- Heat Wave
- Calm Mind

Stored Power Sweeper
Necrozma @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Prism Armor
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Stored Power
- Heat Wave
- Heat Wave
- Autotomize
Prism Armor - This Pokemon takes 2/3 damage from Dark-, Fairy- and Ghost-moves.

Name: Photon Geyser
Power: 90
Accuracy: 100%
PP: 5
Category:
Special.png

Type:
Psychic.png

Effect: Goes off higher attacking stat. Does 1.2x damage in Psychic Terrain.
Priority: 0
Flags: Protect, Mirror
Target: Normal


:ss/necrozma-dusk-mane:
New Pokémon Name: Necrozma-Dusk-Mane
Stat Changes: 97/109/89/79/127/79 (580)
Typing Changes:
Steel.png

Ability Changes: Full Metal Body / Drought (HA)
Physical.png
Fire Fang, Crunch, Fire Lash, Heavy Slam, Close Combat, Heat Crash
Special.png
Overheat
Status.png
Sunny Day, Noble Roar, Howl, Roar, Metal Sound
Physical.png
Psychic Fangs, Psycho Cut, Shadow Claw
Special.png
Dark Pulse, Dragon Pulse, Expanding Force, Photon Geyser, Psychic, Psyshock, Stored Power, Charge Beam, Confusion, Future Sight, Prismatic Laser, Shock Wave
Status.png
Calm Mind, Dragon Dance, Light Screen, Moonlight, Reflect, Trick Room, Ally Switch, Cosmic Power, Gravity, Imprison, Telekinesis
Intended Roles: Specially Defensive Tank, Stealth Rocker, Swords Dance Attacker
What Separates it from Other Forms:
Specially Defensive
Necrozma-Dusk-Mane @ Leftovers
Ability: Full Metal Body / Drought
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Sunsteel Strike / Iron Head
- Knock Off
- Stealth Rock
- Morning Sun

Swords Dance
Necrozma-Dusk-Mane @ Leftovers
Ability: Drought
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Sunsteel Strike
- Fire Lash / Heat Crash
- Knock Off / Close Combat
- Swords Dance
Full Metal Body - Prevents stat drops from opponents and heals 1/8 when it activates.

Name: Sunsteel Strike
Power: 100
Accuracy: 90%
PP: 8
Category:
Physical.png

Type:
Steel.png

Effect: Super effective on Fire.
Priority: 0
Flags: Contact, Protect, Mirror
Target: Normal


:ss/necrozma-dawn-wings:
New Pokémon Name: Necrozma-Dawn-Wings
Stat Changes: 79/103/79/113/97/109 (566)
Typing Changes:
Ghost.png

Ability Changes: Bad Dreams / Dark Aura (HA)
Physical.png
Poltergeist, Sucker Punch, Pursuit, Power Trip, Spirit Shackle
Special.png
Hex, Moonblast, Ice Beam, Night Daze, Dream Eater
Status.png
Defog, Roost, Tailwind, Hypnosis, Yawn, Taunt
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Brick Break, Earthquake, Iron Head, Outrage, Psychic Fangs, Psycho Cut, Rock Blast, Rock Slide, Shadow Claw, Stone Edge, X-Scissor, Breaking Swipe, Smart Strike
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Dragon Pulse, Earth Power, Expanding Force, Heat Wave, Flash Cannon, Hyper Voice, Photon Geyser, Power Gem, Psychic, Psyshock, Signal Beam, Stored Power, Confusion, Future Sight, Mirror Shot, Prismatic Laser, Shock Wave
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Dragon Dance, Morning Sun, Reflect, Stealth Rock, Swords Dance, Trick Room, Ally Switch, Cosmic Power, Gravity, Imprison, Telekinesis
Intended Roles: Special Wallbreaker, Stallbreaker
What Separates it from Other Forms:
Life Orb Wallbreaker
Necrozma-Dawn-Wings @ Life Orb
Ability: Dark Aura
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moongeist Beam
- Dark Pulse
- Moonblast
- Roost

Sleeper
Necrozma-Dawn-Wings @ Leftovers
Ability: Bad Dreams
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moongeist Beam
- Moonblast
- Roost / Spirit Shackle
- Hypnosis / Yawn

Choice Band
Necrozma-Dawn-Wings @ Choice Band
Ability: Dark Aura
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Poltergeist
- Spirit Shackle
- Pursuit
- Sucker Punch
Name: Moongeist Beam
Power: 100
Accuracy: 85%
PP: 5
Category:
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Type:
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Effect: 10% chance to sleep the target. Inflicts nightmare on sleeping Pokemon.
Priority: 0
Flags: Protect, Mirror
Target: Normal


:ss/necrozma-ultra:
New Pokémon Name: Necrozma-Ultra
Stat Changes: 83/127/83/97/89/101 (580)
Typing Changes:
Dragon.png

Ability Changes: Neuroforce
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Superpower, Steel Wing, Dragon Claw
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Draco Meteor, Flamethrower
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Recover
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Earthquake, Iron Head, Psychic Fangs, Rock Slide, Sunsteel Strike, X-Scissor, Bulldoze, Gyro Ball
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Dark Pulse, Earth Power, Expanding Force, Flash Cannon, Heat Wave, Photon Geyser, Psychic, Psyshock, Stored Power, Charge Beam, Confusion, Future Sight, Shock Wave
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Calm Mind, Light Screen, Reflect, Moonlight, Morning Sun, Trick Room
Intended Roles: Physical Sweeper, Choice Specs Breaker
What Separates it from Other Forms:
Physical Sweeper
Necrozma-Ultra @ Leftovers
Ability: Neuroforce
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Claw / Outrage
- Superpower
- Smart Strike
- Swords Dance / Dragon Dance

Choice Specs
Necrozma-Ultra @ Choice Specs
Ability: Neuroforce
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Draco Meteor
- Prismatic Laser
- Flamethrower
- Hidden Power [Steel]
Neuroforce - This Pokemon does 1.1x damage on neutral targets.

Name: Prismatic Laser
Power: 90
Accuracy: 100%
PP: 10
Category:
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Type:
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Effect: This move ignores type based interactions. (Note: Dragon-types keep STAB)
Priority: 0
Flags: Protect, Mirror
Target: Normal
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:necrozma: Lower it's speed stat by a good bit. Mono Psychic does suck so the WP isn't as threatening as above but as an offensive mon Necro goes really hard thanks to having oodles and oodles of coverage.

:necrozma-dusk-mane: Far too bulky, especially considering the level of walls we currently have in this tier and the essentially 66% recovery since no Weather exists in the tier (thank god). Reduce the bulk by a big amount, look to other defensive Pokémon in the tier as inspiration for good bulk levels.

:necrozma-dawn-wings: Nothing actually wrong with the mon, ana just doesn't think Bad Dreams will be much use over Dark Aura, and he thinks 10% sleep is cheesy. As I said, nothing to actuslly be veto worthy about I just wanted anaconja's silly thoughts to be voiced.

:necrozma-ultra: Slight Attack nerf on Ultra, DDance felt a lil bit extra to deal with with new Neuro being a thing. We are also weary on the "ignore all type effectiveness" move, but we are unsure if the concept is fundamentally broke yet. See Beaf for more elaboration.

Bloopyghost said:
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Pokémon Name: Necrozma-Remnant
Stats: 109 HP / 101 Atk / 73 Def / 101 SpA / 73 SpD / 83 Spe / 540 BST
Typing:
Psychic.png

Abilities: Prism Armor
Movepool Changes:
+ Drain Punch, Fire Blast, Flamethrower, Focus Blast, Moonblast, Recover
- Prismatic Laser
What Separates it from Other Forms: Some small tweaks here, made its bulk and offenses worse in exchange for slightly more Speed along with better coverage. It now has ways to hit Dark types like Shifu and Calyrex-Midnight without resorting to X-Scissor while Fire Blast hits Steels better than Heat Wave. Also has 16 PP recovery, which makes CM a bit more viable. Otherwise it does the same things it does in standard; sweep with DD/Meteor Beam or set up rocks.

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Pokémon Name: Necrozma-Dusk Mane
Stats: 79 HP / 101 Atk / 113 Def / 97 SpA / 63 SpD / 87 Spe / 540 BST
Typing:
Steel.png
Fire.png

Abilities: Full Metal Body
Movepool Changes:
+ Doom Desire, Eruption, Fire Blast, Fire Lash, Flame Charge, Flamethrower, Flare Blitz, Lava Plume, Overheat
- Calm Mind, Dragon Dance, Knock Off, Meteor Beam, Moonlight, Morning Sun, Prismatic Laser, Rock Polish, Swords Dance
Type:
Steel.png

Category:
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Base Power: 110
Accuracy: 95
PP: 5
Effect: Has a 30% chance to burn the target. The target thaws out if it is frozen.
Priority: 0
Flags: Contact, Mirror, Protect
What Separates it from Other Forms: Wanted to do a Fire/Steel and decided to do smth kinda weird to have it stand out more against the meta's preexisting Steels. This is a decently fast physical tank with solid mixed offenses, the caveat being its terrible SpD. 87 Speed outpaces about half of the meta, making it a good breaker and rock setter, while its typing and physical bulk allows it to check mons like Lurantio and Vikavolt. Fire Lash's Def drops can force out foes to help it set rocks or use Doom Desire to make further progress. Sunsteel Strike is just physical Steel Steam Eruption, it does numbers and spreads burns.

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Pokémon Name: Necrozma-Dawn Wings
Stats: 79 HP / 97 Atk / 87 Def / 101 SpA / 113 SpD / 63 Spe / 540 BST
Typing:
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Abilities: Shadow Shield
Movepool Changes:
+ Defog, Foul Play, Parabolic Charge, Roost, Snarl, Sucker Punch, Taunt, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Volt Switch
- Brick Break, Calm Mind, Dragon Dance, Earth Power, Earthquake, Gyro Ball, Heat Wave, Iron Head, Meteor Beam, Prismatic Laser, Rock Polish, Smart Strike, Stealth Rock, X-Scissor
Type:
Dark.png

Category:
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Base Power: 70
Accuracy: 100
PP: 15
Effect: If this move is successful, there is a 30% chance the effect of Yawn begins on the target, even if it has a substitute.
Priority: 0
Flags: Mirror, Protect
What Separates it from Other Forms: Take two on a bulky Dark/Elec, checking some of the Ghosts and Oricorios. Good bulk, Roost and Shadow Shield means it has a good amount of longevity. Can Defog, deny hazards with Taunt and keep offensive threats in check with Foul Play, Snarl and the reworked Moongeist Beam.

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Pokémon Name: Necrozma-Nemesis
Stats: 83 HP / 101 Atk / 73 Def / 101 SpA / 73 SpD / 109 Spe / 540 BST
Typing:
Fire.png
Dark.png

Abilities: Nebula
If this Pokemon has any stat changes that are below 0, they are reset when another Pokemon faints.
Movepool Changes (from base Necrozma's movepool):
+ Crunch, Fire Blast, Flamethrower, Flare Blitz, Overheat, Scale Shot, Sucker Punch
- Calm Mind, Dragon Dance, Earthquake, Knock Off, Moonlight, Morning Sun, Rock Polish, Stealth Rock
Type:
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Category:
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Base Power: 110
Accuracy: -
PP: 5
Effect: Lowers the user's Defense and Special Defense by 1 stage. This move does not check accuracy.
Priority: 0
Flags: Mirror, Protect
What Separates it from Other Forms: Here's a fearsome mixed attacker with high Speed, potent STABs and setup options in Meteor Beam and SD + Scale Shot; hindered by its average bulk, common weaknesses and vulnerability to hazards. Nebula will eliminate the stat drops from Scale Shot, Overheat or the reworked Prismatic Laser every time a mon is KO’d to give it more staying power.
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:necrozma-dusk-mane: Pokémon is technically a fine offensive threat but if your goal is to be a defensive pivot ala Heatran i suggest either a small stat allocation, readdition of the recovery moves, Morning Sun and or an ability with defensive utility to it, as the Pokémon you seek to check all commonly carry super effective coverage and in Vikavolt's case, usually hit hard enough with Wild Charge where an offensively leaning set wouldn't be able to handle it anyway. Ofc, if your wish is to just be an offensive threat with semi decent defensive utility I think you are on the right track, I just wanted to let you know your current goals for the mon are a bit far fetched.

:necrozma-dawn-wings: Pokémon is far too bulky with Multiscale, great bulk and a very reliable recovery option. Best bet here is to ax Shadow Shield but if you REALLY want it Roost and a sizeable piece of bulk has to go.

:necrozma-ultra: Good mon, but its not using non STAB SD Scale Shot, if you are really into that as you seem.

Beaf Cultist said:
:Swsh/Necrozma-dusk-mane:
New Pokémon Name: Necrozma-DN
Stat Changes: 89 / 139 / 77 / 59 / 77 / 83 [BST: 524]
Typing Changes:
Psychic.png
Steel.png

Ability Changes: Prism Armor
Movepool Changes (If Any): +Sunraze Strike, -Photon Geyser
Type:
Psychic.png

Category:
Physical.png

Base Power: 100
Accuracy: 100
PP: 5
Effect: Ignores the target’s type when calculating damage.
Priority: 0
Flags: Contact, Mirror, Protect
What Separates it from Other Forms: Dusk Mane is cool. Bit too optimized for this meta though, so I’ve turned it into a not-so-bulky attacker with tons of defensive utility to make up for its stat-based pitfalls. Swords Dance sets can go pretty nutty as long as you have a way to hit the opponent’s dedicated physical walls, and Sunraze Strike’s guaranteed perfect neutral coverage is an awesome tool to have.

:Swsh/Necrozma-dawn-wings:
New Pokémon Name: Necrozma-Dawn
Stat Changes: 89 / 61 / 89 / 113 / 89 / 83 [BST: 524]
Typing Changes:
Psychic.png
Fire.png

Ability Changes:
Movepool Changes (If Any): +Fire Blast, Flamethrower, Nasty Plot, -Earth Power
What Separates it from Other Forms: Where are the traditional Psychics?? Bulky plot sweeper with great STABs and an interesting coverage option in Moongeist Beam, providing the powerful Special Psychic the tier has been lacking for quite a while.
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:necrozma-dusk-mane: Obscenely powerful here. Between having THE highest Attack stat by a large margin, a STAB move with zero resists, a good enough defensive typing and ability to supplement its ok bulk and even the trademark creeping of the 80 speed tier, Dusk Mane is too much. We really are not sure of the effects of having a unresistable STAB move as a wallbreaker might have on the meta, but it probably ain't good, and is something council is looking into heavily. But in the meantime, alot of that Attack needs to go.

:necrozma-dawn-wings: Just remove Nasty Plot, it seems to lack very consistent switch ins while at +2 so it would be appreciated to fix. Also you have no ability here.

G-Luke said:
:ss/necrozma:
New Pokémon Name: Necrozma
Stat Changes: 97 HP / 107 Atk / 101 Def / 127 SpA / 89 SpD / 79 Spe [BST: 600]
Typing Changes:
Psychic.png

Ability Changes: Prism Armor
Movepool Changes (If Any):
Earth Power, Heat Wave, Meteor Beam, Knock Off, Dragon Dance, Photon Geyser, Dragon Pulse, Signal Beam, Expanding Force, Iron Head, Ally Switch, Psychic Fangs, Magnet Rise
Name: Prismatic Laser
Category:
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Type:
Psychic.png

Base Power: 85
Accuracy: 100
PP: 10
Effect(s): Lowers the defense of the target if they resist the move. Immunities are not affected.
What Separates it from Other Forms: Necrozma with it's beefy stat total is in a slight predicament, it lacks a lot of its modern day tools. But fret not, Necrozma is bulky enough and strong enough to make do. It eats up alot of hits and while it's special coverage is scarce, Psychic + Hidden Power [Fighting] + Dark Pulse currently hits all of the tier neutrally. SD sets on the other hand function with Earthquake and X-Scissor to punch holes in common switchins.


:ss/necrozma-dusk-mane:
New Pokémon Name: Necrozma-Lionheart
Stat Changes: 97 HP / 109 Atk / 79 Def / 89 SpA / 103 SpD / 67 Spe [BST: 534]
Typing Changes:
Steel.png
Fire.png

Ability Changes: Prism Armor
Movepool Changes (If Any):
Lava Plume, Flare Blitz, Will O Wisp, Heat Crash, Fire Blast, Flamethrower
Moonlight, Morning Sun, Dragon Dance, Photon Geyser, Dragon Pulse, Signal Beam, Expanding Force, Iron Head, Psychic Fangs, Prismatic Laser, Earth Power
What Separates it from Other Forms: Necrozma-Lionheart plays somewhat similiar to Heatran in standard, but less obnoxious trapping more standard attacking. Steel/Fire adds alot of solid defensive utility while still bringing offensive pressure.

:ss/necrozma-dawn-wings:
New Pokémon Name: Necrozma-Batwing
Stat Changes: 97 HP / 67 Atk / 83 Def / 113 SpA / 73 SpD / 101 Spe [BST: 534]
Typing Changes:
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Ghost.png

Ability Changes: Prism Armor
Movepool Changes (If Any):
Taunt, Foul Play, Will O Wisp, Defog, Hex, Shadow Ball, Teleport, Roost
Morning Sun, Calm Mind, Swords Dance, Dragon Dance, Photon Geyser, Dragon Pulse, Signal Beam, Heat Wave, Expanding Force, Iron Head, Psychic Fangs, Prismatic Laser, Earthquake
What Separates it from Other Forms: Necrozma-Batwing is somewhat fast and can exert strong offensive pressure thanks to its strong STAB combo. It unfortunately hardwalled by the likes of most Dark types in the tier, but it still can do a bit of work against them with hazard support.
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Your subs are so sexy Alternatium submitter Gee Looke. Keep up the good work! I'd say if anything rework the signatures of the Dusk and Dawn forms, especially on the latter, they may be too good.

r1dude said:
:sm/necrozma:
New Pokémon Name: Necrozma
Stat Changes: 80/85/85/80/85/85 | 500
Typing Changes: Dark
Ability Changes: Guts
Movepool Changes (If Any):
+ Sucker Punch,
- Photon Geyser, Dragon Dance, Cosmic Power, Earthquake, Swords Dance, Autotomize
What Separates it from Other Forms: Guts breaker(aka fck scald) with priority sucker punch.
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Necrozma is actually pretty weak here all things considered. Imo re add the Set up moves you removed and bump up the HP, so it can force progress much more reliably against the tier.

One last note, similar to the ViZar Dawn Wings thing, another silly anaconja thing is he does NOT appreciate subs that are doing the all prime numbers strat making numerical errors. 63 is not a prime number, and pretending it is will ruin Ana's day and rub flavor purists wrong. We can't actually force you to make these changes, but its just a thing I wanted submitters to be aware of if they heavily deal with flavour like that. Might swing a vote, you never know.

Ok that was alot. Giving a clean 36 Hour window for subs to be tweaked before we close submissions and open voting. Of course, new subs can be added in the meantime, by both existing subbers and new people, just ensure they are not crazy or they will be vetoed unprompted! See ya in a couple days.
 
Ok guys seems like everyone's changes are in order. Time to proceed with voting! Vote for your favorite subs
 
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