So basically, there's no problem, the meta is fine, is that what you're saying?Hi, just dropping in to tell you why shell smash is not broken.
So the quote below seems to be the summarization of the argument, and to that I say...
To the point of using fake out on a Queenly Majesty / Dazzling Pokemon: Seems more like your saying QM / Dazzling is broken, not Shell Smash.
"if they use shell smash they get to +2, outspeed all your Pokemon, have very powerful stored power trip and generally break through your checks": Hi, meet the moves Spectral Thief, Heart Swap, Haze, Roar, Dragon Tail, Whirlwind, etc.
- Unaware and Prankster Haze and Heart Swap literally beat Shell Smash, and I will prove it if need be.
- if they can't use shell smash they can either attack and probably kill a mon or use another setup move which gets them to +1 (or geomancy or whatever and waste an item) which yeah I agree isn't looking great for you but doesn't seem like you are immediately in a losing position.: Boi, if they run shell smash, it's probably because they need it to outpower and break the opponent's teams. Especially since Power Trip / Stored Power die w/o smash boosts ???
Literally what I'm getting from the argument is that you all just can't prepare for it, ngl.
Just run like Unaware Bulkveltal and you win against most smashers.
Yveltal @ Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Defense / 4 SpD
- Will-O-Wisp / Toxic / something
- Spectral Thief
- King's Shield
Of course, it has it's counters, but it beats smash p easily.