Ladder Balanced Hackmons

[Uselesscrab]

It's on the Battle Maison banlist, so it does exist.



We know from hacking that the list of abilities stops at #188. They don't have unique abilities.



Well, even when the Latiosite is released, this is illegal. Mega Latios has Levitate, not Contrary.

Okay, first of all, I can understand the misconception that they had unique abilities, as there was a report of that earlier that turned out to be false. http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/60943/t1965654-hoopa-diancie-volcanions-abilities/

Second of all, that was a BH set that he was posting, as Kit said above. We don't even know for sure that their standard abilities are Levitate, btw (although it's likely).

 

[GoldenSandslash15]

Yeah, sorry, I totally derped and forgot that this was the BH thread. My bad.

And we do know that they (normally) have Levitate, via hackers.

 

[Ranger Mike]

Well, even when the Latiosite is released, this is illegal. Mega Latios has Levitate, not Contrary.

first of all this is balanced hackmons second of all I'm pretty sure it's actual ability is adaptability but yeah lets stay on topic

 

[GoldenSandslash15]

first of all this is balanced hackmons second of all I'm pretty sure it's actual ability is adaptability but yeah lets stay on topic

Um, did you not see the very last post on Page 26?

Also, in terms of what their actual ability is:

 

[Keep it Playful]

Also, I've been running:

Latios-Mega @ Leftovers
Ability: Contrary
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Psycho Boost
- Secret Sword / Psystrike
- Overheat

Although powerful with excellent coverage, this set will be completely ineffective against the ever common Sturdy Shedinja. I'd recommend removing one of the attacks, as three should get the job done in most cases and replace with fourth move with something that threatens the bug. Leech Seed, Infestation, Sacred Fire, etc. Something that will give the Trainer you are facing hesitation about switching in Shedinja.

Edit: Changed tenses.

 

[Ranger Mike]

Although powerful with excellent coverage, this set will be completely ineffective against the ever common Sturdy Shedinja. I'd recommend removing one of the attacks, as three should get the job done in most cases and replace with fourth move with something that threatens the bug. Leech Seed, Infestation, Sacred Fire, etc. Something that will give the Trainer you are facing hesitation about switching in Shedinja.

Edit: Changed tenses.

I've run searing shot on my Latioses as it's the special equivalent of sacred fire

 

[Keep it Playful]

I've run searing shot on my Latioses as it's the special equivalent of sacred fire

I wouldn't call it equivalent, as a 50% burning chance is a lot more than a 30% burning chance, but if it works that's what matters. : ) For me, anything with less than a 50% chance is more of a nice bonus that I don't expect to happen.

 

[TheCommadore]

Personally I like magma storm on latios, it gives good coverage and damage while also murdering any shed switchins with a bit of prediction.

 

[Kit Kasai]

If all else fails, moldy golurk.

 

[NickFusi0n]

Although powerful with excellent coverage, this set will be completely ineffective against the ever common Sturdy Shedinja. I'd recommend removing one of the attacks, as three should get the job done in most cases and replace with fourth move with something that threatens the bug. Leech Seed, Infestation, Sacred Fire, etc. Something that will give the Trainer you are facing hesitation about switching in Shedinja.

Edit: Changed tenses.

Thanks, I did actually run Searing Shot at one point before Overheat, and I usually have a Shadow Sneak Deoxys-S in my teams with Mold Breaker, waiting to murder Sturdy Shedinja.

 

[Keep it Playful]

Thanks, I did actually run Searing Shot at one point before Overheat, and I usually have a Shadow Sneak Deoxys-S in my teams with Mold Breaker, waiting to murder Sturdy Shedinja.

Welcome. Cool sounds like you are prepared for it. : )

 

[Rumors]

Also, I've been running:

Latios-Mega @ Leftovers
Ability: Contrary
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Psycho Boost
- Secret Sword / Psystrike
- Overheat

Unaware Cress called. She says she can't wait to meet this Latios set.

 

[Kit Kasai]

Still takes a lot from Draco I think

 

[NickFusi0n]

252 SpA Latios Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Cresselia: 163-193 (36.7 - 43.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

 

[Uselesscrab]

Personally I like magma storm on latios, it gives good coverage and damage while also murdering any shed switchins with a bit of prediction.

I agree completely. While its accuracy leaves a lot to be desired, Magma Storm is one of the few moves for sweepers that can kill Shed and still have a reasonable use otherwise.

 

[Rumors]

252 SpA Latios Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Cresselia: 163-193 (36.7 - 43.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Which is low enough to stall out Draco Meteor PP even after switching into it or use something to punish or force Latios out. Or let Latios get some buffs, steal them, and then smack it with Stored Power.

 

[CactusCacti]

So Volcanion seems like the perfect burn abuser with its dual stab for scalds, searing shots and sacred fires.
You get a burn, you get a burn, everyone gets a burn!

 

[Adrian Marin]

None of the new Pokemon seem to be very good tbh, Volcanion could potentially run a PH or Regen-Vest set to work as an excellent Anti- Pixelate/Refrigerate, it also has excellent type synergy with Mega Venusaur and grass types in general.

 

[Ranger Mike]

I guess diancie can run sand stream but hoops is forever doomed being 4x weak to knock off and pursuit
edit: woooo post #666

 

[NickFusi0n]

We currently don't know Steam Eruption's burn chance, however I'm planning on using it on a Serene Grace Kyogre/Palkia sometime, that'd be fun to try.

 

[harakirinosaru]

Why is there even a vote about whether to ban Leppa / Pulse stalling? It's like winning a chess match by dropping a rock on your opponents hands.

It should be banned, as well as anyone who wants to keep it around.

 

[Ranger Mike]

While Leppia needs to be banned there's no reason to be so hostile about it also that was kinda off topic from the current conversation :/

 

[Adrian Marin]

Why is there even a vote about whether to ban Leppa / Pulse stalling? It's like winning a chess match by dropping a rock on your opponents hands.

It should be banned, as well as anyone who wants to keep it around.

Excuse me? Leppa is not the problem, Leppa has legitimate uses and should not be banned just to hurt a strategy that is almost never used. Also, banning Leppa Berry will not solve this issue, there are countless other methods for this strategy to work.

 

[Ranger Mike]

True I mean banning leppa seems like the most practical way but people will find out how to manipulate endless battles

 

[Halliday]

Just ban heal pulse. it's not a big deal.