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Battle Tree Discussion and Records
- Thread starter Eisenherz
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Reporting an on-going winning streak of 1000 consecutive wins on Super Double Battle Tree.
I have finally climbed up to the 1000th battle on Super Battle Tree. I have been grinding since the last post from 450 wins to 1000 wins.
Here are the proofs:
For some reason it did not allow me to upload the battle video. It says "This Battle Video cannot be made public", which is weird because I had uploads many successfully in the past.
The team is slightly different from the last post. If you want to see the team, click on the quote below.
Update:
1020: DV7W-WWWW-WWWT-GWGG
1021: FXJW-WWWW-WWWT-HJHL
1022: SPRG-WWWW-WWWT-HJHR
1023: ZS3G-WWWW-WWWT-HJYX
1024: WWFG-WWWW-WWWT-HJY6
1025: Y5HG-WWWW-WWWT-HJYC
1026: TC2W-WWWW-WWWT-HJYT
1027: 6F4G-WWWW-WWWT-HJJ3
1028: RNGG-WWWW-WWWT-HJKD
Update to 1090:
1045: QXKW-WWWW-WWWT-KL7K
1050: GZGG-WWWW-WWWT-KL8Q
1055: RZJG-WWWW-WWWT-KL92
1060: X24W-WWWW-WWWT-KL99
1065: SE9G-WWWW-WWWT-KL9Y
1070: VL4G-WWWW-WWWT-KL9Q
1080: MNRG-WWWW-WWWT-KL9V
1085: 3CGG-WWWW-WWWT-KLA7
1090: 88KW-WWWW-WWWT-KLAE
I have finally climbed up to the 1000th battle on Super Battle Tree. I have been grinding since the last post from 450 wins to 1000 wins.
Here are the proofs:
For some reason it did not allow me to upload the battle video. It says "This Battle Video cannot be made public", which is weird because I had uploads many successfully in the past.
The team is slightly different from the last post. If you want to see the team, click on the quote below.
Update:
1021: FXJW-WWWW-WWWT-HJHL
1022: SPRG-WWWW-WWWT-HJHR
1023: ZS3G-WWWW-WWWT-HJYX
1024: WWFG-WWWW-WWWT-HJY6
1025: Y5HG-WWWW-WWWT-HJYC
1026: TC2W-WWWW-WWWT-HJYT
1027: 6F4G-WWWW-WWWT-HJJ3
1028: RNGG-WWWW-WWWT-HJKD
Update to 1090:
1045: QXKW-WWWW-WWWT-KL7K
1050: GZGG-WWWW-WWWT-KL8Q
1055: RZJG-WWWW-WWWT-KL92
1060: X24W-WWWW-WWWT-KL99
1065: SE9G-WWWW-WWWT-KL9Y
1070: VL4G-WWWW-WWWT-KL9Q
1080: MNRG-WWWW-WWWT-KL9V
1085: 3CGG-WWWW-WWWT-KLA7
1090: 88KW-WWWW-WWWT-KLAE
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im really interested in the ways you deal with lunala and the worst teams it appeared on
my araquanid team is fucked really hard by primal groudon so i know what thats like
LOL I didn't mean Lunala hahaha. I mean Cresselia. I'm dumb. I play Super Double so there is no pokemons like Lunala, P-Groudon. Ways I deal with the threats have been said from my previous post so I don't wanna repeat haha
Having a debate at the moment for super singles with my friends, as they keep having near misses, since their plus 6 set up Pokemon from Durant strats get the board cleared thanks to Whirlwind and Roar.
My very best friend is trying to run the same Venomoth as me with Durant and he's encountered Whirlwind Hippowdon, after the Mimikyu red card has been used up and i'm like. i'm very sorry. i don't have any good advice for this one.
I told him just use taunt with mimikyu. Thief until it dies or gets gust out again. If Durant comes out, entrainment it for extra idle turn. On the idle turn switch to moth and protect. If it gets gusted again just start using iron head on Durant and hope for a flinch. or switch back to moth and protect and keep this going until it runs out of whirlwind pp. if moth stays active, put up a sub. protect again and pray its not going to gust you out again. if it goes for earthquake... GREAT. you now have 2 free turns of attacks.
But then the issue came down to. Then what happens after hippo goes down. If Durant is active and choiced into iron head, it can't use entrainment on next pokemon, unless you double switch. If mimikyu has fainted then what? The next Pokemon might have a move that ohko your set up Pokemon on the switch.
My friend says hes so annoyed that he's gonna try and run Guillotine as Durants last move. Just to try and get rid of Hippowdon and Skarmory.
Or drop Mimikyu all together in favour of a Moody Smeargle with ingrain.
Does anybody here actually have a viable strategy for Whirlwind/ Roar when using Durant in Super Singles?
My very best friend is trying to run the same Venomoth as me with Durant and he's encountered Whirlwind Hippowdon, after the Mimikyu red card has been used up and i'm like. i'm very sorry. i don't have any good advice for this one.
I told him just use taunt with mimikyu. Thief until it dies or gets gust out again. If Durant comes out, entrainment it for extra idle turn. On the idle turn switch to moth and protect. If it gets gusted again just start using iron head on Durant and hope for a flinch. or switch back to moth and protect and keep this going until it runs out of whirlwind pp. if moth stays active, put up a sub. protect again and pray its not going to gust you out again. if it goes for earthquake... GREAT. you now have 2 free turns of attacks.
But then the issue came down to. Then what happens after hippo goes down. If Durant is active and choiced into iron head, it can't use entrainment on next pokemon, unless you double switch. If mimikyu has fainted then what? The next Pokemon might have a move that ohko your set up Pokemon on the switch.
My friend says hes so annoyed that he's gonna try and run Guillotine as Durants last move. Just to try and get rid of Hippowdon and Skarmory.
Or drop Mimikyu all together in favour of a Moody Smeargle with ingrain.
Does anybody here actually have a viable strategy for Whirlwind/ Roar when using Durant in Super Singles?
Use a setup poke that has taunt. Alternatively, try to get both Mimi and Durant killed so that there's nothing for Roar to bring in. Guillotine won't even work very well as an anti-Skarm measure, since that can have Sturdy.
Speaking of the leaderboard: I'm new to this thread but the leaderboard is some ugly wall of text. Wouldn't it look better with some nicer formatting and maybe some icons? Example:
#01. GG Unit, (2005*) -
Etc with all the other links and such
It probably would make the page take really long to load while also being hard to read from a phone. This is also related to the person who was asking for a viability rankings list: the streak number is a pretty weak indicator of a team or Pokemon’s strength when a great team can lose through sloppy play or a team that’s not that good can have one extremely lucky run or someone can just BS a streak entirely and get it listed.
Beyond that, searching the page for a Pokemon’s name is a pretty fast and easy way to get some examples of how people are using it, and from there you just have to be your own judge. If anything’s wrong with the leaderboard (other than being slow to take down faked streaks or at least make note that their success is extremely dubious) is that it doesn’t specify that you can click on the names in that wall of text and get more specific information about the builds.
I don’t know how one can ‘keep’ encountering it when it only shows up in the first what, 30 battles and would have to be a lead to make any difference if one was playing correctly. Also +6 Signal Beam from uninvested Venomoth does 110% minimum to Hippowdon (assuming perfect IVs, which it wouldn't have early on), so either you need to teach your friend how to breed Pokemon so they're not using one with a bad IV and a reducing nature or they were messing up in more ways than they're telling you because as others have mentioned, there are plenty of ways around it even if using a suboptimal team.
Sacrificing the other two team members has been a known workaround pretty much since Truant Durant has been available. You could also just try attacking with minimal boosts from your set-up sweeper since early on since it’s just weak Pokémon sets you're facing (even if you're not boosted enough to KO the last mon Durant would have a chance to finish it off with an attack). Or you could just be patient and know that Hippowdon isn’t going to use Whirlwind *every* time and try setting up a few more times before the panic switch to lock Durant into Iron Head, which would be beating almost nothing that comes out 3rd. My team has had the longest Singles streak in the Tree ever since I first used it like a year and a half ago and uses Taunt on Glalie, so it seems kinda silly to consider anti-phazing measures some sort of unheard-of niche strategy or to imply that I must have somehow lucked into 2500+ straight wins without considering Whirlwind/Roar users.
Your friend's intuition is at least right in that most set-up sweepers aren't good enough to justify using the other two Pokemon slots to support it and the team would be capable of a longer streak with a different sweeper or even a standalone good Pokemon like Chansey in Mimikyu's place. Of course it's up to them to decide where they fall on the scale from "let's see how many I can win in a row by KOing as much stuff as possible with Venomoth/other crapmon" to "let's see how many in a row I can win with two top-tier Pokemon that have to deal with Venomoth/other crapmon being dead weight most of the time" but Mimikyu doesn't help Durant get enough 'extra' Entrainments to offset how much more often something like Venomoth would fail to sweep compared to the good set-up sweepers.
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Well I just lost my super amazing, super singles run to Sina. SINA of all people. Wow!!
Got all the way up to a win streak of 139, with a modified version of GG Unit's winning singles team but with my trademark star from the battle Maison... Venomoth. Here's the rundown:
Durant: Male (Barbados).
Item: Choice Scarf.
Nature: Jolly.
Ability: Truant.
EV's: 4 HP / 240 Attack/ 20 Def / 236 Speed
- Entrainment
- Iron Head
- X-Scissor
- Substitute
Turn 1 entrainment. Copy Truant to the opponent. Switch out protect and set up. sweep for game. this is Durants main role (as is durant in every durant team)
Funny story with this Durant. Somewhere along the lines I botched up my EV training. This thing was originally a 4 hp. 252 attack and 252 speed Durant. but after the 100th win I decided to start using the ev reducing berries. Problem was I didn't have enough of them to really warrant wanting to use them all. so instead went and used only a few to drop my speed stat then killed a few zubats to get up to 236 speed evs, then lowered my attack. Used a few Irons on it. I add up my evs. i only run 500. not 508. I used a HP up, which worked but my HP didn't change. somethings wrong here but couldn't be bothered to change it. The speed stat was the most important and as my mate pointed out it dies to a fire blast or fire type move anyway.
Currently have 6 Kelpsy berries, 6 Pomeg berries and 6 Tomato berries growing in Poke-Pelago. To try again later.
This thing will have the same ev spread as GG units Durant once berries are harvested.
X-scissor and iron head provide stab options for later switch ins. X scissor is used on turn 1 against Espeon and Absol though.
Substitute is still debatable. i read GG Units post and like the idea, but i have never once used a single PP from it. Maybe another move?
Mimikyu: Male (Doppleganger).
Item: Red Card.
Nature: Jolly.
Ability: Disguise.
EV's: 252 HP / 20 Sp. Def / 236 Speed
- Thief
- Thunder Wave
- Confide
- Taunt
Not much to say here. It's the same Mimikyu as GG units one. And this Pokemon has the same (correct) ev spread.
It fills in the roll of "What do i do against that lead Wishiwashi or Komala or Mimikyu immune to my entrainment."
This thing has saved me in so many battles it's unreal.
Taunt helps with those protect spammers.
Thunderwave can allow for easier set up, even though it misses sometimes. and thief can steal items after the Red card is used up. very good for removing choice items as well as other annoying items like bright powder and quick claw.
Confide is there pretty much to allow for an easier set up on special attackers. and it might help Durant to survive an attack that isn't fire type.
Venomoth: Male (Dovahkiin).
Item: Black Sludge.
Nature: Modest.
Ability: Tinted lens.
EV’s: 252 HP/ 4 Def/ 252 Sp. Atk
-Protect
-Substitute
-Quiver Dance
-Signal Beam
Dovahkiin, the Twitch plays Pokemon, Dragon slaying Pokemon is back! and it's a different gender!? (this one was the first perfect 5 iv spread egg I hatched in ultra sun. I couldn't bare to send my old one through poke-bank.)
Why I use Venomoth is because I have a huge huge dislike to using Glalie in so many ways. For starters the Moody Boosts put me off. Sure I might get to plus 6 special attack, but I may also have a drop in accuracy, which could cost me the game. Quiver Dance users don't have this problem. They just set up and go. Out of all the Quiver Dancers the best one by far for the battle tree (and the Maison), has been Venomoth. Its typing is amazing. 0.25 damage from hi-jump kicks while setting up. Yes please! Bug/ Poison is such a good typing. My original use for this in omega ruby was to stop the choice scarfed leads from switching out, if the move they were stuck doing, did zero damage. If I had Yanmega and the opponent was using earthquake, they would switch. With Bug/ Poison having zero immunities I never worry about the opponent switching out.
Venomoth comes with many other perks that Glalie doesn't get. Such as immunity to Poison. Toxic Spikes on the switch in don't scare this moth. Resistance to fighting but you do trade a steel weakness for a psychic weakness, which is actually pretty brutal. But most Psychic types are special attacking, and since quiver dance boosts your sp. def, you should be fine at plus 6.
Tinted Lens is the biggest selling point for it, as the 0.5 damage from resisted stuff is removed and can calmly get kos against things that should resist bug types. the quad resistant to bug type pokemon can be a little trickier but the 0.25 damage gets changed to 0.5 damage thanks to tinted lens, which still lets it get 2 hkos.
One thing you may of noticed on this new gen 7 Venomoth compared to the one I used in my Maison run, was the replacement of Bug Buzz for Signal Beam. Lets just say I was more than annoyed at the loss I took in Omega Ruby from soundproof Abomasnow, and wanted revenge. While much weaker, Signal beam has a nice chance of confusion. it also has more PP. only annoying thing i have seen so far is i have to 3 hko Snorlax before. this was never an issue with bug buzz.
Onto the losing win streak battle!
I lost to Sina on battle 140. Battle code here: 46VG-WWWW-WWWT-FS24
Heres how the battle went. Turn 1 Abomasnow. use Entrainment. Abomasnow mega evolves and uses protect. oh dear.
turn 2 switch into Mimikyu. dodges Focus Blast.
turn 3 Abomasnow uses Blizzard. removes disguise. red card activates and pulls up Drampa.
i then thunder wave, thief (steals a quick claw) and taunt in succession before Mimikyu faints.
send in durant. get the entertainment off. (No quick claw for you mate) and fire blast ohkos durant.
send in Venomoth. set up sub and set up to plus 6 with quiver dance.
once fully set up i ko Drampa and Mega Abomasnow comes out.
I go for signal beam, but an ice shard has priority and brakes my sub. Signal Beam ohkos Mega Abomasnow.
Sina sends out Mandibuzz and I try to use sub and it uses Punishment. The sub is immediately broken. I go for a protect to try and stall a turn of hail, and it uses punishment again.
I use signal beam. Mandibuzz lives on 1 HP. Punishment OHKOs me.
And that's the end of the run. RIP. Strangely after doing damage calculations...
0 Atk Mandibuzz Punishment (200 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Venomoth: 118-141 (66.6 - 79.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery.
If i hadn't of used Substitute I may of had a chance to win this. If I had full HP, it would of been a guaranteed 2hko on my Venomoth. i had 133 HP remaining after the sub/ hail/ black sludge, which put me in the 75% health range. The Mandibuzz just got the higher end of the roll percentage here.
before i leave, i'll give you guys some other funny video replays which could of gone very bad against me:
Battle 79: NFZW-WWWW-WWWT-FSYJ
A fake out Weavile lead makes me double switch, and Durant gets frozen on the switch back in. i then suffer weaviles wrath until durant thaws out with 20 hp remaining before i can use Entrainment before it faints and i can set up to win.
Battle 109: LTQW-WWWW-WWWT-FSLA
A Lead Archeops scares the crap out of me, as i'm worried it might be choice banded. I was taking GG Unit's comment into consideration here about choice users running out of PP and switching out. after losing Durant turn 1 after entrainment, because of head smash. I send in Mimikyu by mistake and Paralyse it. After a failed thief because I still have card, red card forces archeops out into Conkledurr. i then have to set up on a paralysed conkeldurr with no entrainment set up. and this thing had moves like stone edge and pay back which could break my subs. but i prevail and get the full +6 and a substitute to sweep the rest of the game. in a way the Mimikyu's thunder wave helped me to set up. if i did switch straight into Venomoth, i would only have like 4 turns of set up, before Arcehops switched.
Battle 130: 2ZDW-WWWW-WWWT-FSSR
Lead Incineroar. could have quick claw. turn 1 switch to Mimikyu. Incineroar uses Flare Blitz, and gets switched with red card. I use confide, then taunt the new Magnezone, before it faints. send in Durant. use entrainment. works. dies in one hit to thunderbolt. i then do my usual reckless set up of Sub-protect-dance-dance again, then back to sub. I had completely forgotten all about the chance of this thing having Volt switch. I get my stats to plus 6 and as I use sub again, it uses Volt switch on me. i'm like OH! that could of ruined my set up! But I sweep the rest of Professor Kukui's team.
Battle 132: HEKG-WWWW-WWWT-FT2P
Another Head smash lead. This time it's Rampardos. I try doing what i did to Archeops earlier, by sending in Mimikyu to force it out. But Mold breaker says NO DISGUISE FOR YOU! and OHKO's Mimikyu with head smash on the switch. Switch in Durant. get entrainment off. Gets one shotted by head smash. i think its over for me, if its the choice band set, and it uses sitrus berry. I'm like what! I didn't have to lose Mimikyu this game! I set up on Rampardos and sweep. The opponent was even kind enough to have a Slaking in the second position. Would of loved it if this was red carded out.
If you want to check out my Omega Ruby run with Venomoth you can click here: http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/battle-maison-discussion-records.3492706/page-205#post-7053369
and here's the link to GG Units post that truly helped make the run possible: http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/battle-tree-discussion-and-records.3587215/page-76#post-7293831
Am I trying this again? I sure am. Knowing how much I misplayed that last game.
Got all the way up to a win streak of 139, with a modified version of GG Unit's winning singles team but with my trademark star from the battle Maison... Venomoth. Here's the rundown:
Durant: Male (Barbados).
Item: Choice Scarf.
Nature: Jolly.
Ability: Truant.
EV's: 4 HP / 240 Attack/ 20 Def / 236 Speed
- Entrainment
- Iron Head
- X-Scissor
- Substitute
Turn 1 entrainment. Copy Truant to the opponent. Switch out protect and set up. sweep for game. this is Durants main role (as is durant in every durant team)
Funny story with this Durant. Somewhere along the lines I botched up my EV training. This thing was originally a 4 hp. 252 attack and 252 speed Durant. but after the 100th win I decided to start using the ev reducing berries. Problem was I didn't have enough of them to really warrant wanting to use them all. so instead went and used only a few to drop my speed stat then killed a few zubats to get up to 236 speed evs, then lowered my attack. Used a few Irons on it. I add up my evs. i only run 500. not 508. I used a HP up, which worked but my HP didn't change. somethings wrong here but couldn't be bothered to change it. The speed stat was the most important and as my mate pointed out it dies to a fire blast or fire type move anyway.
Currently have 6 Kelpsy berries, 6 Pomeg berries and 6 Tomato berries growing in Poke-Pelago. To try again later.
This thing will have the same ev spread as GG units Durant once berries are harvested.
X-scissor and iron head provide stab options for later switch ins. X scissor is used on turn 1 against Espeon and Absol though.
Substitute is still debatable. i read GG Units post and like the idea, but i have never once used a single PP from it. Maybe another move?
Mimikyu: Male (Doppleganger).
Item: Red Card.
Nature: Jolly.
Ability: Disguise.
EV's: 252 HP / 20 Sp. Def / 236 Speed
- Thief
- Thunder Wave
- Confide
- Taunt
Not much to say here. It's the same Mimikyu as GG units one. And this Pokemon has the same (correct) ev spread.
It fills in the roll of "What do i do against that lead Wishiwashi or Komala or Mimikyu immune to my entrainment."
This thing has saved me in so many battles it's unreal.
Taunt helps with those protect spammers.
Thunderwave can allow for easier set up, even though it misses sometimes. and thief can steal items after the Red card is used up. very good for removing choice items as well as other annoying items like bright powder and quick claw.
Confide is there pretty much to allow for an easier set up on special attackers. and it might help Durant to survive an attack that isn't fire type.
Venomoth: Male (Dovahkiin).
Item: Black Sludge.
Nature: Modest.
Ability: Tinted lens.
EV’s: 252 HP/ 4 Def/ 252 Sp. Atk
-Protect
-Substitute
-Quiver Dance
-Signal Beam
Dovahkiin, the Twitch plays Pokemon, Dragon slaying Pokemon is back! and it's a different gender!? (this one was the first perfect 5 iv spread egg I hatched in ultra sun. I couldn't bare to send my old one through poke-bank.)
Why I use Venomoth is because I have a huge huge dislike to using Glalie in so many ways. For starters the Moody Boosts put me off. Sure I might get to plus 6 special attack, but I may also have a drop in accuracy, which could cost me the game. Quiver Dance users don't have this problem. They just set up and go. Out of all the Quiver Dancers the best one by far for the battle tree (and the Maison), has been Venomoth. Its typing is amazing. 0.25 damage from hi-jump kicks while setting up. Yes please! Bug/ Poison is such a good typing. My original use for this in omega ruby was to stop the choice scarfed leads from switching out, if the move they were stuck doing, did zero damage. If I had Yanmega and the opponent was using earthquake, they would switch. With Bug/ Poison having zero immunities I never worry about the opponent switching out.
Venomoth comes with many other perks that Glalie doesn't get. Such as immunity to Poison. Toxic Spikes on the switch in don't scare this moth. Resistance to fighting but you do trade a steel weakness for a psychic weakness, which is actually pretty brutal. But most Psychic types are special attacking, and since quiver dance boosts your sp. def, you should be fine at plus 6.
Tinted Lens is the biggest selling point for it, as the 0.5 damage from resisted stuff is removed and can calmly get kos against things that should resist bug types. the quad resistant to bug type pokemon can be a little trickier but the 0.25 damage gets changed to 0.5 damage thanks to tinted lens, which still lets it get 2 hkos.
One thing you may of noticed on this new gen 7 Venomoth compared to the one I used in my Maison run, was the replacement of Bug Buzz for Signal Beam. Lets just say I was more than annoyed at the loss I took in Omega Ruby from soundproof Abomasnow, and wanted revenge. While much weaker, Signal beam has a nice chance of confusion. it also has more PP. only annoying thing i have seen so far is i have to 3 hko Snorlax before. this was never an issue with bug buzz.
Onto the losing win streak battle!
I lost to Sina on battle 140. Battle code here: 46VG-WWWW-WWWT-FS24
Heres how the battle went. Turn 1 Abomasnow. use Entrainment. Abomasnow mega evolves and uses protect. oh dear.
turn 2 switch into Mimikyu. dodges Focus Blast.
turn 3 Abomasnow uses Blizzard. removes disguise. red card activates and pulls up Drampa.
i then thunder wave, thief (steals a quick claw) and taunt in succession before Mimikyu faints.
send in durant. get the entertainment off. (No quick claw for you mate) and fire blast ohkos durant.
send in Venomoth. set up sub and set up to plus 6 with quiver dance.
once fully set up i ko Drampa and Mega Abomasnow comes out.
I go for signal beam, but an ice shard has priority and brakes my sub. Signal Beam ohkos Mega Abomasnow.
Sina sends out Mandibuzz and I try to use sub and it uses Punishment. The sub is immediately broken. I go for a protect to try and stall a turn of hail, and it uses punishment again.
I use signal beam. Mandibuzz lives on 1 HP. Punishment OHKOs me.
And that's the end of the run. RIP. Strangely after doing damage calculations...
0 Atk Mandibuzz Punishment (200 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Venomoth: 118-141 (66.6 - 79.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery.
If i hadn't of used Substitute I may of had a chance to win this. If I had full HP, it would of been a guaranteed 2hko on my Venomoth. i had 133 HP remaining after the sub/ hail/ black sludge, which put me in the 75% health range. The Mandibuzz just got the higher end of the roll percentage here.
before i leave, i'll give you guys some other funny video replays which could of gone very bad against me:
Battle 79: NFZW-WWWW-WWWT-FSYJ
A fake out Weavile lead makes me double switch, and Durant gets frozen on the switch back in. i then suffer weaviles wrath until durant thaws out with 20 hp remaining before i can use Entrainment before it faints and i can set up to win.
Battle 109: LTQW-WWWW-WWWT-FSLA
A Lead Archeops scares the crap out of me, as i'm worried it might be choice banded. I was taking GG Unit's comment into consideration here about choice users running out of PP and switching out. after losing Durant turn 1 after entrainment, because of head smash. I send in Mimikyu by mistake and Paralyse it. After a failed thief because I still have card, red card forces archeops out into Conkledurr. i then have to set up on a paralysed conkeldurr with no entrainment set up. and this thing had moves like stone edge and pay back which could break my subs. but i prevail and get the full +6 and a substitute to sweep the rest of the game. in a way the Mimikyu's thunder wave helped me to set up. if i did switch straight into Venomoth, i would only have like 4 turns of set up, before Arcehops switched.
Battle 130: 2ZDW-WWWW-WWWT-FSSR
Lead Incineroar. could have quick claw. turn 1 switch to Mimikyu. Incineroar uses Flare Blitz, and gets switched with red card. I use confide, then taunt the new Magnezone, before it faints. send in Durant. use entrainment. works. dies in one hit to thunderbolt. i then do my usual reckless set up of Sub-protect-dance-dance again, then back to sub. I had completely forgotten all about the chance of this thing having Volt switch. I get my stats to plus 6 and as I use sub again, it uses Volt switch on me. i'm like OH! that could of ruined my set up! But I sweep the rest of Professor Kukui's team.
Battle 132: HEKG-WWWW-WWWT-FT2P
Another Head smash lead. This time it's Rampardos. I try doing what i did to Archeops earlier, by sending in Mimikyu to force it out. But Mold breaker says NO DISGUISE FOR YOU! and OHKO's Mimikyu with head smash on the switch. Switch in Durant. get entrainment off. Gets one shotted by head smash. i think its over for me, if its the choice band set, and it uses sitrus berry. I'm like what! I didn't have to lose Mimikyu this game! I set up on Rampardos and sweep. The opponent was even kind enough to have a Slaking in the second position. Would of loved it if this was red carded out.
If you want to check out my Omega Ruby run with Venomoth you can click here: http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/battle-maison-discussion-records.3492706/page-205#post-7053369
and here's the link to GG Units post that truly helped make the run possible: http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/battle-tree-discussion-and-records.3587215/page-76#post-7293831
Am I trying this again? I sure am. Knowing how much I misplayed that last game.
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You have yet to witness Sina's true horrible powers...
Believe it or not, Punishment only has 5 PP, and then the set is harmless. Shunting the entire supply of that onto subs was another available option, and even prevents the possibility of them winning with the critical KO from full health.
I noticed her Drampa carries Quick Claw and Fire blast. That is absolutely terrifying for any Durant team. thankfully in my battle i was able to remove the item before it did any harm.
I had no idea that punishment even had 5 pp. wow. i could of protect/ sub spammed until it had all been used up. looking at Mandibuzz 4's other moves, it doesn't have anything that even does damage.
What happens if Torment is used on a pokemon with a choice item? Will it switch out or struggle?
Strictly speaking of game mechanic, the poke struggles every other turn. I have no idea how the AI would react, though
I've been on discord since the day I posted my 1000th streak, and I have not edited anything, have I? Except for the Lunala to Cresselia thing because I was in a rush editing the first write up. Okay I honestly didn't know Alakazam FS couldn't appear after 49. I have seen it many times during my runs since I have tried more than 6 runs. That's why I kept in mind Focus Sash Zam is a threat to the team. I quitted using Catalogue on Serebii after the the 100~ wins on this run anyway so I didn't know a lot about all the details.
To all the guys that want to call me out, feel free to prove me wrong. If you want to call my streak fake, you can say it here instead of in my back so i will have a chance to defend myself.
Editted: I specifically emphasized that MEGA Zam is the biggest threat btw. I included Zam and Mega Zam in there because it's the same species. I said it wouldn't be so bad if it did not have the focus sash.
Eh to be honest, we all been there.
For example I've ran countless post legend attempts while playing around Fake Out when Incineroar shown up, only to eventually realize Incin34 don't have Fake Out at all.
(Not that my experience counts anything considering I've never had streaks worthy of note anyway, but that stuff happens to everyone)
I didn't realize that Mamoswine didn't show up with Ice Shard later on (or so they said) but apparently those mistakes mean my streak is completely invalid and utterly bullshit lmao
It's the sheer volume of mistakes, along with the sets such as electrium Z Koko and backline sash ash-Greninja that most people agree wouldn't work as well as the normal sets most people run. Also you have no battle videos besides 450 vs plumeria which didn't showcase any of the strengths or weaknesses of your team. I also find it very hard to believe that your battle video won't upload to be honest, and also that you went 1000 battles without any other noteworthy battles that would be worthy of saving and uploading to show here. I would love to believe your team is legit, but all the signs point towards it being bullshit.
Lol. First of all, the fact that you think my streak is bullshit because you think "Oh you don't use this move on this pokemon. My sets are superior to yours. Should've used this move" is completely bullshit.
Second of all, I only used to saving milestones and that reptile dude said "Don't save battles for the sake of saving..." or something along the line so I didn't save much anyway.
If me not being able to upload my videos makes you think my streak is bullshit, I just saved 10 consecutive battles from 1021 to 1031 last night and I will update them when i get home. (They now let me upload the videos)
I'm saying that because every fake streak out there lacks battle videos. As for your sets, convince me why Ash-Gren is better than protean and why Electrium-Z is better than Specs Koko.
Because locking my pokemons into a choice item means I have to switch them out when pokemons that resist the choice locked move switch in? Another important thing is that it makes me vulnerable as I can't use Protect.
It's also why I run Focus Sash over Specs Gren. Protean Gren sucks as its power is underwhelming. The idea behind Ash Gren in the back is to switch in when my pokes are KO'd, claim a kill on a pokemon to get Ash form and get more kills with the boosted power and Focus Sash.
Don't even start mentioning Mat Block as an argument why my sets are trash thus makes my streak bullshit. I would run Mat Block if it's Protean Gren as a lead. But that is not the stratery of mine and I prefer Protect over Mat Block.
It's also why I run Focus Sash over Specs Gren. Protean Gren sucks as its power is underwhelming. The idea behind Ash Gren in the back is to switch in when my pokes are KO'd, claim a kill on a pokemon to get Ash form and get more kills with the boosted power and Focus Sash.
Don't even start mentioning Mat Block as an argument why my sets are trash thus makes my streak bullshit. I would run Mat Block if it's Protean Gren as a lead. But that is not the stratery of mine and I prefer Protect over Mat Block.
Just to add to what Coeur7 wrote above, it's pretty strange that you stopped using the trainer catalogue as the streak got longer. One would expect it to be the other way around - the longer the streak, the more afraid you become of losing, and thus you should play more carefully by looking up sets. Obviously, this doesn't prove anything (I did a ~500 streak myself without knowing any sets in the maison), just something i noticed.