^only until Techniloom is out.
The CB set is going to be in par with the SD set. If you don't believe me go and see Lee's calculations about how it 2hkoes almost anything. They are a few pages behind.I Don't Know how viable a CB set will be because he then can't use spore as effectively and doesn't have U-Turn like Scizor. I Defiantly think the SD set will be by far the most used because I've been trying it out on simulators and it just completely rapes, Any slower Pokemon is just complete set up fodder and I would like to point out you should always go for jolly to catch things like adamant Dragonite and Gyarados.
SD has Spore and Swords Dance, leaving room for only two moves (hint: Breloom will be walled); the CB set has four moves, will wreck shit AND bluff a Spore on the first turn because no one really likes giving Breloom a free turn.It's just if your not using Spore then your not using Breloom to his full potential, why have 1.5x attack and not be abile to switch moves when you could have 2.3x attack, a sleeping Pokemon and the ability to switch moves?
but even a resisted +2 techni-mach/bullet seed will still hurt.SD has Spore and Swords Dance, leaving room for only two moves (hint: Breloom will be walled); the CB set has four moves, will wreck shit AND bluff a Spore on the first turn because no one really likes giving Breloom a free turn.
Because you have the ability to straight-up 2hko almost the whole meta. Both sets are very good but play very different.It's just if your not using Spore then your not using Breloom to his full potential, why have 1.5x attack and not be abile to switch moves when you could have 2.3x attack, a sleeping Pokemon and the ability to switch moves?
Just sac a pokemon for sleep (the least useful one that you can tell from teamviewer) and switch in your powerful special attacker (Latios, Reuniclus, Tornadus, Hydreigon, Offensive Heatran) and you can force it out or kill it.Warning, big rant here.
I'm seriously thinking this little mushroom is overpowered. The only counters to this thing are Gliscor,Espeon/Xatu, and Celebi. Lum berry works only once, allowing his breloom to switch and react, the newer bulk up version has enough special defense to take common special attacks aimed at it (and if not, just spore it on the switch), and tricking a scarf on to it gives you only one shot at doing it. Maybe Breloom isn't overpowered, but the 100% sleep inducing attack with the new generation 5 mechanics is. Some say sleep clause is Breloom's biggest threat and, well, it is. But having a pokemon asleep is left as set up bait, a crippled pokemon (1/6 of your team!) and adds more luck into the metagame by praying you wake up soon. So what i'm asking you guys here is, does anyone counter this thing besides the 4 pokemon mentioned earlier or one of the awful insomnia users?
That's what I have been doing, but its like an instant kill. Whoever you sacrifice is basically out of the game, making the score 6-5. It's not like it stops there, as Breloom can set up and do work on top of that as well.Just sac a pokemon for sleep (the least useful one that you can tell from teamviewer) and switch in your powerful special attacker (Latios, Reuniclus, Tornadus, Hydreigon, Offensive Heatran) and you can force it out or kill it.
What's even more fun is brelooms status immunity.That's what I have been doing, but its like an instant kill. Whoever you sacrifice is basically out of the game, making the score 6-5. It's not like it stops there, as Breloom can set up and do work on top of that as well.
given the powerhouses of OU, he just can't keep up even with the bulk he has right now. Dunno though if techniloom will come out, i believe that'll be a beast.I don't see why breloom died down for a while. He is ridiculously good.
Spore+Sub=Powerhouse either sleeps or eats a focus punch before I switch to a priority user to finish the jobgiven the powerhouses of OU, he just can't keep up even with the bulk he has right now. Dunno though if techniloom will come out, i believe that'll be a beast.
plus a good counter to breloom is fast substitute such as gengar's, that's why i'm not having problems with breloom right now.
of course he is killed easily. the point is that he never has to be vulnerable. Come in on anything slower or unthreatening, spore, sub and you are set to take on the switchin (or if they stay in, rinse and repeat)what i mean is breloom has hard time switching in in this current meta..i'm wrong probably but i found him easily 2hko'ed by any strong OUs.
5 other pokes and/or by then, loom has caused enough damage as either gengae is sleeping (ie, can't sub or disable cuz its gunna die) or something else is sleeping (and other things are likelydead)+1 or +2 seed bomb should ohko gengar..but the sub+disable set of gengar kills breloom.
you forgot gengar is faster than breloom. loom can't spore him behind subs.5 other pokes and/or by then, loom has caused enough damage as either gengae is sleeping (ie, can't sub or disable cuz its gunna die) or something else is sleeping (and other things are likelydead)
I don't think that the idea of SubPunch Breloom is to switch in too often, it's one of those Pokemon where you switch it in only when it's safe, expect it to void one of your opponent's Pokemon (either by sleep or SubPunch) and hope for a second to go as well. Then Breloom's job is done, and you just use it for SubPunch and Seed Bomb spamming (likely Seed Bomb spam just incase you live long enough to fire off an attack after your sub is gone).what i mean is breloom has hard time switching in in this current meta..i'm wrong probably but i found him easily 2hko'ed by any strong OUs.
I meant that you have 5 other pokes to deal with gar or breloom spores on the switch or is already behind a sub, seed bomb breakd gar's subs so loom wins.you forgot gengar is faster than breloom. loom can't spore him behind subs.