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Bug report for Gen 8 Triple kick interaction

So I was doing a run Of Pokemon R&B which has Gen 8 mechanics and I noticed that the calc said triple kick kill when in game it did not. I got curious and came and tried it with the showdown calc, and the same thing, Triple kick killed on the calc and not in the game. It looks like technician isn't activating on triple kick - that's my best guess. Attached is a replay showing a range where on the calc said it was killed and it did not. I also have a screenshot of the calc.

I'm not sure if this is the intended interaction, Have not tested it in game, one way or the other, either the calc is incorrect, or the game is.

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whats going on with swamperts hp here?

BUG STATUS: NEEDS MORE INFO: need a replay where this happens and/or specific steps to reproduce :furret:
 
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Not sure if this is a bug but this should be addressed. Evasion moves are supposed to be banned in doubles ou, but it seems there are ways to sneak through the evasion clause. Using Contrary ability and Defog makes evasion go up and if we cant use evasion moves, why should this be ok to use?

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9doublesou-1921139733-ozkrcp83bhdedk6o4qoknvh3z7ddb16pw

BUG STATUS: WRONG PLACE
:furret: This is more of a tiering question so should be discussed in the DOU forum, or Policy Review if you want to get super serious.
 
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/movesearch for zacian-c/zama-c only gives back the behemoth moves, instead of the whole movepool


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BUG STATUS: FIXED (#9951)
 
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I would like to report a bug in the team legality checker. Dynamic Punch + Iron Fist is not legal on gen 4 Hitmonchan, but my team doesn't get flagged for attempting to use it. Dynamic Punch is a move tutor in Emerald which Hitmonchan can learn, but Tyrogue can't. In order for a Pokemon that was migrated from gen 3 to gain a gen 4 ability, it needs to be able to evolve after migration, which is why Softboiled + Magic Guard is legal on Clefable. The blindspot in the checker seems to be for move + ability combinations where the move is a tutor exclusive from gen 3 compatible with a fully evolved Pokemon but not its earlier forms and the ability is one that was introduced in gen 4

BUG STATUS: FIXED (#9750)
 
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Bug report for Mega Evolution behavior when fainting (and kinda Revival Blessing).

Currently in Showdown, when a Pokémon Mega Evolves, faints, then is revived by Revival Blessing, they come back in their mega form. This is relevant to National Dex formats; see this replay here.

This behavior is incorrect. In the games where Mega Evolved Pokémon are present, they are reverted back to their base forms upon fainting. I broke out my old dusty 3DS to record this. Notice that Alakazam is reverted from Mega to normal upon fainting, and is regarded as non-mega Alakazam while fainted and upon being revived.

Now, I know that the in-game Revive item and Revival Blessing are not the same thing, though they are exactly the same in function. However, that should make no difference. There's no argument that Revival Blessing could possibly retain Mega Evolution when the Revive item wouldn't, since it's not the Revive item that reverts the Pokémon back to its base form, but rather the act of fainting. Revival Blessing should be targeting a base form Alakazam or Charizard, not a Mega Alakazam or Charizard.

I think what happened here is that while the "Mega -> base" reversion upon fainting has been a thing since generation 6, Showdown's developers had no reason to implement it since there have been no means of reviving Pokémon in competitive play until Scarlet and Violet. When Gen 9 Natdex came around, the fact that Mega Pokémon are reverted upon fainting got overlooked, allowing Pokémon to be revived while still Mega Evolved.

According to Bulbapedia, Ash Greninja and Ultra Necrozma also revert to their base forms upon fainting. I'm not sure how these are treated in Showdown, but those might be worth testing as well, and there might be other form reversions that may have been overlooked (Zygarde Complete? Minior? Eiscui? I dunno).

BUG STATUS: CONFIRMED - Legality
 
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Guardian6969 said:
I've encountered what I think is a bug in gen6 hackmon with Arceus: after noticing something strange during some battles I've done tests and I've seen that if you choose an Arceus of any type (let's say electro or ghost type for example) even if you see it as type you chose, the game still sees it as a normal-type Pokémon, so if you give your Arceus wonder guard, the moves that are supposed to hit (following the example earth-type or Dark-type moves) are blocked and only the fighting-type moves are able to do damage; Maybe there's something I don't know since I'm no expert but I don't think that's the way things are supposed to go

here's the link of a test i did: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen6purehackmons-1926036662-qnuvcxjbzqfefhzdyzc2le5tsewixkppw
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This is just how Arceus and Silvally worked before Gen 8 where they had to have the right ability and item to actually change type from Normal. It is noted in Arceus's Gen 6 BH analysis that this mechanic can be used to trick people by selecting different sprites.
 
I have a bug that has been bothering me recently especially with this team that I have been trying to build around. If a pokemon with a Weather setting ability holding an eject pack gets intimidated at the beginning of its turn of switching in. The ability never activates and is forced to switch immediately. However, on cart, you still get intimidated and forced out BUT you also activate weather. It's something I've seen with Torkoal/Aboma on ladder, but does not work that way on cart.

This is an example replay of me recreating it.

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2023regulationd-1926481091

A fix to this would be nice! It really changes the dynamic of how the team plays if it works differently on showdown then on cart.

BUG STATUS: CONFIRMED - MECHANICS (SERVER) this is a known bug (DaWoblefet)
 
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Playing with Force of the Fallen mod here. Moves donated by fallen allies are clickable by Choice item users (even when they're supposed to be locked into another move), but they fail upon use. Also, the Speed boost from Tailwind still displays even after its effect has worn off (functionally, it works as intended).

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9multirandombattle-1928019732

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(locked into Thunderbolt)

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(move failed despite the 3 potential targets/other Pokemon staying on the field until the end of the turn)
 
Hi, I think this is a bug, I'm unsure, I can't find any alternative explanations.
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In this (downloaded) replay, at the last turn, Shellder does 53% to itself in confusion damage. According to Bulbapedia, "Confusion damage is calculated as if it were a typeless physical move with a power of 40; it cannot score a critical hit, and does not receive STAB."If that statement is true, then the calc says that Shellder should only do a maximum of 47% in confusion damage:
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Kipkluif said:
Hi, I think this is a bug, I'm unsure, I can't find any alternative explanations.View attachment 545191In this (downloaded) replay, at the last turn, Shellder does 53% to itself in confusion damage. According to Bulbapedia, "Confusion damage is calculated as if it were a typeless physical move with a power of 40; it cannot score a critical hit, and does not receive STAB."If that statement is true, then the calc says that Shellder should only do a maximum of 47% in confusion damage:
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Eviolite does not affect confusion damage.
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sword-shield-battle-mechanics-research.3655528/post-8843892
  • Huge Power, Power Spot, Helping Hand, Eviolite etc. doesn't change the amount of damage the user takes
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Hello. I got someone to report this bug on my behalf on 1st July 2023 because it is a bug/glitch that almost cost me a rank game. Today 2 months later I almost lost another ranked game because of this bug. Its incredibly frustrating because this bug is quite serious, especially since the move revival blessing and revival blessing stall teams are becoming popular in National Dex OU.

The Bug.
Long story short, once a pokemon has been revived by revival blessing, it is completely immune to pursuit for 1 turn. Imagine it as the pokemon has 1 free pass, it can switch in, use its "free pass" then switch out safetly for free and ignore pursuit. If that pokemon comes back in and the opponent pursuits again, then pursuit will function normally.

Testing.
Myself and other users, including a RO have tested it together and have replicated the bug easily on every try. The last person to report this bug summarised it nicely in his post, so please have a look below at the tests we did.

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https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen9nationaldex-1895480597
Somebody came up in NDOU with that replay, they thought the turn 8 Pursuit asked weirdly so I'm reporting that for them.

Kennedit: someone tested this a few times here if that helps give more information:
https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen9nationaldex-1895523633-7pxr22zvyo0oxtnsegxqqmn9k7ca4pqpw
https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen9nationaldex-1895515272-w68ntk7yrbeoeofwsefs88lgkhvxe9jpw

It seems like after a pokemon is revived by revival blessing, the first time they are switched in, they are able to switch out freely even if the opposing pokemon uses pursuit. If they are switched in after escaping pursuit the first time, they are hit normally.
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The sob story.
Here is the battle I almost lost today. Me tyranitar. They mega-banette. Me click pursuit. Mega-Banette escape. Me pursuit Moltress. Me burned.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9nationaldex-1928660083 (See turn 39)

Please fix this bug. Pursuit is essential to stopping stall teams, especially ones that spam revival blessing.

BUG STATUS: FIXED (#9735)
 
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https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9customgame-1928775613

This may be a niche interaction given Revival Blessing normally has 1 PP, but Sleep Talk + Revival Blessing does not always properly display the revived Pokemon upon use. This happens from the second use (from when the Sleep Talk user is on the field) onwards. On Turn 31, 47, 49, 51~52, 92, 111~113, and 115~117, there was no change to the Pokemon displayed as healthy/fainted even when Sleep Talk --> Revival Blessing was used. By Turn 111 (didn't keep track before then) the actual displayed Pokemon were wrong, e.g. 4 Zacian-C are displayed on my team when only 3 are shown at the start of the battle.

e: turn 74, Beat Up hits 18 times while there are <18 mons displayed as healthy/not fainted

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https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9purehackmons-1928803548

This happens in Pure Hackmons (and presumably other 6 mon metas) too, and this is relevant because running 3+ Regieleki is considered a valid team archetype in PH.

BUG STATUS: FIXED (#2142)
:furret: thanks for reporting!
 
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In Pokémon SV, when you hard-switch Paradox + Booster Energy on Sticky Web, Sticky Web's drop effect applies first. In Pokémon Showdown, Booster Energy triggers first.

And when you safe-switch in SV, the Sticky Web's drop effect applies first. And in Pokémon Showdown, the official order of actions has been well coded for safe-switch


Pokémon Showdown replay for effect of the Sticky : https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-1929201479-ohni40psl4sdpctylducxxihhitp95ipw
SV replay for effect of the Sticky (console) :

(Sorry for my bad English, it's not my native language)
 
I have found a bug with Tinkatink in Natdex LC. It can't learn knock off when it could previously. https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9natdexdraft-1898325716 Here is a link of me using it on turn 11. The reason behind it is because knock off is a level up move but in Scarlet and Violet there are no male parents in the fairy egg group that could help tinkatink learn the move knock off as an egg move, but in natdex there are, and for some reason now it can no longer use it when it could only a few months ago
 
Random Roulette is a format that chooses a random battle from gen 1 - 9. However, what happens if you add a rule that would make some conditions create an "illegal" scenario?
ForceMonotype=Ghost and it rolls gen 1 >>> Each players team consists of Gastly, Haunter and Gengar
ForceMonotype=Ghost and it rolls gen 2 >>> Each players team consists of Misdreavus and Gengar
Etc.
Whether or not this is fine as an intended feature, I do not know.

The main bug that I wish to report however is using ForceMonotype=Fairy.
What happens is Random Roulette is able to roll a pre gen 6 format and generate a normal team.
Unown (Unown-L) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Levitate
Hidden Power: Psychic
EVs: 85 HP / 85 Def / 85 SpA / 85 SpD / 85 Spe
IVs: 2 Atk / 30 Spe
- Hidden Power [Psychic]

Togekiss @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
Level: 82
EVs: 85 HP / 85 Def / 85 SpA / 85 SpD / 85 Spe
IVs: 0 Atk
- Air Slash
- Nasty Plot
- Aura Sphere
- Roost

Vanilluxe @ Life Orb
Ability: Weak Armor
Level: 90
Hidden Power: Ground
EVs: 85 HP / 85 Atk / 85 Def / 85 SpA / 85 SpD / 85 Spe
IVs: 30 SpA / 30 SpD
- Ice Beam
- Explosion
- Autotomize
- Hidden Power [Ground]

Mamoswine @ Choice Band
Ability: Thick Fat
Level: 79
EVs: 85 HP / 85 Atk / 85 Def / 85 SpA / 85 SpD / 85 Spe
- Earthquake
- Icicle Crash
- Superpower
- Ice Shard

Arceus @ Leftovers
Ability: Multitype
Level: 72
EVs: 85 HP / 85 Atk / 85 Def / 85 SpA / 85 SpD / 85 Spe
- Swords Dance
- Recover
- Earthquake
- Extreme Speed

Jirachi @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
Level: 79
EVs: 85 HP / 85 Atk / 85 Def / 85 SpA / 85 SpD / 85 Spe
- Ice Punch
- Substitute
- Iron Head
- Wish

I would think that if Random Roulette has forcemonotype=fairy as a rule, it would recognize that, and would not choose a pre gen 6 format.

Edit: This specific format is being permanently removed in 5 days anyways so kekw

:furret: this is normal for og monorands anyway
 
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Had a very odd set of interactions with my opponent's doodle and my skill swap. It's hard to describe because I'm not 100% sure exactly what happened, but I'm pretty sure the abilities the pokemon had did not match the abilities the tool tip and messages/chat log said they had in multiple instances.

Replay


Edit: Have found that after using skill swap on tinkaton, its mold breaker doesn't get changed in the ui until the new ability (dancer) is activated. Might be intended, at least from the opponent's view, but it doesn't update on my end either, even in the tooltip attached to the switch-in button.
Not sure if this is the entire bug from before, or if it's another bug that interacted with the first, but here ya go

Replay
 
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Trying to use the "Import from text or URL" function doesn't work at all if any of the Pokemon have Hidden Power.

The Pokepaste URL will add the teamname, but won't add any other team data if ANY of the Pokemon use Hidden Power. Right now, the only way to import older gen teams is to remove Hidden Power from the mons kits and then manually add them back.

Bug Example 1
Bug Example 2

You'll notice that neither of these teams can be imported unless you remove HP Bug from the Heracross

BUG STATUS: CONFIRMED - TEAMBUILDER, a fix has been merged and it is waiting to be applied (DaWoblefet)
 
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hellorosawolke said:
Trying to use the "Import from text or URL" function doesn't work at all if any of the Pokemon have Hidden Power.

The Pokepaste URL will add the teamname, but won't add any other team data if ANY of the Pokemon use Hidden Power. Right now, the only way to import older gen teams is to remove Hidden Power from the mons kits and then manually add them back.

Bug Example 1
Bug Example 2

You'll notice that neither of these teams can be imported unless you remove HP Bug from the Heracross
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Related to this, I've also noticed that on the windows app, the teambuilder will be stuck loading forever if you have a mon with hidden power on ANY of your teams. The website seems to handle it fine, but this will be a big inconvenience to almost all users of the windows app.
 
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