CAP 10 CAP 10 - Sprite Submissions

[m190049]

Is it just me or does it sort of look like the antennae are coming out of the right side of its head?

m190049, my comments stem mostly just from aesthetic preferences. I find the eyes are proportionally a bit too small for the size of the head and that the antennae could stand to be separated from each other a bit. The new antennae bulbs however are an improvement over the first.

Don't know how I didn't notice it, but, the antennae were are definitely pushed to the side.

Also, I stared at it a bit, and I think you were right, Cartoons!, the eye did feel a bit small. I tried rectifying it, and it looked pretty off no matter what I tried to do to fix it, though I think I got it, kinda...

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How does it look now?
Could probably stand to move the Antenna a little bit more...

Hm...Comparing it to some of the others...
Does it look a bit too "pink"?
It looks fine when you look at it by itself for a while...
Though when you see it to all the others, it seems pretty bright.


Also, one thing I felt like doing on a whim:
Like Doug, I usually save certain "jump points" of making my sprite, as I do it.
So, I decided, why not do the same as him make an animation of them?

It's pretty cool seeing it be drawn step by step like that.

It's true, the eyes are a bit blockish. I tried making them bigger but didn't like how it looked. How does it look with more rounded edges?
http://ivnbvn.com/pixels/shrimps3.png -> http://ivnbvn.com/pixels/shrimps_small eye.png

I think you pulled it off rather well! In fact, when you compare the two, side by side, It almost seems like the original was TOO big.

I've begun work on the backsprite and am wondering what the best way to frame it would be.
http://ivnbvn.com/pixels/shrimps_back1.png http://ivnbvn.com/pixels/shrimps_back2.png http://ivnbvn.com/pixels/shrimps_back3.png
full body -- bottom cut -- mostly cut

The sprite still needs some cleaning up, but I'm wondering which of these you think offers the best presentation.

I think full body looks a bit large and mostly cut is way too small; bottom cut definitely the best of the three. Though, I was also thinking that a spot right between bottom and mostly cut might look pretty good as well. Like if the bottom part of it's right claw was cut off, but not the whole thing.

 

[Rising_Dusk]

How does it look with more rounded edges?

It looks much better with the rounded eyes. I was going to bring that up before, but I forgot about it. Definitely stick with rounded, looks much more natural.

http://i42.tinypic.com/358xblz.jpg

I like the antenna glow on the shiny version, but the blue isn't that exciting, despite looking pretty darn good. I really liked the idea that Dragonzrule went with, going for a death and doom shrimp coloring. It doesn't have to look like a real life shrimp coloring if you don't want it to, as "artistic license" pretty much allows anything. I think you might find the white a bit underwhelming (I do), so I recommend checking out some other options if you want to. The turquoise seems like it could be excellent for the lightning decals on the shrimp were left yellow. Of course, a dark gray base color with yellow decals shrimp would be about the most amazing hot-rod coloring scheme ever.

http://ivnbvn.com/pixels/shrimps_back2.png

Absolutely the middle one. It shows enough of the shrimp so you actually know which Pokemon it is, but doesn't show too much and looks more like every other Pokemon back sprite with a bit cut off. I say go with "bottom cut."

http://i44.tinypic.com/10onvy9_th.png

Lookin' great, but I have a few suggestions. The left antenna is still underneath the left claw, which makes him look like he's grooming himself and being in general quite unexciting. If you moved it over the claw, that'd be excellent. Furthermore, the eyes look very strange when they're pink; you should make the eye sclera white. You might also want to experiment with a slightly thinner set of antennae, as right now they're quite thick.

 

[Arch]

The dithering does look good, dont listen to them XD, but I think you should add some shading to the eyes, they kinda look bad ath the moment, add more shadeing in the outline of the eye too...

And thank you HD :D

It's a shrimp, not a furby.
Considering this pokemon is surrounded by a shell, dithering is even more unecessary. Being an aquatic pokemon alone should be reason enough to not have dithering.

 

[DougJustDoug]

I tweaked the eyes a bit, and tried to make them a little less prominent than before -- but still retained some expression and personality.

I also am continuing to experiment with shiny colors, since several people were not totally thrilled with my purple shiny tribute to Lanturn. I'm still considering the purple, but I've tried several other schemes as well. Here are the top three that I am currently considering:

 

[Dragonzrule]

Alright, revision number two.

 

[Banryu]

I tweaked the eyes a bit, and tried to make them a little less prominent than before -- but still retained some expression and personality.

I also am continuing to experiment with shiny colors, since several people were not totally thrilled with my purple shiny tribute to Lanturn. I'm still considering the purple, but I've tried several other schemes as well. Here are the top three that I am currently considering:

If I had to pick one of these, I'd say the green, but I'd like to see the yellow part of all of these be a little more drastically different. Scepticallistic's bloodred colored shrimp with sea-green luminescence is still my favorite alternate palette so far.

Also, I personally happen to like your older eyes better. I agree with Cartoons and M19 about the charm of the 'blank, Paras-like look' of the eyes, and I don't think yours needed that changed.

That's just my opinion, of course, apparently someone else had a different one, you just need to decide which one YOU think is best. I think deciding that for yourself is what's most important in that regard, since the sprite is yours after all.

(BTW, quick question... we're allowed to have the full image quoted in this thread instead of a link, right? I understand the importance of quoting a link instead of an image in the Art Submission thread, but since these are so much smaller, it's not necessary, is it? :0)

 

[pux]

LOVE Cartoons' ones. I think the blank eyes definitely make it endearing and add another touch of humourous irony to the fact that this teensy little shrimp could fuck your shit up. I agree that the bottom cut backsprite looks the best. Also maybe try making your shiny a bit more extreme - I'm not a fan of similarly-coloured shinies... what's the point?

 

[Banryu]

Sorry for the again-recent almost-double post, but...

I'm not a fan of similarly-coloured shinies... what's the point?

I totally agree with this and it factors into what I was saying about Sceptical's shiny. More extremity with the shiny palettes, plz.

 

[SwimMercola]

I also am continuing to experiment with shiny colors, since several people were not totally thrilled with my purple shiny tribute to Lanturn. I'm still considering the purple, but I've tried several other schemes as well. Here are the top three that I am currently considering:

The green is stunning in my opinion but I would recommend making the yellow either black or purple. A glowing jet black detailing would be very cool.

 

[Gamer128]

Doug: Blue with orange scheme. Not exactly the one you posted, but make the flashes more orange. I don't know how orange it should be, though. Do you mind if I take it and try it out?

EDIT: As much as I already tried, nothing with my basic knowledge of recolors helped me change that yellow to orange. I guess I should've decreased luminosity or something. Try it yourself, you would be better off.

 

[Danikolt]

DougJustDoug

This is my favourite sprite so far. It almost perfectly matches the art design. However, i still prefer the original, cuter eyes. Also, perhaps the tip at the front of its head could point a little more upward, like in the artwork.

The purple shiny is my favourite, and i hope you stick with it.

Cartoons!

I like this sprite too. The new eyes are a definite improvement.

Of the back sprites, i prefer the bottom cut, but i agree with what others have said about its eye.

 

[Chaoscrippler]

I'm not entirely pleased with my sprite and the amount of feedback to begin the backsprite, so here's another attempt. The sprite is slightly larger (and less cluttered) with a new color pallet as well. How does this look?

 

[Gamer128]

The only realistic sprites I see for CAP10 are Doug's and Cartoons!'s. The sprites have to be small. If they aren't, it doesn't fit the shrimp Pokemon, and it doesn't really show that it's amazing how a little shrimp can take something down.

Though I do agree that bigger shrimp should have more HP, I never really paid attention to the stat spread discussion. v_v

 

[SinisterSamurai]

Cartoons!
Mostly Cut is my preference. I know the backsprite is a WIP, but the carapace seems bulging. There's very little shape indention in the curve of Shrimpuclese's back. It looks kinda like a smooth contour, rather than a chitinous shell made of thick, overlapping pieces. The eyes are bugging out on me, too, but I know that they way they are now pretty much accurately matches AB's design.

DougJustDoug
Blue shiny is the boldest and the least eye-straining. Blue and yellow are a little more complementary than lavender and lime.

m190049
You asked for any comments, so here are mine.
As of the most recent incarnation, you fixed most of the problems. It looks like a technically sound sprite, I just don't care for the pose.

Chaoscrippler:
I don't think CAP10 has pincers.

 

[Gray [old]]

It's true, the eyes are a bit blockish. I tried making them bigger but didn't like how it looked. How does it look with more rounded edges?

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m190049, my comments stem mostly just from aesthetic preferences. I find the eyes are proportionally a bit too small for the size of the head and that the antennae could stand to be separated from each other a bit. The new antennae bulbs however are an improvement over the first.

I've begun work on the backsprite and am wondering what the best way to frame it would be.

full body -- bottom cut -- mostly cut

The sprite still needs some cleaning up, but I'm wondering which of these you think offers the best presentation.

This is absolutely fantastic, gotta say. My favorite of the thread. I'm partial to the full body, just because the more you can see of any art, the better IMO. But, like someone said, the backsprite's eyes seem a bit off. They could use some shading, dithering, or what-have-you.

And I like the dithering.

 

[Pink]

Chaosscrippler, I LOVE your shiny pallet. It's really awesome. Otherwise, I like your new pose a lot as well. Good work.

Cartoons!, I prefer not cut for the backsprite.

 

[Rising_Dusk]

http://i42.tinypic.com/9h0y0g.jpg

I liked the other pose a lot more. This one makes him look like he's dead and sprawling out or like he's trying to fly. Also, for the record, he seems too angled, like he'll be looking off in the distance during an actual Pokemon battle.

http://i39.tinypic.com/13z2znl_th.png

Getting there. The outer part of the eyes really should be white, otherwise they blend into the rest of the sprite too well. I also feel that you used far too dark a palette for the antenna stalks; they're darker than the entire rest of the sprite for no reason.

 

[SJCrew]

The only realistic sprites I see for Krilowatt CAP10 are Doug's and Cartoons!'s. The sprites have to be small. If they aren't, it doesn't fit the shrimp Pokemon, and it doesn't really show that it's amazing how a little shrimp can take something down.

Personally, I don't really care for that mindset, since it doesn't actually register when you're battling. Shaymin and Celebi are tiny chia pet/fairy Grass Pokemon and intended to be legendaries, but when it comes in while my Gyarados DDs and I don't have Bounce, I'm like "Oh shit, it looks like I'm about to get countered. Better switch." Seeing as this Pokemon and we're used to seeing all kinds of weird shit, watching a shrimp take down multiple giant dragons is just a walk in the park.

So basically, the question here is, "Which looks better a smaller sprite or a medium-sized sprite?"

I would prefer the latter, simply because it seems far less ridiculous that we're considering this thing an actual Pokemon, much less a fully evolved one. Some of the smaller sprites in this thread have this distinct quality of looking more like shrimp than shrimp Pokemon, and I think we all want to avoid that. So I don't think it's too far out of bounds to suggest that entries like Doug's aren't exactly what we're looking for.

Another thing I'd like to point out is that some of the eyes in these sprites are really bad. I really think everyone needs to start whiting them out and making sure their overall shape and form are acceptable before releasing them to the public. They might have been overlooked for the time being in favor of other details and that's understandable, but please get them fixed ASAP. It's really hard to look at otherwise.

 

[MofoAmbulance]

Forgot a few things on revision 1, so I added them and a second pose for animation, along with a shiny version.

I'd really appreciate any C+C.

 

[Objection]

The major problem with your sprites MofoAmbulance is that the outlines look very rough. It looks like you decided to go with dark outlines for x amount of pixels and bright outlines for y amount. The whole thing makes your lines look choppy.

 

[Boingboingsplat]

normal

shiny

messed around with colors a bit more, orange looks good on the shiny...took your advice aqueos...now the antenna are more like the picture...

Looks pretty good, but the shading on it's yellow marks kind of urks me. They're supposed to be bioluminescent, and if they are glowing it wouldn't make much sense for them to have shadows on them.

 

[ShyGuyUltimate]

So far my favorite is Cartoons!. But my suggestion to anyone making a tiny sprite is to make a bit bigger so it isn't mistaken for a pink dot.

P.S. if i have artistic license can i make electro-shrimp falcon punching?

 

[DougJustDoug]

Minor tweaks to my front sprite, and I have developed a back sprite.

 

[viol and bass]

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/6191/back05.png

I like it overall but when I saw it, I thought it was some sort of upside-down creature at first. It took a couple seconds for me to figure out where the head was.

 

[Gamer128]

Doug, the front sprite has basically gotten my vote, if that helps. The back sprite, however, only has one issue. It seems as if the front legs are attached onto the head of Krilowa...err...CAP10, making it look more like a head design that legs. Maybe some better separation of the two parts?