Civil War is the top-selling event of the decade, and it is shit. All those comics I listed are good, but overrated and mostly intro stuff for newbies. Moore's best work is not Watchmen. It's Swamp Thing.How you can call some of the top selling comic series of all time shit is a bit beyond me.
i found the gratuitous corniness to be part of its charm. it's what made it still feel like a superhero comic to me.McNiven's pencils are good in OML. The plot would almost be interesting, but Millar's work is too over-the top for me. Spider-bitch, really? DKR is still fucking amazing though.
.___________________________________________.Does anyone here read comics? BESIDES shit like Watchmen, Walking Dead, or Scott Pilgrim? Any Grant Morrison fans here? Or has anyone read Asterios Polyp? LOEG?
Ehh, his novel work is pretty great, and all of his Death stuff is amazing.Neil Gaiman's "Sandman" is essentially the only work of his you ever need to read.
I highly disagree that modern super-hero comics are kid stuff, disemboweling people, killing kids, having orgies, ect., are not stuff things that strike me as child-friendly.I really disagree regarding Moore, I think V for Vendetta was his best work, but that's really a matter of opinion.
I liked Earth X from Marvel a lot when I read it a few years ago in a book store. But, you really needed to know who the characters were beforehand to "get" the story. Luckily, I grew up with comicbooks, so I found it really easy to get into and enjoyed it immensely. As far as "post-current continuity" series go, Earth X is probably my favorite. It got a little ridiculous with the Celestial/Galactus stuff, but nothing is perfect.
I also like the Ultimate imprint of Marvel. While I haven't read past volume 1 of Ultimate X-Men, I read the first 3 or 4 volumes of The Ultimates and loved it. I felt like the characters were much deeper than their 1960 counterparts. Captain America trying to fit into modern culture on his one day and kicking the shit out of nazi aliens was really cool obviously, but I liked the angle of being a superhero just being a job with a government. Ultimate Spider-Man was fun too, if only because I like the little soap operas that form any continuity's Peter Parker's life. I don't keep current with comics really, so I don't know what happened after Harry died but whatever.
I also like the original Silver Surfer series from the 1960s, the one from BEFORE when he was treated like normal superheroes. If you haven't read it, then I definitely suggest looking into it. It may not be quite as deep as later works, but the Silver Surfer character is a lot deeper there than he is when they decided to let him just be a cosmic badass in the 80s. His godlike powers contrasted with his childlike innocence and eloquent philosophical spoutings make him really intriguing to me. The book luckily was canceled before it got TOO too repetitive, but he does manage to fail to escape Earth every single issue.
The original Proteus sequence from the "new" X-Men (as in the ones that had Thunderbird) was also really cool imo. Proteus was kind of a cool way to get across the whole "people are really small" theme that Marvel loved back in the day without having to resort to giant purple godmen who snacked on planets.
And I fucking loved Watchmen !_!
As a kid I read my dad's old comics from the 60s, 70s, and 80s. My favorites were Iron Man, the Avengers, Spider-Man, X-Men, Fantastic Four, and Metal Men. The normal kid stuff.
Ennis is great, and you're from CA? I used to post a lot on CBR and Jinxworld.ohhhhh boy.
some pearls have already been exposed; but who here has read anything by garth ennis? irish dark funny man. wrote preacher, which i consider to be a comic masterpiece, lots and lots of punisher under the mature imprint MAX where he went with the most basic idea of the punisher as a white and black immoral serial killer, and puts him on a more 'realistic' (i dont like using this word with comics but) tone, killing people trafficers, pedophile rings and some darker stuff. he also wrote the very underrated hitman run on DC.
garth ennis is currently writing the boys, which i feel is a brilliant book - it's a deconstruction on the super hero world stuff, where you find yourself rooting for the crazy psychopaths because the heroes are much worse. it's full of shock moments, and people say they dislike ennis for all the swearing and violence, but most of his violent bits are not only crazy awesome but also make a point, not being just gratuitous violence. highly suggest.
punisher
the boys
warren ellis is also one of my favorite writers. wrote nextwave, which is probably the funniest superhero comic to date, and transmetropolitan, which plays like this: hunter s- thompson. on the future. being a badass journalist. go read, it is amazing and gripping from beginning to end.
nextwave
transmetropolitan
speaking of alan moore, did anyone here read his run on top 10? it is very cool stuff too, about a world where everyone is a superhero and you read the adventures of the police in a world like that. chockful of references.
also i am loving grant morrisson's story on batman, as confusing as it may be. big comicsalliance reader here.
The first maybe, uh, 70 chapters of Ultimate Spiderman was pretty good. Was a really enjoyable read. After that it got pretty bad.
Favorite graphic novel would have to be Long Halloween, though. Best Batman I've read. Dark Victory was good, but I don't think it compared.
As you can tell, I don't delve into comics all that often, and when I do, it's pretty mainstream. Oh well.
Never said it wasn't, but Moore's other work is on par or better with it. Like "From Hell" for example. The only thing that was horrible that he's written is the Killing Joke..___________________________________________.
I fucking love that book, it is amazing.
Yeah, obviously I've read and loved those books too.I think he used the word "shit" as a synonym for "stuff." I don't think he was calling any of those comics "shit."
Expand your horizons. Read We3, From Hell, Y the Last Man, Runaways, Asterios Polyp, Joe the Barbarian, and Promethea.That's good, because those are by far my favorites of all time...Like literally those three...
His other stuff is good for sure, but a lot of the idea he uses in his other work are showcased in Sandman. You get enjoyment from reading his other stuff, but you don't actually 'miss' anything if you've read the entirety of Sandman.Ehh, his novel work is pretty great, and all of his Death stuff is amazing.