Duy - I agree, but there's one major problem with that. Look at all the stories of illegal EV's last year and this year - Alaka's 511, Huy's 512 and for54years' 514 at Seattle, the 510 SpA EV's Mewtwo person at (Dallas?), and other stories that we never heard about.Just saying, you guys should have a better reason to call for one. Marriland told me that every time he was called for a hack check, he asked why and people never gave him a good response. A good player should know how much damage something should do to another monster. I saw a player ask for a hack check just because he lost to a legit opponent, and it is pretty insulting to the other player in my opinion if you ask for a hack check. You basically think that they cheated you and don't deserve that victory that they've earned fair and square. Does TPCi need a better hack check system? Yes. But it is also not the best thing to ask for a hack check just because you lost. It's stupid and honestly shows that you're a sore loser and are trying your best to advance to the next round on. When I lost, I just left it as what it is since everything seemed clean and the other player outplayed me. You should only call hack checks when something seems fishy to you, not just because you lost. Just saying...
It is possible - directly doing it in Pokesav, and I believe there's an AR code that allows you to bypass the 510 EV limit. I haven't done too much with the latter, so I have no idea if it's possible to get, say, 510 in a single stat by using Vitamin EV'ing codes; however, the normal Vitamin for EV's code allows you to get ridiculously high EV totals without a code to ignore the cap (so you'd have 1200+ EV's)I don't think 510 in a single stat is possible, hack or not.
At any rate, I think asking for a hack check is usually less insulting to the other player than attributing the loss to luck.
I am sure that this situation will come up quite often, but it will ultimately make the game fair for all players.ulti's imagination said:TPCI Rep: Can i please have your Team Info Sheet and your game cartrage?
Player: Sure, here you go...
TPCI Rep: *Puts game into checking device, and checks the sheet*
If the team passes:
TPCI Rep: Everything checks out, please proceed to the play area.
If the team Fails:
TPCI Rep: I am sorry sir, but there is an error with your team and are required to switch your Kyogre for a different Pokemon, Fill out a new Team Info Sheet, and go to the end of the registration line.
Player: WHAT?!?! Why?
TPCI Rep: Because your Kyogre came up as invalid, because it came from an external device.
Player: *Redface* That is bull crap! I never cheat!
TPCI Rep: I never said you did, but your kyogre did came from an outside device. Please change your team, and come back when it has been changed so i can check it again.
Player: FINE *Storms off*
I agree with you on the sense of honor and respect towards the other player, but not in the sense of the possibility that the player used codes to modify their Pokemon to a legal extent, but messed up by having 512 EV's (which doesn't matter in-game). is it the players fault for having that? yeah, and they should probably be penalized for it.Just saying, you guys should have a better reason to call for one. Marriland told me that every time he was called for a hack check, he asked why and people never gave him a good response. A good player should know how much damage something should do to another monster. I saw a player ask for a hack check just because he lost to a legit opponent, and it is pretty insulting to the other player in my opinion if you ask for a hack check. You basically think that they cheated you and don't deserve that victory that they've earned fair and square. Does TPCi need a better hack check system? Yes. But it is also not the best thing to ask for a hack check just because you lost. It's stupid and honestly shows that you're a sore loser and are trying your best to advance to the next round on. When I lost, I just left it as what it is since everything seemed clean and the other player outplayed me. You should only call hack checks when something seems fishy to you, not just because you lost. Just saying...
I agree that's actually a good idea. I know that Marriland has a hack-checking DS, and if the check-in folk used that (if there are multiples) at the beginning, it would save a lot of time and prevent a lot of players who hack right off the bat. And it would save time through-out the tournament.Personally - what would get rid of hack checks during the rounds...make it mandatory as part of registration!
Here is how i see it could happen with a person:
I am sure that this situation will come up quite often, but it will ultimately make the game fair for all players.
Thoughts?
Agreed. TPCi needs to develop an anti-cheating policy with more teeth. I'd point out that there are other forms of cheating other than hacking, and those too need to be addressed.One thing I will say is that the penalty for cheating is ridiculous. Tournament DQ is almost nothing. Make the penalty a season DQ and I think it would cut down on the hacking. The card game takes a very dim view of cheaters and penalties can be harsh. I don't see why the video game gives a slap on the wrist.
Of course. It all depends too on the severity and type of offense. I mean, there's the person with 511 EVs and the person with four shinies and blow-out EVs in each stat.I wouldn't say that a life-time ban is necessary. Perhaps a graduated banning system. First time, 1 year ban, 2nd time is a 2 year ban, etc.
A life-time ban just seems overkill to me. After each offense it would make sense to increase the sentence accordingly, rather than an entire cut-off. You only live once, after all. lol
Both are irresponsible.One was simply careless and didn't mean to gain a competitive advantage, the other is simply malicious.
They're both irresponsible which makes a difference in the end, true.Both are irresponsible.
I dunno if a long-term ban could be enforced that well, either.
This is important. I saw some jerk on Gamefacks say that he got away with using 255 EVs in every stat through the prelims in one of the regionals, then releasing those Pokemon and replacing them with the legit ones he put on his team sheet once he made it to the finalist lounge.whats going to stop someone from swaping a team around until the final hack check in the finalists lounge.
They could have some rentals available, which wouldnt be ideal for anyone but atleast they would be able to compete. I mean they already hand out pokemon, why not have some charizards and alakazams somewhere with stadium rental style moves? But that might be unrealistic.As for the poor kids who unknowingly get trash off of the GTS... that's a tough one. TPCi staff just has to make a judgement call.