It is because thyphlosion sucks atm, we may as well make a balanced hackmon for poor typhlosion to give him a saving grace set that's not too far fetched.This is Hackmons, you can max out all EVs. And why HP Ice on Typhlosion when you could give it Ice Beam/Blizzard? For that matter, why Typhlosion at all? His stats aren't exactly the greatest out there, or his typing... mono-Fire STAB isn't doing all that much. Pretty nice looking Mewtwo set, though I would probably suggest Substitute over something to prevent a Blissey revenge kill.
Anyway, this metagame looks ridiculously fun. Might have to give it a try some time. :D
He's talking about blissey running imposter. Almost every blissey runs imposter now-a-days. Way more bulkier means that it will KO you before you can KO it.It is because thyphlosion sucks atm, we may as well make a balanced hackmon for poor typhlosion to give him a saving grace set that's not too far fetched.
As for mewtwo, he should be able to at least 2ko blissey after a boost, maybe max his special attack out for a would be ohko, idk i'd have to do the math.
how about i save shaymin?
Shaymin@life orb
magic guard
252 speed and sp attack/ maxed
timid
Quiver dance
Flamethrower/earth power
Ice beam/earth power
Seed flare
I'm not playing this thing so I can theorymon the shit out of it:
- Final Gambit Blissey?Tried it out and yes it works! But only use 1 on a team though
- Rain teams sporting some Rain Dish/ Swift Swim / Hydration stuffs?yes that work
- Random Rocky Helmets? (yea f u sheddy)yes that works
- Drizzle Water Spout Palkia? (Double STAB 150 base power attack coming off base 150 SpA? Sure, why not!)Faced one and it was overkill lol
In a similar vein,
- Drought Overheat Specs Reshiram? Drought on another poke, and add contrary to reshiram
- Hydration Sheddy in the rain? (bound to net you one free turn sooner than later)The whole point of sheddy is sturdy. Take that away is like taking superman's powers away :/
This, though I'm female ;) Imposter scarfed Blissey basically has twice the bulk of any setup sweeper and an extra +1 to speed. If you've been boosting attacking stats, you're screwed unless you have a way to block the attack, which is where Sturdy Shedinja comes into play. If you've been boosting defensive stats... well, you'd better have a phazer or something immune to the move it picks, because otherwise that Blissey ain't going anywhere until it's out of PP.He's talking about blissey running imposter. Almost every blissey runs imposter now-a-days. Way more bulkier means that it will KO you before you can KO it.
Even better would be Swift Swim Water Spout Palkia with Drizzle Support.Drizzle Water Spout Palkia? (Double STAB 150 base power attack coming off base 150 SpA? Sure, why not!)
Contrary pokemon are rare when laying good opposition, and not really a significant threat until very late game vs a good teamLemme try one more: Flash Fire Dialga? Allows him to tank most of the Contrary pokemon for a second..
Change that to Darminatan and yep you got the highest damage output in the game. The Sun,STAB+180 base power move, and pure power allows it to be better higher than any other special attacker and slaking. lol im gonna try that for overkill...That's an interesting question actually, which viable Pokemon/Attack combination has the largest immediate damage output? I'd hazard a guess at Pure Power Ho-oh with V Create in the sun. Not necessarily an effective 'mon, but I expect it would rip virtually anything apart.
Pure Power Slaking with Choiced Explosion, I think. As you said, not necessarily effective, but...That's an interesting question actually, which viable Pokemon/Attack combination has the largest immediate damage output? I'd hazard a guess at Pure Power Ho-oh with V Create in the sun. Not necessarily an effective 'mon, but I expect it would rip virtually anything apart.
I think you may have forgotten something in your calc's, as by my calc 252 adamant CB vcreate from 140 base attack to 252/252 +def nature giratina in sun does 48% - 56.5%Change that to Darminatan and yep you got the highest damage output in the game. The Sun,STAB+180 base power move, and pure power allows it to be better higher than any other special attacker and slaking. lol im gonna try that for overkill...
Since smogon's damage calc cant calc for darminatin I did it for Ho-oh. All done with Adamant+pure power+Sun- V-create
Choice Band vs Giratina- 76.3% - 89.9%
Choice Scarf vs Giratina- 50.7% - 59.8%
Choice Scarf vs Lugia- 127.2% - 150%
I'm defintely gonna be running rampant with choice scarf lol over kill!! Not even blissey can 100% revenge kill you. The question is though between Ho-oh or daminatan. Slaking cant OHKO with Espeed to Ho-oh..only doing 68% - 80.3%. While it can OHKO darminatan. However Darminatan is slightly stronger and can switch into the majority of pokes that got a +1 speed boost from quiver dance and outspeed them.
Sun Boosted V-Create actually has a higher Base Power but Slaking will do slightly more damage thanks to its higher Atk.Pure Power Slaking with Choiced Explosion, I think. As you said, not necessarily effective, but...
Did you add Pure Power ability to the mix and how were you able to come up with a 140 base power Fire pokemon? I just did the calc w/o pure power and came up with about the same answer. Also weird I just did the calc again with pure power and it said it was a OHKO on 252/252 giratina. O_oI think you may have forgotten something in your calc's, as by my calc 252 adamant CB vcreate from 140 base attack to 252/252 +def nature giratina in sun does 48% - 56.5%
Unfortunately thats not enough to OHKO Giratina, you deal 60.71 - 71.62% in the sun with a Pure Power sun boosted V-Create. If you REALLY want to score the kill on Giratina you could run an attack boosting nature and a Choice Band (netting you 100 - 117.85%) but then you'll be and revenge killed by the majority of the tier.That's an interesting question actually, which viable Pokemon/Attack combination has the largest immediate damage output? I'd hazard a guess at Pure Power Ho-oh with V Create in the sun. Not necessarily an effective 'mon, but I expect it would rip virtually anything apart.
i tried that but its very underwhelming.It's somewhat disappointing that this got 4 pages long before someone mentioned that marowak gets priority stab earthquake (when using prankster nature power) coming off 568 attack without life orb recoil or being locked with a choice item.