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HGSS Megaspeculation Thread
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Oh dear god no. Don't give them any ideas.
It seems likely that they won't have Pal Park. With the new Nintendo DSi, and now that we can safely say every one of the 493 Pokemon are available in 4th gen, I don't see a reason why they would put Pal Park in.
Treecko, Torchic, Mudkip, Latios, Latias.
Then again, these could be included in HGSS, or atleast I hope so.
Nobody knows.
I honestly don't think there will be a pal park.
Reasons:
DP Migrate INFO:
Kanto
Hoenn
Distant Land
Johto will be the location if traded from HGSS to D/P/Pt, I know this for a fact, since none of Johto hatch locations will be the same as D/P/Pt except for maybe Mt. Coronet, but this is also highly unlikely. No pal park for HG/SS especially since it will be having so many things to do with the DSi... That's how most games are going to be too, no connection with GBA games, the DSi is taking over. And I guess if you wanted IDK, a Zapdos you caught in your FR you'd have to go FR-->D/P/Pt-->HGSS.
Reasons:
DP Migrate INFO:
Kanto
Hoenn
Distant Land
Johto will be the location if traded from HGSS to D/P/Pt, I know this for a fact, since none of Johto hatch locations will be the same as D/P/Pt except for maybe Mt. Coronet, but this is also highly unlikely. No pal park for HG/SS especially since it will be having so many things to do with the DSi... That's how most games are going to be too, no connection with GBA games, the DSi is taking over. And I guess if you wanted IDK, a Zapdos you caught in your FR you'd have to go FR-->D/P/Pt-->HGSS.
If pokemon survives a 5th generation (we gotta admit the formula is getting old, specially with 5 major games in a single generation - either they get really creative next one, or they change pokemon completely - or they stop), I bet it will.
The conditional sentence, tough, seems more questionable for me.
The forumula may be getting old for us, but you are forgetting about the fact that they constantly attract new/younger players. These players do not view the formula as stale, because they haven't ever played it before.
Pokemon will survive much longer than 5 generations. It can literally go on forever as long as they keep on attracting new kids.
For one thing, you're right: childs seems to be pokemon main consumers. People focused on competitive playing are sort of rare - in comparison with the number of kids, I mean -, and some of them prefer simulators like shoddy.
Still, I personally believe the game won't last much more.
Do you think HG/SS will sell as much as Platinum?
And I'll always buy the new games, unless they pull a Spyro and release a complete and utter turd. Yeah, I bought Enter the Dragonfly for £40 the day it came out. And then to add further insult to injury I saw it for £20 the next day. That was around $80USD at the time... everything is so much cheaper in America. And it's even more expensive than the UK in Scandinivia and continental Europe (prime example being in Lego, where the Millenium Falcon costs $500 in the US and equivalent of $885 in Denmark where it's actually made. All boxed lego sets being shipped from Germany where it costs equivalent of $814).
However that'd only happen if Game Freak dumped Pokémon. And I highly doubt that they will, because they all seem interested in the games and Pokémon is pretty much all they make. Small company too (50-ish guys iirc).
Pokémon will continue as long as Nintendo and Mario do, pretty much. I can see that happening for an extremely long time. And with the pre-release screens of HG/SS, things look to be getting better and better.
However that'd only happen if Game Freak dumped Pokémon. And I highly doubt that they will, because they all seem interested in the games and Pokémon is pretty much all they make. Small company too (50-ish guys iirc).
Pokémon will continue as long as Nintendo and Mario do, pretty much. I can see that happening for an extremely long time. And with the pre-release screens of HG/SS, things look to be getting better and better.
Count me in! >_>
Worse and worse for me. Visiting old areas is old. Battle frontier is old. Move Tutor is olds. The alternate forms released til now can't be used on WiFi. It won't attract competitive players as much as Platinum, specially when you can ask a friend to teach that move tutor move for you (if any).
PokeWalker and following pokemon sounds interesting, but they're pretty insignificant if you're looking for a RPG-game. Either you buy it for nostalgia, or you're most likely to be a kid.
Also, from the next generation on, alt forms won't be far as interesting.
Pokemon is getting old, the new versions seems to confirm it. For me, at least.
Or you buy it because it had what most people think the best in-game story of all pokemon games, and quite a bit of longevity(16 badges, Red, etc). On top of that, the 3 beasts(with good IVs/natures), Ho-oh, Lugia, and most likely Wifi Celebi. Oh yeah, Kyogre, Groudon, and Rayquaza, for those people who didn't buy RSE. So yeah, there are quite a few more reasons than what you are thinking of.
Longevity is comparable to pokewalker or following pokemon - it's good just for pokefans. If you're looking for storyline or a RPG experience, there games better than pokemon.
I believe most teens/adults buy pokemon for competitive playing. Other than that, we have the huge amount of kids, which seems to keep the franchise alive. About legendaries, there's nothing Wi-Fi can't handle.
Still, I may wind up buying it due to nostalgia, since GS times were literally gold >_>
No offense, but I don't think Game Freak and Nintendo care what you think. As long as the kiddies will buy, they will keep making the games. Unless of course one day they decide that they don't like money anymore, they have absolutely no reason to discontinue Pokemon. This is how most companies work btw.
Basically, what your'e saying is "I don't think they will make anymore Pokemon games because I think they won't."
lol
Nah, I'm just pointing the game's losing power to attract old players. Someone posted before it won't cause the series to finish because of kids, which I agree. Yeah, maybe you're right and it'll last longer, but again, it's just the same as me saying 5th generation will be the last one.
Everything in this thread is mere speculation, so treating what I say as wrong or ridiculous doesn't quite make sense. I also care enough to repeat everything I say is my opinion.
And I don't feel offensed, because I know what you said is right.
Concerning HG/SS, I think I've been clear enough. I hope the probably new forms can be used on Wi-Fi at least, that'd be a big plus.
About the "visiting new areas is old", well, that was a typo =x I meant old areas, like, i.e., going back to Hoenn in a 5th gen remake.
I don't know what leads you to think that because remaking Gold and Silver is probably the absolute best thing Nintendo could have done to attract the old players - nearly all the casual Pokemon players I know swear blind that GSC were the best Pokemon games and they were very interested to hear that there'd be a remake.
You've just listed three things that have proven to be massively successful...this site buzzes with anticipation at even tidbits of news regarding those three (not so much the first but yeah) so why should Nintendo not play to that? If it aint broke, don't fix it.
Well, that remains to be seen. Just consider that you're on the biggest and best competitive Pokemon website in the world reading the 1786th reply from yet another member who would chop off his left bollock to get this game. ;p
Perhaps you're just getting a bit fed up with the same old engine, gabriel, but to the majority of us that's what we grew up on and we wouldn't have it any other way. But who knows, there's still every chance they'll put in something different in the future.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Hoenn starters were given as a reward for completing your Pokedex (like the Johto starters in Emerald). And it would be kinda weird for Latias and Latios to be the only unobtainable Pokemon so I'm sure they'll throw them in somewhere.
A couple of things. First, I haven't heard of any DSi-exclusive features like you claim there are.
Second, how do the Pal Park locations rule out a HG/SS Pal Park?
Theres gonna be a distant land? havent heard that unless its that area in the PokeWalker, is it supposed to be like the Sevii islands in FR/LG? And Im pretty sure Mt Coronet cant be in Jhoto because its in the center of Sinnoh. To get stuff like magneton to evolve it probably goes to Mt Silver
Distant Land = Pokémon from Colosseum/XD. It's not a new region per se, BUT it could be used for any new region in the future, like Sevii in HGSS (not saying they'll be there, though), or Orre/whatever else in any possible Wii game.
because we've seen every other location BUT Johto.
There's Kanto, if migrated from FR/LG
There's Hoenn if migrated from R/S/E
There's Distant Land if from Colosseum/Pokemon XD
Simply, no Johto location, which will be obtainable if Johto. And I'll probably edit this post with the HG/SS DSi camera pic. when I find it
And it wouldn't make ANY sense for Johto to be able to migrate with a generation that came after it? (Hoenn). I really don't think they'll be a Pal Park.
You make zero sense. First, Johto IS programmed in DPPt, but it doesn't have to do with Pal Park in this case, obviously. It's so that pokémon caught in Johto won't show up as "Mystery Zone". Second, this DSi camera pic in something that looked like Pokétch is a fake. And third, why would which generation came first matter? Pal Park has nothing to do with that, but with migration instead. They could perfectly put a Pal Park somewhere in HGSS so pokémon from Hoenn can migrate to Kanto/Johto. Simple.
And lastly, as far as I know, by the time G/S were released, the Game Boy Color was already being sold, but did it mean non-GBC users couldn't play the new games? No. They just wouldn't see all the cool colors, but that wasn't that essential to the games, just like the Pal Park now, but in the inverse way. DSi-only owners (I believe a lot of people with a DSi still have access to a working old DS) won't have a use to it, but would they really care?
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