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League of Legends: Let's Talk About uhhh??

Cathadora said:
I fail to see why crit is wasted on leesin but considered good on GP. Lee has his very rapid attacks that can crit while gps only ability that can crit is on a decently long cd. Assuming a realistic team fight lee won't auto twice every time he casts a spell so i think the 2 probably equal out dps wise on a target. I personally like Maw over atamas unless they have 3 ads anyway so i usually don't build it anyhow.
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Crit isn't super-useless on Lee like Thorns seems to be implying but it doesn't affect much of his damage, which comes from spells. Contrast to GP, who applies crit to almost 100% of his damage output, and the implication is obvious. That said, the fact that Atma's lost AD value roughly equivalent to the crit that remains on it... well, it used to be worth it even on champions that crit was relatively useless. At least crit is never entirely useless on AD champions, unlike say mana/regen on manaless champions. (Which doesn't stop Lich Bane from being awesome on Akali or change the fact that DFG was nerfed even for champions that didn't use the mana regen.) But Atma's is weak enough now that it's a questionable endgame item even for the Gangplanks of the world, you're probably better off just getting more pure tank-oriented items and then IE for your damage.

6/27/11 never forget akali :(
 
Honestly I wouldnt bother getting any tanky items on GP unless its like an Atmogs after my core items. To me he is beefy enough with his W+ strong late game scaling to the point where I just rush Bloodthirster/Sheen for maximum Dmg and sustain. At that point if Im somehow getting melted Ill go Atmogs/IE/Tri Force but if Im not then Ill just go IE/ 2nd BT/Triforce.Atmogs is nice on bruisers and such but is very situational because it takes up two precious item slots.Before the nerf it was actually possible to buy just Atmas(no mogs needed) because it had such nice benefits due to most heroes who can utilize having nice HP scales toward the late game. Instead of nerfing all of these hero's hp they decided to nerf the item instead.
 
Mr.E said:
Crit isn't super-useless on Lee like Thorns seems to be implying but it doesn't affect much of his damage, which comes from spells. Contrast to GP, who applies crit to almost 100% of his damage output, and the implication is obvious. That said, the fact that Atma's lost AD value roughly equivalent to the crit that remains on it... well, it used to be worth it even on champions that crit was relatively useless. At least crit is never entirely useless on AD champions, unlike say mana/regen on manaless champions. (Which doesn't stop Lich Bane from being awesome on Akali or change the fact that DFG was nerfed even for champions that didn't use the mana regen.) But Atma's is weak enough now that it's a questionable endgame item even for the Gangplanks of the world, you're probably better off just getting more pure tank-oriented items and then IE for your damage.

6/27/11 never forget akali :(
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You kinda missed the point i was making in that while much of lees dmg does come from spells their auto will be roughly the same speed/dmg and directly comparing the two. I think crit is not great on both of them and is over hyped to hell on gp because of parley mega hits of death i would much rather have the tanky/support gp that gets into team fights and causes mayhem with his ult/passive slows
 
You also forget the fact that GP's auto becomes ranged on crits, and I'm pretty sure he uses his AA a lot. Dunno how major the range is, but it's there.

He certainly auto attacks a lot more than leesin.
 
he doesn't - the thing is lee sin gains more damage from other items, only those other items don't give him armor (wriggles is the only one)

the solution: chain vest + pickaxe item pls
 
Too bad the name of that video pops up before you actually hit play. It would be even funnier watching it without the title.
 
Please note that anything I post before 9 AM is probably complete bullshit. I dunno what the hell I was thinking, please just ignore the tired idiot and move on.
 
No your partly right, when he crits he shoots his gun but its in melee range and there is no missile speed or missile for that matter :O
 
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SgtWoodsy said:
I would like to know the current permabans and the "good" bans in reasonably high-ranked ELO please. (no troll bans thanks)
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Cassio/Ryze/Morg are frequent bans and Vlad/Ahri aren't uncommon either. Lee Sin/Janna/Shaco (in solo q) are also frequently banned.

Nautilus is becoming hugely popular now and we may start seeing him get banned more often.
 
picked up ezreal cause he's on sale but haven't been able to play today, can anyone give any tips? i heard he's pretty hard so it'll certainly be an interesting experience..
 
eh, i play ezreal he rly isnt that tough. his q missile speed is rly fast and hard to avoid so if you just aim dead on them it will probably hit. Use your R at the beginning of team fights so your passive procs. E actually does a shit ton of dmg at relatively low cost in the early stages of the game so you dont really need your W till later. 1 point in W is good though because it procs your passive and hits multiple enemis. Try and rush BT then go triforce if yourr good at farming.
 
HD said:
i don't play ezreal but i assume using his escape for damage is usually wrong
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Ever use flash offensively? (That was rhetorical)


It's the same concept with Ez's E. For the love of God do not spam it, but it's okay to use it offensively often.
 
Using it offensively often (early game, since that was the time period jonnyrolo said was when to use it because it had a good mana cost/damage ratio (?)), using your E offensively often wastes your mana pool, pushes your wave, and also gives a big (possibly neon-light sign) to any competent enemy jungler with at least some timing to come and gank your ass
 
I didnt say use it often though. I said it should be gotten over W because it has way better utility. Ez's W quite frankly just sucks and is considered a waste of a skill in my book. The only practical use I can see in W would be to get one lvl of it in case you want to proc your passive Attack speed buff more which is just as easy to do with your Q and R and the situational E( whether it be closing the distance or running away or just getting into a general better postion). Other than that the W skill does nothing.Edit: Why I mentioned E in the first place is because aiming it and using it correctly is what imo seperates good Ezreal players form great ones.
 
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