This is really cool! I’ll do some winners/losers from this.This isn't so much an idea as it's gonna be a post about garnering how much interest there would be in bringing back this: Type CondensinG
It was discussed a bit in the room today and we got to talking (mainly KaenSoul and I lol with a sprinkle of astralydia ) and a major change that has occured since this was a thing back in XY was the removal of Fairy types starting in Sword and Shield Base Set so that would bring them down to a total of 10 types:
This could be HUGE for things like Tyranitar (Fighting/Dark) and Hydreigon (Dark/Dragon) who were 4x weak to Fairy then but would in fact be immune to them now as they are retyped to Psychic.(retype Poison types)
(retypes Rock and Ground types)
(retypes Bug types)
(retypes Flying types)
(retypes Fairy and Ghost types)
(retypes Ice types)
Only weak to Dragon thanks to Fairy being gone and how Levitate works in this OM (makes it immune to Fighting type attacks)
There are no longer any Ground types, it's fast af plus Transistor to boost its already spammable STAB
New typing: Normal/Dragon
Obligatory STAB Boom lol
Lemme know any thoughts/concerns and what, if any, ideas you guys have for good Pokémon and maybe sets as well.
Fighting/Dragon is a really good type combo that gives it lots of offensive and defensive utility. Plus, remember all those ice moves that chomp was quad weak to before this? Well, now it’s resistant to them, since they’ve changed to water!
Ok, Clefable isn’t BAD…but it’s definitely not good. With how strong most of the dragons are, it’s a tough call to say it’s gonna be a threat.
Ban this shit, it’s super dumb. STAB extreme speed is just insane. It has one resist, and that resist is cleaved open by EQ.
Levitate gets a huge buff. Both of these mons can reliably answer the single scariest type in the tier, Dragon, thanks to their newfound fighting coverage.
Fighting STAB EQ. Need I say more?
This isn't so much an idea as it's gonna be a post about garnering how much interest there would be in bringing back this: Type CondensinG
It was discussed a bit in the room today and we got to talking (mainly KaenSoul and I lol with a sprinkle of astralydia ) and a major change that has occured since this was a thing back in XY was the removal of Fairy types starting in Sword and Shield Base Set so that would bring them down to a total of 10 types:
This could be HUGE for things like Tyranitar (Fighting/Dark) and Hydreigon (Dark/Dragon) who were 4x weak to Fairy then but would in fact be immune to them now as they are retyped to Psychic.(retype Poison types)
(retypes Rock and Ground types)
(retypes Bug types)
(retypes Flying types)
(retypes Fairy and Ghost types)
(retypes Ice types)
Only weak to Dragon thanks to Fairy being gone and how Levitate works in this OM (makes it immune to Fighting type attacks)
There are no longer any Ground types, it's fast af plus Transistor to boost its already spammable STAB
New typing: Normal/Dragon
Obligatory STAB Boom lol
Lemme know any thoughts/concerns and what, if any, ideas you guys have for good Pokémon and maybe sets as well.
It did but then it got added back in.
This isn't so much an idea as it's gonna be a post about garnering how much interest there would be in bringing back this: Type CondensinG
It was discussed a bit in the room today and we got to talking (mainly KaenSoul and I lol with a sprinkle of astralydia ) and a major change that has occured since this was a thing back in XY was the removal of Fairy types starting in Sword and Shield Base Set so that would bring them down to a total of 10 types:
This could be HUGE for things like Tyranitar (Fighting/Dark) and Hydreigon (Dark/Dragon) who were 4x weak to Fairy then but would in fact be immune to them now as they are retyped to Psychic.(retype Poison types)
(retypes Rock and Ground types)
(retypes Bug types)
(retypes Flying types)
(retypes Fairy and Ghost types)
(retypes Ice types)
Only weak to Dragon thanks to Fairy being gone and how Levitate works in this OM (makes it immune to Fighting type attacks)
There are no longer any Ground types, it's fast af plus Transistor to boost its already spammable STAB
New typing: Normal/Dragon
Obligatory STAB Boom lol
Lemme know any thoughts/concerns and what, if any, ideas you guys have for good Pokémon and maybe sets as well.
It's Type CondensinG because TCG because Trading Card Game but....
Not a fan of this. The issue Dr Pumpkinz pointed out is likely going to persist no matter what is done. A metagame like this would have a huge dip in power level and that sort of metagame is typically less popular. It's the sort of meta which buffs Regigigas, Truant, and prevents you from using a LOT of good things limiting creativity and good teamYesterday we were discussing a terrible idea in the OM room and out of that discussion and not so bad idea come out, and I want to know if I'm not the only one who sees potential on it, I call it
Unwanted Gifts
Metagame premise: A Pokémon receive the foe's original ability upon entering the field.
While teambuilding for this meta you can't just choose the mons with the best abilities as your opponent would be the one using them, well then maybe Durant could be a good option? but what is going to do against someone with stronger mons like Corviknight? Maybe choosing the worst possible ability isn't that good of an idea either!
But then what works? Let's find out!
Potential bans and threats: Maybe we should ban the hindering abilities to prevent centralization, but I fear going beyond "possible" broken mons like Regigigas or Slaking (assuming either is in SV) could hurt the identity of the tier.
Questions for the community:
Prioritize the Ban of mons or abilitites?
Would you actually put Archen on your team if Archeops was banned just to give Defeatist to the opponent instead of actually using 6 mons?
Would the usual ability bans (Shadow Tag, Moody, Arena Trap, etc.) be necessary here?
Well, it does seem like it would end quite different to Linked despite the similar premise, as boosting moves halves the power of the move they are combining with, you only get 2 move slots, and you aren't attacking twice you get an average BP from both moves, so the power level should be way lower than in linked as it should be quite hard to get pass 100 BP.SUPER MOVES
Metagame premise: Each Pokémon has two “super moves”, but they are made up of two ordinary moves each.
How are Super Moves made?
-The Base Powers, Accuracy, and Power Points of the first and second moves are averaged to make the BP and PP of the first Super Move. Same goes for the third and fourth moves with the second Super Move.
NOTE: A status move is treated as if it has no base power
-Both of the moves’ can happen. For example, a Super Move made up of Fire Blast and Blizzard would have a chance to burn AND a chance to freeze. When both moves have the same effect, the chances of it happening are calculated as if the move was used twice in the same turn.
-Category is chosen by which move comes first in the move list.
-Move types are combined. For example, a Super Move can be Fire/Poison type.
As an example, take this Garchomp
Slot 1: Earthquake
Slot 2: Scale Shot
Slot 3: Rock Slide
Slot 4: Fire Blast
The Garchomp would have two Super Moves: a physical 62.5 Base Power 95% accurate, Ground/Dragon type move that drops defense and raises speed, and a 87.5% accurate physical 92.5 base power Rock/Fire type move with a 10% chance to burn and a 30% chance to flinch.
Potential bans and threats:
BANS
-Swords Dance, Nasty Plot Belly Drum
-Multi-hit moves
-Any form of Protect or Substitute
-Multiple flinch moves or a flinch-causing move and a paralysis-causing move
-Priority moves
-Stored Power and Power Trip
-Healing moves outside of HP-draining attacks, Ingrain, and Leech Seed
Threats
Scale Shot
Priority Moves
Stat-Boosting Attacks
Clefable
-Bulky sweeper with Charge Beam/Cosmic Power and Moonblast/Flamethrower. Suffers a lot from losing Soft Boiled and Stored Power, though
Weavile
-Power-Up Punch/Knock Off alone should not be scoffed at. This thing could pick up boosts without even trying to, and try to sweep a team
Togekiss
Can run an Aura Sphere/Zap Cannon Super Move to create a 100 BP always-paralyzing move. With a paralysis, Togekiss can try to fish for a boost from Ancient Power
Questions for the community: Should status moves work differently? Should they be banned?
Should perfect accuracy moves and poor accuracy moves being together be banned?
Fair point, but how do I lift that restriction?
However, one can tailor a Pokémon to hit a certain type 4x super effectively. I’m not sure how else to nerf stall; most healing moves are already banned
I was thinking of something like Toxapex with Spite+anything but double checking your banlist there sure aren't many options so is probably fine.
Every instance of type stuff is ctrl+F replaced with the TCG type. Fighting mons are immune to Sandstorm and get their SpDef boosted; Dark mons can't be poisoned, have accurate Toxics, and remove Toxic Spikes; Psychic mons can't be trapped...
Very fast users of Torment gain a huge advantage in this meta. They can stop the opponent from clicking whatever move they want to spam a billion times.
These are probably gonna be the first bans. Should be obvious why. Spam either Leaf Blade or Extreme Speed or Earthquake with very little repercussion.
Surprisingly, defensive Pokemon benefit from this too. They can instantly heal their entire health bar if they're spamming Recover. Plus, Toxapex and Slowbro can freely spam Scald and become even more likely to burn.Pivot moves would just switch out before the user has a chance to build up a chain.The Domino Effect
Moves used several times in a row become used multiple times in a turn, up to 5 times.
If this is confusing, let's have an example:
Say you have a Scizor. It uses Swords Dance once. It gets the +2 attack, as usual. However, if it uses Swords Dance immediately after on the 2nd turn, it will use Swords Dance twice in one turn. The same applies for its Bullet Punch. Use it once, just regular Bullet Punch. Use it twice in a row, Bullet punch activates twice. This still consumes just one PP, so it acts similar to a multihit move.
Notable Buffs
Questions for the community
How will pivot moves be handled?
Are there any changes that should be made to make it more balanced?
How about Instead of the damage being applied twice, the secondary effect is, and it's only like a metronome power boost or smthThe Domino Effect
Moves used several times in a row become used multiple times in a turn, up to 5 times.
If this is confusing, let's have an example:
Say you have a Scizor. It uses Swords Dance once. It gets the +2 attack, as usual. However, if it uses Swords Dance immediately after on the 2nd turn, it will use Swords Dance twice in one turn. The same applies for its Bullet Punch. Use it once, just regular Bullet Punch. Use it twice in a row, Bullet punch activates twice. This still consumes just one PP, so it acts similar to a multihit move.
Notable Buffs
Questions for the community
How will pivot moves be handled?
Are there any changes that should be made to make it more balanced?
