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Dr. Eyepatch said:
So, I caved in a couple days ago and purchased Minecraft. Although I still have a few questions (which I hope can be answered), it is quite fun.

The first time I started it up, I spawned on a small island with one tree; the only things within view were another small island with a tree and endless sea in every direction. I could not find coal and had to spend my night on the highest point of the second island (not very high), ever vigilent for monsters. I saw a couple of what I now know as Endermen, and when night was nearly up, one wandered too close and I kept my eye on it. I was dead then and there. I said, "Eff this," and generated a new map, which happens to have a jungle biome, sea, desert, village, mountains, forests, and even a winter area all within a small walking distance.
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Ahh... the first night. Who doesn't remember their ever-first night in Minecraft?

Protip: Wood can be smelted in a Furnace to make Charcoal. It has the exact same properties as mineral coal. Also plant saplings to get more trees. And Endermen hate water. If you have at least one tile of water all around you, it can't harm you.

I have a lot of exploring to do and a lot to learn, but I have made my hideout high up on the steep part of a mountain, mined my way back and down until I hit the other side, then began to repeat the process down toward the first entrance. As a result, I encountered a gigantic dark chasm in the mountain, host to all sorts of monsters. I am trying to figure out how to go down it since it is very deep and pretty much a straight dropoff.
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The most efficient method would be digging straight down, but it isn't recommended, as you never know when you'll encounter a huge cave (=death by falling) or lava (death by fire). The best way would be digging a staircase. You first dig one block in, three blocks tall, one or two blocks wide, and one block down. Then you enter your little hole and repeat the process, until you get a staircase. You can also make a spiralling staircase by digging in a 3x3 pattern.

Anyway, now for questions, since I am not very tech savvy. If I were to create a map on, say, my laptop, would there be any way I could access that file through my home computer? I mostly ask for a reason which leads to my next question. The past two days or so, I have been playing Minecraft without issue on my laptop, but when I attempted to play today, the game had indescribably severe lag, rendering it unplayable. I tried shutting down and restarting my computer and restarting the program with no luck. My next question is, does Minecraft get like that sometimes or is something perhaps wrong with my computer?

I would really appreciate it if someone could help me out with this.
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For lag, try to update your Java, and/or turn down the graphics. Especially rendering distance kills computers. Keep it on normal or small.

As for playing the same world on several computers... it is possible, but requires a method of file transfering. Somewhere in the Minecraft folders, you can find a folder for your generated world. You'd have to copy this over to the other computer, and back again if you want your progress saved on both computers. It's a little tiresome, so I'd suggest playing on different worlds with different computers.
 
Said minecraft folder is located in the appdata folder (if you are on windows) wich you can acces by typing %appdata% into the windows search bar and hit enter (this is the easiest method).

In this appdata folder you will see a folder named .minecraft in wich the folder named saves has all the world maps. Copy these maps over to your other computer. Sadly there is no cloud stuff in minecraft so you would have to copy over the new world file each time thus making it a bit tiresome.
 
Cobraroll said:
Ahh... the first night. Who doesn't remember their ever-first night in Minecraft?
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I could not imagine someone ever forgetting. For what it is, it manages to be a rather scary game. I believe that the first night is the most difficult part of the game (at least for a player of my level and taking into account only that which I have been through).

Cobraroll said:
Protip: Wood can be smelted in a Furnace to make Charcoal. It has the exact same properties as mineral coal. Also plant saplings to get more trees. And Endermen hate water. If you have at least one tile of water all around you, it can't harm you.
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I figured that out, so making charcoal is definitely a way to go if one cannot find coal. That is also true, so the small island may be doable and fun for me now (wish I would have saved the file), but still likely pretty difficult.

Really? I forgot that I read such a fact. If I were to stand in water and look at an Enderman, would it be unable to touch me? What would be the most efficient way to kill them?

Cobraroll said:
The most efficient method would be digging straight down, but it isn't recommended, as you never know when you'll encounter a huge cave (=death by falling) or lava (death by fire). The best way would be digging a staircase. You first dig one block in, three blocks tall, one or two blocks wide, and one block down. Then you enter your little hole and repeat the process, until you get a staircase. You can also make a spiralling staircase by digging in a 3x3 pattern.
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Definitely. The sheer dropoff makes going down it quite a task, but I will probably do so eventually. If I do, I am going to have to make doors to keep the baddies out. For now, I will just keep digging along the same path.

Cobraroll said:
For lag, try to update your Java, and/or turn down the graphics. Especially rendering distance kills computers. Keep it on normal or small.
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I should have the most recent version of Java available. I will try your other suggestions, though, thank you.

Cobraroll said:
As for playing the same world on several computers... it is possible, but requires a method of file transfering. Somewhere in the Minecraft folders, you can find a folder for your generated world. You'd have to copy this over to the other computer, and back again if you want your progress saved on both computers. It's a little tiresome, so I'd suggest playing on different worlds with different computers.
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Hm... According to what you and BenVdd say, it is quite a hassle, especially for someone not very technology-inclined as myself. Is it easy for the saved data to disappear/be deleted? If so, how could I go about preventing such a thing?

Thank you guys for the replies. This really is an entertaining game and I am happy to be a part of it. Hopefully, once I get decent enough at it, I will be able to pay the Smogon server a visit.
 
Im suprised no-one has mentioned Optifine yet

Optifine is a mod which will give you a host of other graphics options and will decrease lag and increase fps dramatically

Optifine

The easiest way to install this mod is via Magic Launcher

Magic Launcher

This is will essentially give you a lot of other feautres without having to always go to your %appdata% .minecraft folder all the time, it also allows you to install mods and delete them very easily. IT functions the same as the Minecraft Launcher

Now once you have downloaded MAgic Launcher and Optifine, (make sure to not click any ads), open up Magic Launcher, and you will get a window very similar to the original Minecraft Launcher. You have an option called Setup, next to the button called configuration. There you can setup your mods and manage them very easily. Why Mojang have not decided to make something similar to this is beyond me. But once again the Minecraft modding community have suceeded.

Install Optifine

And you will get a huge FPS boost, also pick the Optifine version that suits your computer the most, I suggest just getting the Standard version, because Multi-Core seems to glitch out a lot for me (even though I have a multicore processor)
 
Really? I forgot that I read such a fact. If I were to stand in water and look at an Enderman, would it be unable to touch me? What would be the most efficient way to kill them?
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The Enderman would teleport itself next to you, intent on killing. However, upon arriving at your side, it would notice that it's standing in water, taking damage. Thus, it teleports away. Then it tries to teleport over to you again. And takes damage. Flees before it hits you. And again. And again. Eventually, it would die by its own stupidity.
 
Cobraroll said:
The Enderman would teleport itself next to you, intent on killing. However, upon arriving at your side, it would notice that it's standing in water, taking damage. Thus, it teleports away. Then it tries to teleport over to you again. And takes damage. Flees before it hits you. And again. And again. Eventually, it would die by its own stupidity.
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Actually, IIRC, it'll teleport away and become passive again after teleporting into water. Maybe I'm wrong.

EDIT: Yeah, this is on minecraftwiki:

Preventing Attacks
The only way to get an Enderman to chase you is to hit it, or look at it with the crosshair. As Endermen are 3 blocks tall, you can keep your house's interior 2 blocks tall to prevent Endermen from teleporting into your house.

If the player sits in a pool of water, the Enderman will take damage from the water and then teleport away in response to the damage, and become neutral.

If the player wears a pumpkin on their head or looks at an Enderman through a transparent block such as glass, ice, leaves, or fence posts, it will not turn hostile when looked at. Once provoked, however, wearing a pumpkin will not prevent them from attacking or teleporting.
 
If you only look at the legs of an enderman while fighting it (after it has become aggressive) it will keep charging at you instead of teleporting away and returning (assuming it doesn't come in contact with water, get shot at by a projectile, etc). I'm not sure if this behavior is intentional but it makes fighting them a breeze once you have like an iron sword minimum.
 
I was looking back on my first posts here, and they suck. Really bad. Anyway, when the server is back up, anyone want to make an ewok village in the jungle?
 
just going fishing
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i'm trying...

I get it online for a few mins and then just crashes for no reason..

EDIT: it's online with only /home.. let's see how long it holds

EDITTTT: as i posted that last edit it just stopped working again...

EDITTTTTTTT: so i backed up the world and decided to put on vanilla minecraft to give you guys your minecraft fix. risk of griefing but there should be back ups each 15 minutes..

(lets see if the server crashes on vanilla aswell)
 
Okay, since the server seemingly runs fine on vanilla, we gotta clarify:

There is a good chance we will roll back all work done during this vanilla, limbo state. Absence of logblock makes us a bit uneasy. This is a temporary thing so everyone can play together, not something long term.

I know it sucks 'cause I'm sure some of you want to get back to building on old projects or working on resources but just keep in mind that these kind of things might get rolled back. (also if a lot of that new stone block pops up EVERYWHERE, it might push us more towards the rollback, opti!)
 
I just saw that the server is back up again;

I can't destroy any blocks (they just reappear after a split second and don't drop resources), I can't use the /home command (vanilla, obv.) and I can't open chests, interact with furnaces / crafting tables or brew potions.

Are all those problems client-side or is it the server, should I just wait until it's stable again?

edit: Yep, just spawn area. I'm a nub.
 
In the small case of no rollback happening, i have a gltiching rig set up at opti isles to create the new circular stone block. To use it, place stone brick on the middle piston, redstone torch on top and then water in the last slot of the trench :). Voila, stone block!
 
Is there an "introduction to Smogcraft" text anywhere?
I logged in for the first time, walked around and admired stuff, but wherever I walked it felt like I was vandalizing if I touched anything, and walking anywhere else just lured in creepers. Chests lay everywhere out in the open, but I guess taking stuff is against the etiquette. People kept referring to places, but as I had no map it was hard to get anywhere. Could somebody compile a list of "do"s and "don't"s?
 
Basically, any chest out in the open is either fair game, or community maintained (like the chests in the wheat factory). So as long as you don't take an unreasonable amount, anything in them is kind of up for grabs. If you've got the time, it's preferable to harvest and replant the wheat, of course.

Chests inside houses are personally owned, and taking stuff from them is stealing, of course.

As far as getting around, there's a nether portal very near spawn with paths to some major communities.
 
Is player data going to be rolled back as well? I spent a couple hours testing out a trap today and my sword took quite a hit, I'm just curious.
 
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