M&M Mix and Mega Resources

[QT]

Mix & Mega Viability Rankings
(Last Updated on December 3rd, 2024)​

Once again, it's time (past time really) for another VR update!

Rises

Arceus-Ghost Rose from B+ to A-
Arceus-Water Rose from B+ to A-
Archaludon Rose from C to C+
Basculegion-F Rose from C to B-
Basculegion-M Rose from C to B-
Ceruledge Rose from B- to A-
Clodsire Rose from B to B+
Cresselia Rose from B- to B
Great Tusk Rose from A- to A
Hippowdon Rose from B+ to A-
Hoopa-U Rose from B- to B+
Indeedee Rose from C to B-
Iron Crown Rose from C to B+
Iron Moth Rose from C to B-
Kommo-o Rose from UR to C
Lunala Rose from A- to A
Magearna Rose from A- to A+
Mandibuzz Rose from B+ to A-
Necrozma-DM Rose from B- to B
Pecharunt Rose from B to A-
Raging Bol Rose from B+ to A-
Swampert Rose from UR to C
Urshifu-R Rose from A to A+
Walking Wake Rose from B+ to A

Drops

Arcanine-Hisui Fell from A to A-
Arceus-Poison Fell from B- to C
Barraskewda Fell from B- to C
Baxcalibur Fell from B+ to B
Chien Pao Fell from B to C
Corviknight Fell from A to A-
Eternatus Fell from S to A+
Heatran Fell from B to B-
Kilowattrel Fell from A- to B
Lugia Fell from A- to Unranked
Samurott-Hisui Fell from A to B+
Scream TailFell from B to B-
Slowbro Fell from B to C
Slowking-Galar Fell from A- to B+
Weavile Fell from B to B-
Zapdos Fell from B to B-
Zapdos-Galar Fell from B- to C

 

[RainebowValiant]

The Mega Stone Guide is insanely outdated, is it getting an update? /genq I'm wondering. Especially since the Red Orb ban and the Aggronite change.

 

[Slither Wing]

The Mega Stone Guide is insanely outdated, is it getting an update? /genq I'm wondering. Especially since the Red Orb ban and the Aggronite change.

Can't speak for the mega guide itself but we are planning on going through & updating all resources soon, it's just that it's the holidays right now, which means that most of us are busy but expect some updates the coming month :)

 

[Imw0rstadP0keM0n]

So, was the Aggronite change actually useful to any mon? I can't really find a case where's its a positive outside of shitmons like Trevenant lmao, what with the relevance of Ground/Fight supremacy

 

[RainebowValiant]

So, was the Aggronite change actually useful to any mon? I can't really find a case where's its a positive outside of shitmons like Trevenant lmao, what with the relevance of Ground/Fight supremacy

Zamazenta is no longer weak to pixelate espeed, and most other common users now resist it. Idk how much that matters but it probably makes zama slightly better

 

[Lightniong]

Zamazenta is no longer weak to pixelate espeed, and most other common users now resist it. Idk how much that matters but it probably makes zama slightly better

Agronomem iron press zama gon go crazy

 

[Slither Wing]

Resource update! I've gone ahead and updated the Speed Tiers as well as the Role Compendium. As usual, if you find any mistakes or think that something's missing, feel free to reach out and I'll fix it. In addition...

With some much appreciated help from Chessking345 we now have a Tiering History! It will (hopefully) get added to the OP, but as for now you can find it just below:

Tiering History:

Click to see dates and links for each action

Date
Nov 18, 2022	[Gen 9] Mix and Mega goes live on Pokemon Showdown!
Nov 22, 2022	Miraidon quickbanned, Iron Bundle restricted
Dec 4, 2022	Kilowattrel restricted
Dec 12, 2022	Koraidon quickbanned
Feb 22, 2023	Sandy Shocks suspected
Mar 8, 2023	Sandy Shocks restricted via suspect, New item-based forme changes added
Mar 10, 2023	Roaring Moon restricted
Mar 13, 2023	Rusted Sword quickbanned, Roaring Moon unrestricted
Mar 20, 2023	Dragapult restricted, Terastallization suspected
Apr 6, 2023	Terastallization banned via suspect
May 7, 2023	Gholdengo suspected
May 18, 2023	Gholdengo suspect cancelled
May 20, 2023	Gholdengo restricted
May 30, 2023	Pokémon HOME is live, Sandy Shocks, Koraidon, Kilowattrel, Urshifu-Rapid-Strike unrestricted
May 31, 2023	Koraidon quickbanned, Gholdengo unrestricted
June 2, 2023	Kyogre quickbanned, Zapdos, Sneasler, Kilowattrel restricted
June 10, 2023	Eternatus quickbanned, Basculegion-M restricted
June 18, 2023	Gholdengo, Urshifu-Rapid-Strike restricted
July 13, 2023	Magearna suspected
July 25, 2023	Magearna remains unrestricted via suspect
July 27, 2023	Pidgeotite suspected
Aug 9, 2023	Pidgeotite banned via suspect, Zapdos unrestricted
Sept 22, 2023	Manaphy restricted
Sept 23, 2023	Ogerpon Masks are added as transformation items
Oct 19, 2023	Ursaluna-Bloodmoon restricted
Oct 22, 2023	Jolteon suspected
Nov 7, 2023	Jolteon restricted by suspect, Enamorus restricted
Dec 16, 2023	DLC 2 is live, Eternatus unbanned, Urshifu-Rapid-Strike unrestricted
Jan 29, 2024	Eternatus suspected
Feb 12, 2024	Eternatus remains unbanned via suspect
Mar 7, 2024	Urshifu-Rapid-Strike suspected
Mar 23, 2024	Urshifu-Rapid-Strike remains unrestricted via suspect
May 5, 2024	Gouging Fire suspected
May 20, 2024	Gouging Fire restricted via suspect
May 27, 2024	Red Orb suspected
June 11, 2024	Red Orb banned via suspect
June 13, 2024	Enamorus, Jolteon unrestricted
July 1, 2024	Solgaleo restricted
July 20, 2024	Kilowattrel unrestricted
Nov 9, 2024	Lugia suspected
Nov 25, 2024	Lugia restricted via suspect
Dec 12, 2024	Aggronite changed
Jan 6, 2025	Dragapult suspected
Jan 30, 2025	Dragapult unrestricted via suspect
Feb 3, 2025	Plates, Memories & Drives are added as transformation items

 

[RainebowValiant]

Resource update! I've gone ahead and updated the Speed Tiers as well as the Role Compendium. As usual, if you find any mistakes or think that something's missing, feel free to reach out and I'll fix it. In addition...

With some much appreciated help from Chessking345 we now have a Tiering History! It will (hopefully) get added to the OP, but as for now you can find it just below:

Tiering History:

Click to see dates and links for each action

Date
Nov 18, 2022	[Gen 9] Mix and Mega goes live on Pokemon Showdown!
Nov 22, 2022	Miraidon quickbanned, Iron Bundle restricted
Dec 4, 2022	Kilowattrel restricted
Dec 12, 2022	Koraidon quickbanned
Feb 22, 2023	Sandy Shocks suspected
Mar 8, 2023	Sandy Shocks restricted via suspect, New item-based forme changes added
Mar 10, 2023	Roaring Moon restricted
Mar 13, 2023	Rusted Sword quickbanned, Roaring Moon unrestricted
Mar 20, 2023	Dragapult restricted, Terastallization suspected
Apr 6, 2023	Terastallization banned via suspect
May 7, 2023	Gholdengo suspected
May 18, 2023	Gholdengo suspect cancelled
May 20, 2023	Gholdengo restricted
May 30, 2023	Pokémon HOME is live, Sandy Shocks, Koraidon, Kilowattrel, Urshifu-Rapid-Strike unrestricted
May 31, 2023	Koraidon quickbanned, Gholdengo unrestricted
June 2, 2023	Kyogre quickbanned, Zapdos, Sneasler, Kilowattrel restricted
June 10, 2023	Eternatus quickbanned, Basculegion-M restricted
June 18, 2023	Gholdengo, Urshifu-Rapid-Strike restricted
July 13, 2023	Magearna suspected
July 25, 2023	Magearna remains unrestricted via suspect
July 27, 2023	Pidgeotite suspected
Aug 9, 2023	Pidgeotite banned via suspect, Zapdos unrestricted
Sept 22, 2023	Manaphy restricted
Sept 23, 2023	Ogerpon Masks are added as transformation items
Oct 19, 2023	Ursaluna-Bloodmoon restricted
Oct 22, 2023	Jolteon suspected
Nov 7, 2023	Jolteon restricted by suspect, Enamorus restricted
Dec 16, 2023	DLC 2 is live, Eternatus unbanned, Urshifu-Rapid-Strike unrestricted
Jan 29, 2024	Eternatus suspected
Feb 12, 2024	Eternatus remains unbanned via suspect
Mar 7, 2024	Urshifu-Rapid-Strike suspected
Mar 23, 2024	Urshifu-Rapid-Strike remains unrestricted via suspect
May 5, 2024	Gouging Fire suspected
May 20, 2024	Gouging Fire restricted via suspect
May 27, 2024	Red Orb suspected
June 11, 2024	Red Orb banned via suspect
June 13, 2024	Enamorus, Jolteon unrestricted
July 1, 2024	Solgaleo restricted
July 20, 2024	Kilowattrel unrestricted
Nov 9, 2024	Lugia suspected
Nov 25, 2024	Lugia restricted via suspect
Dec 12, 2024	Aggronite changed
Jan 6, 2025	Dragapult suspected
Jan 30, 2025	Dragapult unrestricted via suspect
Feb 3, 2025	Plates, Memories & Drives are added as transformation items

Thank you Slither Wing you really first my impressions

 

[QT]

Mini VR Update! Nothing major has changed since the last slate, but we've got some rises and drops to reflect shifting metagame trends.

Rises

Walking Wake A to A+
Ceruledge A- to A
Pecharunt A- to A
Milotic B to B+
Zamazenta B to B+
Entei UR to B
Iron Treads UR to B-

drops

Regieleki S to A+
Arceus Ground A+ to A
Urshifu-RS A+ to A
Sandy Shocks A- to B+
Samurott-H B+ to B

 

[Siamato]

Nominating for C rank

Don't get me wrong, this mon isn't good. However, after playing it for a while cuz it seemed to be funny, I can quite confidently tell you that it gets a niche there.

A few things make it interesting:

- Has an insane special bulk able to withstand hits like Hpump from Lucar/Diancite Wake.
- Somehow resist pixispeed (be careful of Supercell Slam Eleki pre-mega, EQ from Dnite, Fire STAB from HK9 or Entei pre-mega).
- Is a consistent switch-in to Eternatus being able to pivot out.
- Is a consistent switch-in to Magearna but doesn't threat it much (Heat Wave annoys it at least).
- Is a consistent switch-in to Darkrai, Kilo, Kommo-o, Stail (non Psychic coverage) and Zapdos
- Is a switch-in to Raging Bolt, Moth and Spectrier but his likely to lose 1v1 so it's more of a pivot against them.
- Decent Garga check by virtue of double resist to IronPress + only takes 12,5% from Salt Cure. Can threat poison if Psalt has been removed.
- Can force out a few Arceus-form by virtue of threatening poison and being able to withstand Judgment at +1.
- Very useful ability pre-mega able to spread poison by just clicking U-Turn which is super valuable against bulky teams or bulky setup.

I ran Manectite cuz I already had a user of Sablenite. I think both are fine as well as Latiasite (even though Fezan is still quite bad against some common Ground, even with Levitate). Venu is prob okayish too being able to handle Weavile or Pixispeed Fire type more consistently.

Fezandipiti (M) @ Manectite 
Ability: Toxic Chain 
Tera Type: Poison 
EVs: 248 HP / 104 Def / 156 SpD 
Calm Nature 
- Sludge Bomb 
- Heat Wave 
- U-turn 
- Roost

 

[zastra]

The transformation item guide is now updated! New items (plates/memories/drives) have been added, mentions of Red Orb and other banned things removed, and Rusted Sword has been moved from banned to offensive items category. I've also added all the latest metagame trends in writeups, edited in sprites of common users, and made a few shifts in categories. There's also a new spoiler on top items now. If you notice any mistakes, please DM me!