Alrighty, so I managed to obtain frame 116 with a desired nature using the radio method, but I'm curious - does the Pokemon Talk advance by something like 14-14-14-14-14 or 14-17-16-15-16 (at random)? As in 14 frames, then another 14 frames, etc.
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Pokemon talk advances by 13-14 frames. So sometimes it'll be 13, sometimes it'll be 14. Or sometimes it'll be all 1 and none of the other.
Also, it seems to be that the frame advancement for a certain seed will always be the same.
Say you had 1234ABCD, and you use Pokemon talk 5 times and it advances 14 times each time.
Every time you use that seed it will always advance the 14 for those 5 uses.
RNG as normal. Assume it's frame is 1. When you capture it, see if it's nature, shiny (if you were aiming for it), and IV's match what you were aiming for, if not. See what they are and see where they are in that seed.
And that'll be what your calibrated frame for Latios is.
Oh OK, but they said that Latios' frame would be inconsistent when you released it, unlike Entei and Raikou which will have 1 and 6 frames, 6 and 1 frames, or everything. How would I know it? Because I'm afraid that I might hit a wrong seed even though I'm hitting the right seed because of the frame. :)
Hi. I need some help hitting the correct delay, I'm trying to breed a shiny egg. I have a frame of 1. I need to hit a target time of 11:24:14 (Which I did a couple of times) and a Delay of 535. But the problem is, whenever I hit the target time, I don't hit the correct delay, but instead I hit a delay that's around 490-500, and once I hit a delay of 565. I'm always hitting adjacent seeds, so I know I'm on the right track. And I am using Pika Timer as well :]
So, any tips on how to more easily hit a delay, or is it just random? Thanks.
Edit: Wow, I just hit an adjacent seed that was 11:24:14 (My target time) with a 533 delay (2 away from my wanted delay xD)
So, any tips on how to more easily hit a delay, or is it just random? Thanks.
Edit: Wow, I just hit an adjacent seed that was 11:24:14 (My target time) with a 533 delay (2 away from my wanted delay xD)
hi, i found one that helped me to accurately hit mine. Notice how there are beeping sounds when the first timer hits 2,1,0,"HIT" and how the second one reaches 9,8,7,...,2,1,0,"HIT" after the word hit, you need to press the A button to enter to the game. It's like following with the rhythm of the beeping sounds. hope this helps.
oh and it's helpful for us if you may post what game are you trying to rng the shiny egg.
What are you trying to capture\hatch? Makuhita with the spread 31/31/31/3/31/31 with
31/B/31/3/A/A
What is your target seed and frame? What is the delay of that seed?
Seed: 2402030A, Delay: 768, Frame 9
How did you verify your seed? If using Elm's responses or coin flips to verify, tell us what YOU got. Not what RNG Reporter says. I used Elm Calls. I just got what I needed. First two were passed and then I got KKKPKE (that's until frame 8).
If you tried and failed, what results did you get? You NEED to know this so you can figure out what went wrong. Results are either the IV\nature of the Pokemon you caught, or an ID\SID if you are attempting ID\SID abuse.
I got frame 11 with 19/11/A/21/B/B, so I just passed two frames. What do I wrong?
31/B/31/3/A/A
What is your target seed and frame? What is the delay of that seed?
Seed: 2402030A, Delay: 768, Frame 9
How did you verify your seed? If using Elm's responses or coin flips to verify, tell us what YOU got. Not what RNG Reporter says. I used Elm Calls. I just got what I needed. First two were passed and then I got KKKPKE (that's until frame 8).
If you tried and failed, what results did you get? You NEED to know this so you can figure out what went wrong. Results are either the IV\nature of the Pokemon you caught, or an ID\SID if you are attempting ID\SID abuse.
I got frame 11 with 19/11/A/21/B/B, so I just passed two frames. What do I wrong?
Blame the NPC on the lower part of the map. I really get pissed off when I had my Elm Responses correct and this NPC fucks up my frames.
I don't think that's it, because I got this two times in a row, with frame 11. Just used another spread and I got him now. I think it's a split spread or something.
Hmm. I always wait a bit for the NPC to move around to know if it advanced my frame. But yea, RNG reporter isn't perfect and can make a bit of mistakes. So yeaaaaa, you can just restart. :P
Yes. It is on Method 1.
Hi, I'm back again! Ok, so I'm trying to RNG a Shiny Flawless Totodile on Soul Silver and I managed to hit my delay, and I hatched my egg to make sure it was shiny, and it was! So, now I'm going to RNG for IVs. I entered everything in the Egg IVs Time Finder, and then I clicked Generate, but no results showed up. And for some reason the month and year sections I can type in, but the day section is blocked out. Is that supposed to happen? And how come no results showed up? Thanks in advance.
Hid the responses so the post wasn't too long.
@UUWarrior:
@Princess Of Johto:
@UUWarrior:
For RNG captures:
Because if the spread you want only occurs once on a seed, then if the encounter slots do not match up for the Pokémon you're trying to catch on that occurrence, then you won't be able to obtain that Pokémon with that spread.
What synchronisers do is (most likely) increase the number of times your specific spread will occur on your speed, where each one has the potential for different encounter slots. This means you have a higher chance of finding an occurrence of your spread which matches up with the Pokémon you want to encounter.
I have no idea why for gifts... As far as I know, synchronisers make no difference to Method 1 created Pokémon (although this might have changed in Gen V, I'm not particularly up to date with the RNG research going on for that.
Because if the spread you want only occurs once on a seed, then if the encounter slots do not match up for the Pokémon you're trying to catch on that occurrence, then you won't be able to obtain that Pokémon with that spread.
What synchronisers do is (most likely) increase the number of times your specific spread will occur on your speed, where each one has the potential for different encounter slots. This means you have a higher chance of finding an occurrence of your spread which matches up with the Pokémon you want to encounter.
I have no idea why for gifts... As far as I know, synchronisers make no difference to Method 1 created Pokémon (although this might have changed in Gen V, I'm not particularly up to date with the RNG research going on for that.
@Princess Of Johto:
The Day and seconds sections should definitely be greyed out (although I still think the day one should be enterable, since quite often I'm looking to obtain + hatch a Pokémon on a specific date for asthetic reasons).
The reason no results come up is probably because you can't obtain a Pokémon with those IVs.
If you haven't given enough range of frames, then it's quite possible a certain month won't contain an occurrence of the IV spread you're requesting.
Also, if the parent's IVs aren't good enough to make up the A's and B's in the spreads (hopefully you understand that), then it also cannot occur. Almost always 3 IVs are passed down by the parents, and so if your parents don't have 3 good enough IVs between them, you won't be able to find a spread either.
The reason no results come up is probably because you can't obtain a Pokémon with those IVs.
If you haven't given enough range of frames, then it's quite possible a certain month won't contain an occurrence of the IV spread you're requesting.
Also, if the parent's IVs aren't good enough to make up the A's and B's in the spreads (hopefully you understand that), then it also cannot occur. Almost always 3 IVs are passed down by the parents, and so if your parents don't have 3 good enough IVs between them, you won't be able to find a spread either.
RNGReporter usually gives you more results with the spread you want when using a synch. For example, I could be using RNGReporter to search for something with a good spread and HP Ice 70. If I had a synch in my party, chances are a seed exists for it. If I'm not using a synch, I might not find a seed for it.
Synchronizers don't work on gift Pokemon as they are usually method 1, only Method J and K Pokemon are affected by synchronizers in fourth gen games.
I made a couple posts, and I'm still stuck and I was still hoping for some help. Here's the posts for referense:
Ive still got all the same issues, I was still hoping for some answers in those posts I made. I don't exactly know how to be more specific, so if you need to know more, just ask.
Ive still got all the same issues, I was still hoping for some answers in those posts I made. I don't exactly know how to be more specific, so if you need to know more, just ask.
I don't believe that the NPCs will affect the egg pid, they only affect the IVs (I did my RNG advancements for a shiny Totodile outside the daycare recently)
Make sure the happiness checker app isn't open when going in or out of a building as this will advance the frame. Other than that, you could find someone to check your SID.
I'll list all of the info which I got from the Shiny Egg finder under 4th Gen Time Finder in the RNG Reporter (version 8.31):
Seed: 19060260
Date: 2010 11 23
Time: 06:14:14
Delay: 598
PID: 421FC4A5
Nature: Jolly
Ability: 1
Gender: M
Flip Sequence: H,H,H,T,H,T,H,T,T,T
Taps: 3
Flips: 4
Also my IDs:
ID: 64377
SID: 32192
Remember, I did this exact same seed twice and got different results, both not shiny (and both were different from each other). I was very careful both times, but especially careful the second time. Yes, I did the 10 coin flips to check my seed and both times they were dead on (so the seed should have been correct).
I did not do them inside the daycare, but as said in the quote below, I did not think it effected the egg PID.
Both times I did this I made sure it wasn't open when I went in the daycare. I also made sure to only go to it once, as I read that if you land on it more than once (like with switching apps) it will advance the frame. So yeah I don't think it has anything to do with using the daycare app wrong.