What was the fix for this? I'm experiencing the same problem, on Toast's timer.
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What was the fix for this? I'm experiencing the same problem, on Toast's timer.
The fix was worked into mine. I've heard of a few people having that problem. Never had it myself. It shouldn't be possible, but for now, I believe Riski said you could move your minute forward to hit the correct second.
I tried using Toasts timer too but Elm Search found nothing again.
Can someone please tell me what bit I'm doing wrong?
I've run into this problem as well. To fix it, I set my target time back by a second.
Example: if I was trying to hit 50 and kept landing on 51, I'd change the target seconds to 49 and I'd land on 50.
What range are you putting in the seed to time window? i.e. +/- seconds +/- delays
Riski is the best to ask about this since I have done eggs in along time but here what I see.
You will never hit your delay because your calibrated delay is even and your target delay is odd. You will need to change the year in seed-to-time to 2009 or 2011, to get an odd delay or you will need a 3gen gba game.
And about the timer, instead of starting the game when the first delay is zero, you should Soft-reset(L+R+Start+select) in game when the timer hit zero and press A on the continue screen (the blue one) when the 2nd timer is zero.
Also in the seed to time function do your have your adjusted delay in the Seed to time finder to be at least +-50 and seconds to be +-1 and also have the "odd/even" box unchecked?
Edit: I was half-ninja'd x.x
Calibrated delay/seconds is kinda a joke. It's just the long way to figure out the delay between when you SR and when the delay clock starts ticking.
tl;dr even/oddness of the calibrated delay doesn't matter.
The number suggestions are good though.
Thankyou soooo much for your corrections and suggestions!
I have to go to work but I'll try this tomorrow!
I didnt have +-50 delay, i had +-10 delay. Seconds was +-1.
I have a dsi so I cannot use a 3gen gba game so I'll set the year to 2011.
One question though, what does the 'odd/even' box exactly do? I have it unchecked though ^^
Thanks again, I hope it works!
Edit: Thanks ToastPlusOne, didn't even see your post until after this lol. What do you mean by 'tl;dr even oddness of the calibrated delay doesn't matter'?
The adjusted delay doesnt really need to be 50 but it just to be enough to where you have a good range of delays to check
The odd/even box, show only odd or even delay beside on your target delay, your case if delay stay 677, odd
Edit: Even though I seen dsi I forgot the dsi doesnt have backwards compatibility
the bold statement is the only thing I have a problem with. Beside DP, if you dont know what whether your game hit odd/even then it make rng difficult.
Edit I think I know what you mean by the bold statement, but that still will make RNG a living hell, you will have to be constantly adjusting delays, where as with pikatimer, I have learned that I always adjust my delay to 18~28 making my rngs super quick.
Having and even or odd calibrated delay doesn't really matter as far as what you hit. You'll find out whether you hit even or odd as soon as you find out what you hit altogether. The delay range definitely needs to be opened up for now. Once you get it dialed in, you can move it to +/-10. If I were to guess, I'd say you'll find you were hitting around 30-50 over your target.
@DarkChaos' edit - Actually it does the opposite. It hasn't taken me longer than 3 tries to hit any seed. And I have never had to adjust it for delays < 1500. After that, I may have to change it by ~4. I'm not saying that hitting even or odd doesn't matter, but the true calibrated delay doesn't matter. And I'm not talking about the delay you hit a few times when you're button mashing. It's an actual length of time. I really have to write this all down somewhere sometime....
Edit 2: Why is my edit longer than the original post? Hmm..
I hit the right delay and second and miscounted all my frames. D: Because I suck at counting, I went to write a small counter app in Python 3.1. Copy and paste into a Notepad or into IDLE and run. Enjoy?
Speaking of which, how many frames does fishing advance frames by in SoulSilver?
Code:
from tkinter import *
root = Tk()
Label(root, text="Press Space to increment").pack()
v = IntVar()
L = Label(root, textvariable=v)
L.pack()
v.set(0)
def rezero(event):
v.set(0)
reset = Button(root, text="RESET")
reset.pack()
reset.bind("<1>", rezero)
boom = Button(root, text="QUIT", command=exit)
boom.pack()
def update(event):
temp = v.get()
v.set(temp+1)
root.bind("<space>", update)
root.mainloop()Speaking of which, how many frames does fishing advance frames by in SoulSilver?
I'm not sure if this is supposed to go here or not, but I'll assume it does.
I am trying to learn how to hatch shiny pokemon, http://www.smogon.com/ingame/rng/dpp_rng_part1 , following that guide, and most of it makes sense and I only have a couple of questions.
For the catching a pokemon level 50 or higher, since I'm on SoulSilver and there isn't many that high other than legendaries, would pretty much anything at Mt. Silver work? And would catching inside the actual Mt. Silver Cave be fine as well?
Also, where it says
I am trying to learn how to hatch shiny pokemon, http://www.smogon.com/ingame/rng/dpp_rng_part1 , following that guide, and most of it makes sense and I only have a couple of questions.
For the catching a pokemon level 50 or higher, since I'm on SoulSilver and there isn't many that high other than legendaries, would pretty much anything at Mt. Silver work? And would catching inside the actual Mt. Silver Cave be fine as well?
Also, where it says
Do you just estimate it based on what time it says at the start up screen for the actual DS or something else?
I had my Emerald for 5 years, but I never learned to RNG it, only the 4th Gen games I had, although I'm trying to study 3rd Gen RNG.
But I need a little help on some things...
For example, The IV set of 4/8/18/31/3/31, Method 1, is in the frame 79680 = time of 22:08.00.
Does that mean I have to wait for 22 hours (& 8 mins.) before pressing the A button, right?
...or does it mean 22 minutes and 8 seconds?
Another question... can I also abuse ID and SID in 3rd Gen too?
But I need a little help on some things...
For example, The IV set of 4/8/18/31/3/31, Method 1, is in the frame 79680 = time of 22:08.00.
Does that mean I have to wait for 22 hours (& 8 mins.) before pressing the A button, right?
...or does it mean 22 minutes and 8 seconds?
Another question... can I also abuse ID and SID in 3rd Gen too?
ID and SID abuse can't be done in Gen III, although I was working on it for a while.
The ID is created when you click OK to the "IS THIS YOU" phrase. The SID is created just before you gain control of you character. It also changes frame by frame, but other than that, I've not got very far... :P
As far as the other thing goes. 22:08:00 refers to HH:MM:SS, so 22hours, and 8 minutes.
22:00:08 would be 22 hours, 8 seconds.
The ID is created when you click OK to the "IS THIS YOU" phrase. The SID is created just before you gain control of you character. It also changes frame by frame, but other than that, I've not got very far... :P
As far as the other thing goes. 22:08:00 refers to HH:MM:SS, so 22hours, and 8 minutes.
22:00:08 would be 22 hours, 8 seconds.
If you go inside Mt. Silver, Rock Climb the ledge, then go outside, there are pokemon at level 50+. Just have your lead pokemon be level 50 and use a repel, save in the grass. That's how I've done it in SoulSilver. Hope this helps. ^__^;
And yup, it's the start-up screen to the DS, basically. I think it's actually the time on the DS at the moment you enter the game world, but those will usually be the same unless you SR too close the end of a minute or something.
Sorry if I made things more confusing, or am ill-informed, but this has worked for me so I think I'm right, right? XD
So i have joineed the smogon community! and i need someones help haha. I am trying to figure ou this whole RNG thing and i'm kind of lost. I am playing Pokemon Diamond and i have already caught a random shiny(geodude) and pretty sure i found out my SID(18512) and my trainer id is (08520). Pretty much from there on i get lost. My target Pokemon is a Shiny Dialga w/ Mild nature(i have a mild abra to synch if it's needed), the IV's don't really matter to me as much as changing the date very far behind or ahead. Is there anyone who is well versed in RNG'ing that can maybe walk me through what i need to do in a non complex manner lol.
oh and i tried the calibration phase a little but don't know what i need to take note of really. I tried last night at 12:35AM a few times and caught a pokemon and put its iv's into the rng reporter and i would always get 14 seconds with around 620-630 delay, i only tried like 3 times but each time i got a different nature pokemon and different IV's. am i supposed to be getting the same IV's each time or is it supposed to be different? or does it not matter.. lol any help will be greatly appreciated!
oh and i tried the calibration phase a little but don't know what i need to take note of really. I tried last night at 12:35AM a few times and caught a pokemon and put its iv's into the rng reporter and i would always get 14 seconds with around 620-630 delay, i only tried like 3 times but each time i got a different nature pokemon and different IV's. am i supposed to be getting the same IV's each time or is it supposed to be different? or does it not matter.. lol any help will be greatly appreciated!
Hey I read your post about this somewhere but I cannot find it. I started to RNG again today tried about 15 times and starting to get the hang of it. But I noticed a few things.
I'm on the year 2011, my target delay is 492 (even) and I keep hitting odd delays (493) and now after a few adjustments on the PikaTimer, I am hitting 1 second behind?
E.G. Target: 08:18:50 492. What i got was 08:18:49 493
Thanks if you can help ^^
Edit: Facepalm TT__TT; You posted it right at the top of this page lol. Uhhm but the question about the odd delay, do I move a year forward?
The Mild synch Abra will probably be needed. Do you have a spread picked out, or do you need help finding one?
And that's basically what the calibration step is. You know what your seconds will always be, and a rough estimate of your delay. That's what the calibration step does, is figure that stuff out. Nothing else.
First read the Introduction, Part2 and Part4 Dppt guideon the first page as well as bearfan videos for they will be helpful to you.
Doing calibrations (to figure out your delay and seconds), the pokemon nature, ability, ivs, and etc... will be random, for you not looking for a pokemon just your game delay and the seconds it take to enter the world.
Make sure you are doing your calibrations correctly by :
setting your game to a clock
resetting your game when it become the next minute
and quickly enter the game (and error on your part will result in inaccurate data)
from what you posted, you seconds without a doubt is 14 but your delay is 620-630. You can either
A: Do the calibration 7 more times
or B Go to the next steps.
To start the preparations you will need:
The journal
Poketch 15 coin flip
a mild sync
5 pokemon in your party including the sync
the rng reporter
Enter the game
Make sure you have 2 journal pages that said you either capture or defeated a pokemon
Go to spear pillar and stand 1 step before dialga, before the animation start.
But the mild sync in your lead
Save the game.
Now you will need to find a seed
The quickest way to find a seed is by Wichu Dppt pokerng on the first page of this thread.
Following the promted instruction and the program will give you seeds in the form of txt or csv file
Open either file and copy the seed," it will say seed: "XXXXXXXX"" and copy the 8 digit seed into the rngreporter.
Once you copy the seed, select method J and select mild sync and click generate.
The you will find your seed.
You will want to find a odd frame, if no odd frame available then you find an even frame.
Once you found the frame you want select seed to time and find a time you wish to capture dialga.
Once you found the date that enter the game on the wanted date and save again, to prevent the journal from popping up.
More than likely the delay will be more than 700+ you will need to use a timer
Your can either use toast timer or pikatimer, the instruction are on there download page.
(Reading the guides will be helpful for I will skip step now)
While trying to hit your delay use the coin flip app to see what delay you hit and once you hit your target delay do the necessary advancement then fight and capture dialga.
Doing calibrations (to figure out your delay and seconds), the pokemon nature, ability, ivs, and etc... will be random, for you not looking for a pokemon just your game delay and the seconds it take to enter the world.
Make sure you are doing your calibrations correctly by :
setting your game to a clock
resetting your game when it become the next minute
and quickly enter the game (and error on your part will result in inaccurate data)
from what you posted, you seconds without a doubt is 14 but your delay is 620-630. You can either
A: Do the calibration 7 more times
or B Go to the next steps.
To start the preparations you will need:
The journal
Poketch 15 coin flip
a mild sync
5 pokemon in your party including the sync
the rng reporter
Enter the game
Make sure you have 2 journal pages that said you either capture or defeated a pokemon
Go to spear pillar and stand 1 step before dialga, before the animation start.
But the mild sync in your lead
Save the game.
Now you will need to find a seed
The quickest way to find a seed is by Wichu Dppt pokerng on the first page of this thread.
Following the promted instruction and the program will give you seeds in the form of txt or csv file
Open either file and copy the seed," it will say seed: "XXXXXXXX"" and copy the 8 digit seed into the rngreporter.
Once you copy the seed, select method J and select mild sync and click generate.
The you will find your seed.
You will want to find a odd frame, if no odd frame available then you find an even frame.
Once you found the frame you want select seed to time and find a time you wish to capture dialga.
Once you found the date that enter the game on the wanted date and save again, to prevent the journal from popping up.
More than likely the delay will be more than 700+ you will need to use a timer
Your can either use toast timer or pikatimer, the instruction are on there download page.
(Reading the guides will be helpful for I will skip step now)
While trying to hit your delay use the coin flip app to see what delay you hit and once you hit your target delay do the necessary advancement then fight and capture dialga.
Hi,
I am still trying to RNG a shiny grimer. After about 2 hours I finally verified my seed with the elm calls. Straight afterwards I talked to the daycare lady and put in my parents (ditto and grimer). Then I got the egg and hatched it. It was not shiny.
What did I do wrong?
Thanks
Edit: Can someone please try to do this seed for a shiny pokemon Nature: Docile? - CF0F0231 (year 2011, 50 seconds)
If you are successful can you pleeeaaseee tell me how you did it. I have been doing this for 3 hours now and I face so many problems.
1. The delay I get is ALWAYS odd, and I am trying to get an even.
2. It is always 1 second behind so I put my ds clock one minute forward.
3. I havn't calibrated because the first page said it was old and useless so I have to wait for the pikatimer to get to 0 so I can't precisely hit the delay because of my poor timing.
Thanks if you can help
I am still trying to RNG a shiny grimer. After about 2 hours I finally verified my seed with the elm calls. Straight afterwards I talked to the daycare lady and put in my parents (ditto and grimer). Then I got the egg and hatched it. It was not shiny.
What did I do wrong?
Thanks
Edit: Can someone please try to do this seed for a shiny pokemon Nature: Docile? - CF0F0231 (year 2011, 50 seconds)
If you are successful can you pleeeaaseee tell me how you did it. I have been doing this for 3 hours now and I face so many problems.
1. The delay I get is ALWAYS odd, and I am trying to get an even.
2. It is always 1 second behind so I put my ds clock one minute forward.
3. I havn't calibrated because the first page said it was old and useless so I have to wait for the pikatimer to get to 0 so I can't precisely hit the delay because of my poor timing.
Thanks if you can help
You will never hit an even delay, Skeptyks, unless you put a Pokémon GBA game in if you don't already have it in, or take it out if you do have one in. You can raise or lower the year on the DS by one to make the delay you're trying to hit odd, but you'll never hit an even delay.
Also, do you have your SID, Skeptyk? A Pokémon is only shiny if (HPID xor LPID) xor (ID xor SID) < 8. In other words, a Pokémon you hatch or catch probably won't be shiny for a different person who hatched or caught the same Pokémon.
Also, for RNG Abusing Pokéradar Pokémon -- how do you pick a spread? I know how the PID for chained Pokémon is generated, and it doesn't look like you can just "pick a spread" like you normally would. :\ And do you actually have to chain a shiny all the way before you can start abusing its IVs, or is there a way to abuse for a shiny patch?
Also, do you have your SID, Skeptyk? A Pokémon is only shiny if (HPID xor LPID) xor (ID xor SID) < 8. In other words, a Pokémon you hatch or catch probably won't be shiny for a different person who hatched or caught the same Pokémon.
Also, for RNG Abusing Pokéradar Pokémon -- how do you pick a spread? I know how the PID for chained Pokémon is generated, and it doesn't look like you can just "pick a spread" like you normally would. :\ And do you actually have to chain a shiny all the way before you can start abusing its IVs, or is there a way to abuse for a shiny patch?
1) If your delay is odd, it will always be odd. Sorries. Switch the years on RNG Reporter so the delay turns out odd for you :)
2)If it is always one second behind, you can just enter what you in as your calibrated second instead of switching the minute :)
3) Use Toastplusone's timer :)
2)If it is always one second behind, you can just enter what you in as your calibrated second instead of switching the minute :)
3) Use Toastplusone's timer :)
THanks both for your replies, I can't quote both.
So you are saying since I have a dsi I should ALWAYS look for a target delay that is ODD?
I find ToastPlusOnes timer very hard to use... I try to listen for the beep that hits 0 like the PikaTimer but I cannot. I find pikatimer's beeps easier for me to press a on 0 seconds.
Furthermore, I really am not sure of what you guys mean by the even/odd delay thing.
Oh and yes I do have my SID, i got 2 people with ar's to find them for me