I'm pretty sure it's either play A LOT or lose. =/ It sucks...
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I'm having a similar problem, although my dev is a lot lower (like 46.5) and my rating is not as good as yours (like 1790). Does anyone know the exact time that this testing period ends tomorrow? I don't want to risk dropping my rating once I reach a deviation of below 45 and miss upper reqs. If not lower reqs are alright I guess, but it'd be nice to not have to write paragraphs especially in exam time!
12 pm tomorrow. I had the same issue, I don't want to drop out of reqs because I quit pretty early instead of passing them too much. I'm at like 1781/48 or something. I just don't feel like going any higher. That and I don't want to drop out because of hax. Meh.
Edit: 800th post...for my reference. =)
Edit: 800th post...for my reference. =)
If I were to name any Pokemon THE most deadly Pokemon currently in UU I would say Sceptile. I haven't used him this round due to my lack of playing this round... but from what I've seen EVERY set (specifically SD and SubSeed) of his would straight up dominate a majority of the meta. Sure it's theorymon but it doesn't take a genius to know whats what.
Woah... it's been a rough day but I barely made reqs.
Just a question you guys, if we do vote for No suspects... Is that it? The end of this UU megathreads?
Meh, these stats were bogus. Nobody dropped, and Umbreon is further wedge up the OU tier.
PS: I seriously wish Hera was in UU, we'd have something to talk about.
Just a question you guys, if we do vote for No suspects... Is that it? The end of this UU megathreads?
Meh, these stats were bogus. Nobody dropped, and Umbreon is further wedge up the OU tier.
PS: I seriously wish Hera was in UU, we'd have something to talk about.
Sceptile is indeed a BAMF on wheels, and I'd have a hard time making an offensive team without him.
I'm surprised that the spikers are so low - we've got Omastar at #34, Coyster at #42, and Qwilfish at #47. Seems people have finally given up their hope of spikestacking without Froslass.
Also, Houndoom and Toxicroak are #1 best buds for each other. Surprise, surprise.
I'm surprised that the spikers are so low - we've got Omastar at #34, Coyster at #42, and Qwilfish at #47. Seems people have finally given up their hope of spikestacking without Froslass.
Also, Houndoom and Toxicroak are #1 best buds for each other. Surprise, surprise.
Im having the same deviation issues, which I've never had before tbh. I made upper reqs a long time ago and haven't looked for a while, nor played for like a week and a half, and now Im at 1810/ 52 :/
And I'm with you PK, without anything super broken in the metagame we're stuck discussing things that have been around forever, silly gimmicks, and serious discussions of banning Milotic.
And I'm with you PK, without anything super broken in the metagame we're stuck discussing things that have been around forever, silly gimmicks, and serious discussions of banning Milotic.
I don't see why the megathread should go away. It's here to discuss shifts and trends in the metagame, which can and do still happen even when there are no suspect. For example, we could discuss all the dumbasses running around with copies of my team, or the sharp increase in Mespirit leads and how that'll shift the anti-lead metagame, or any number of other topics. The only beneficial aspect of not having the megathread here is that all the people lurking it will be forced to come up with their own damn ideas instead of just bandwagoning on the latest thing someone posted here.
I was a bit surprised looking at the usage stats this month and finding that Alakzam doesn't even use Encore 20% of the time. It's a great move to allow a free switch in or set up ( although i'm running 3 attacks + Encore), and is IMO a much better move to use then either Signal Beam or Shadow Ball considering they still don't let Zam beat spritomb at all.
Also speaking in support of Encore. Encore is one of the best support moves availible, right up there with entry hazards and sleep moves. I remember IB using an Encore + 3 attacks Zam in the Cress meta that shut down those ridiculous SubCM Cress and any other non-speed boosting set-up. With LO and 3 attacks, Zam maintains its massive power and great coverage. Zam gets extra props for being the fastest Encore user in UU, which gives it many more oppurtunities to stop set-uppers in their tracks.
I've also been using Encore Poliwrath recently, and I've found decent success by pairing it with Scyther. Poliwrath can come in on many of the bulky waters of UU (unfortunately a crapload of Azumarill are now running Double-Edge) and set up a free Sub. Venu is one of the most popular switches to Poliwrath, who can then safely Encore the Energy Ball/Earthquake/Power Whip from behind his Sub. Scyther gets a free switch-in AND a free SD, setting up a great oppurtunity for a sweep. This strategy works with any given move that lets any given sweeper set up for free.
Encore's uses are twofold, as it can both stop set-up and help set up your own team. Good stuff.
Hey guys, I haven't been able to play a lot due to being busy with life, but I noticed that my team had become bog standard. So, i tryed some just for fun stuff. I recently tried a team under an alt desinged to be a gimmick consisting of 2 pursuit users and 3 pokemon designed to abuse that, things like choice band normals and fighters.
It was awesome! So many things rely solely on frail ghosts. They aren't prepared to take repeated bludgenings. They get surprised when their offensive venasaur is outsped and 2hkoed by CB hitmonlee, and defensive ones take enough that houndoom can come in to pursuit it into range.
I have used several different sweepers, such as: CB hitmonlee, CB tauros (if you have 2 fighters, the opponet will often sac registeel early on.), subflail pinsir (this thing is so god. if stall lets it get a sub it's an auto gg), CB Kanghaskhan (excellent at luring out ghosts and counters early on to pursuit) Moltres (pusuit that damn slowking, milotic eats a houndoom thunderfang), scarfken, zangoose (little luke), etc.
I'm curious to see, if nothing gets enough suspect votes, the next metagame won't be any different. We'll finally have balance. Then hera will drop down and it'll take 9 months to settle, one month of settle, then B&W will come. At least umbreon is rising in OU, I hated that thing.
It was awesome! So many things rely solely on frail ghosts. They aren't prepared to take repeated bludgenings. They get surprised when their offensive venasaur is outsped and 2hkoed by CB hitmonlee, and defensive ones take enough that houndoom can come in to pursuit it into range.
I have used several different sweepers, such as: CB hitmonlee, CB tauros (if you have 2 fighters, the opponet will often sac registeel early on.), subflail pinsir (this thing is so god. if stall lets it get a sub it's an auto gg), CB Kanghaskhan (excellent at luring out ghosts and counters early on to pursuit) Moltres (pusuit that damn slowking, milotic eats a houndoom thunderfang), scarfken, zangoose (little luke), etc.
I'm curious to see, if nothing gets enough suspect votes, the next metagame won't be any different. We'll finally have balance. Then hera will drop down and it'll take 9 months to settle, one month of settle, then B&W will come. At least umbreon is rising in OU, I hated that thing.
I really do like encore especially with Clefable. It helps set things up. Only problem I can see with your scenario is someone switching out Venusaur after the encore because it's obvious you wouldn't leave Poliwrath in on a faster Energy ball that could KO you after you just used Substitute. I personally would switch a bulky water in for fear of a fire type coming in to absorb the "predicted" Energy ball and set up, in particular a Houndoom. Then again, not a lot of people probably would do that. Just saying Encore isn't that reliable for setting things up, but definitely has its uses at forcing switches with people that aren't that cautious.
I tried it with 4 fighters a spiritomb lure in Uxie utilizing Toxic to neutralize it, and a pursuiter in Skuntank. LO Medicham just puts the beating on everything. Even Milotic is 2KOed. Slowbro is 2KOed by Thunder Punch after SR. Nothing can really stand up to it with ghosts out of the way. I dunno if Gallade was like this about 3 rounds ago, since I never tried it, but with all of the things I heard about it you could say it's much like Gallade.
I tried it with 4 fighters a spiritomb lure in Uxie utilizing Toxic to neutralize it, and a pursuiter in Skuntank. LO Medicham just puts the beating on everything. Even Milotic is 2KOed. Slowbro is 2KOed by Thunder Punch after SR. Nothing can really stand up to it with ghosts out of the way. I dunno if Gallade was like this about 3 rounds ago, since I never tried it, but with all of the things I heard about it you could say it's much like Gallade.
Fastest Encore in the game, actually.
The thing I don't like about Encore + 3 attacks is that it leaves Zam extremely exposed to threats. Substitute blocks it from priority and helps ease prediction so you can hit Absol with a Signal Beam instead of randomly Psychicing Venusaur while it switches out and being vulnerable. That's just me. I do use Encore on Zam with Calm Mind though, the utility is a lot more useful than the coverage move when you can cover that up with your other teammates.
I was stunned when I saw sceptile so high on the usage thing...
Choice specs is still the most used item which is the set I don't really like. -2 leaf storm is set up bait as is getting stuck on shit like hp ice and focus blast's accuracy will just make me rage.
I have used the SD set in the past and the power output is "meh" to be nice.
I really like a mixed set (LS, hp ice, EQ, RS) best to be honest or the tried and true leech seed (with leaf storm and hp ice not the physical version) version.
Choice specs is still the most used item which is the set I don't really like. -2 leaf storm is set up bait as is getting stuck on shit like hp ice and focus blast's accuracy will just make me rage.
I have used the SD set in the past and the power output is "meh" to be nice.
I really like a mixed set (LS, hp ice, EQ, RS) best to be honest or the tried and true leech seed (with leaf storm and hp ice not the physical version) version.
Choice Specs is great on Sceptile if you have excellent prediction; it manages to 2-shot all but the most defensive Venusaur with a supereffective HP and pretty much everything else is horribly maimed by SpecsStorm or Fail Blast. Take a priority hit and get into Overgrow range and shit will go down. That said, I'm saddened by the lack of Dragon Pulse; it's way better than energy ball as a fourth move option, because it lets you seriously hurt things with minimum prediction.
You realize it's 1775/45 for upper req's right?
And yea I was at like 1900/55 and I literally just opened 5 battles at a time with a joke team (worse than my other ones) and lost them until I was at like 1800/43
This is why I think this deviation thing is flawed and should not be required, because it's just asking you to play well enough so that you can spam losses at the end and still make the rating requirements. IMO Raise the rating to 1825 and keep deviation at 50 or something.
Lol @ Fail Blast. But seriously, it really does hit hard, especially if you can get rid of shit like Registeel. And after that you can just spam Energy Balls all day long. It actually is mega setup bait though, especially at -4 or something. Dragon Pulse is interesting...it gets great neutral coverage and is wonderful for spamming, especially if you catch an offensive Venu on the switch...
Yes I do. That was a type xD. I believe it was 1781/44. Whoops...either way, I have upper reqs on two accounts and my first didn't fall out, so I'm safe. =)
I can tell you what is wrong with the megathread. Most of the posts aren't "metagame trends" but rather "here is the random shit I am using, what about you?"
btw, I am using Curse/Rest/Seed Bomb/Rock Slide Cradily
btw, I am using Curse/Rest/Seed Bomb/Rock Slide Cradily
Loltheironyceptitsnot.
Honestly now, this tier needs something. Gosh, what I wouldn't give to see something like Roserade drop again.
Edit: I'm using Thund's amazing Sub Hitmonlee. Sub / Stone Edge / Close Combat / Mach punch.
I wonder if Roserade would take the number one spot if it dropped. I mean Venu has the SD set and better bulk on its side while Rosey has better SpA and Spikes/Toxic Spikes. Anyways if it drops it gives me another reason to run Zam again so let it drop.
And why are you using Stone Edge foo? How many times has it missed for you? You're not getting passed Spiritomb so just use Rock Slide so Scyther and Moltres don't LOL as you miss (oh and Missy can just Sub as Fail Edge loves missing). And Sucker Punch > Mach Punch IMO. It pwns Rotom as you Sub on the switch.
I've been using dual TrickScarfers in Lopunny and Slowbro. I use it mid game and when the TIME IS RIGHT. I can't stress this enough but people just throw Trick around and expect it to help them out when they could have utilized it 10x better. That and no one expects Trick from Slowbro. Also Lopunny is like the best supporter with Heal Bell, Switcheroo, and of course Encore which fucks over pretty much everything (and it loves Subperior). A dry Baton Pass is the icing on the cake and gives you the advantage similar to U-turn. I suggest people try it out.
Poké that hits like a fucking truck, has base 90 speed, thus the option of outrunning all those base 80s; added to Natural Cure and the possibility of beating Chansey with an all special moveset? YES PLEASE, SIR! (not happening though).
Oh and I suppose you mean SpecsBro... right ._.?
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