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np: UU Suspect Test Round 2 - Cold As Ice
- Thread starter JabbaTheGriffin
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But the round 3 could just be started now? If someone gets caught using unalloyed Pokemon he can simply get banned or something? Like in Wifi battles, you can't stop people from using "legal hacks" with unreleased or wrong abilities there right? Well, the difference here is that people can get logs and proof of the opponent using unalloyed Pokes.
"Round 3" is just a thread right? Can't you just reset the UU rankings and post the Round 3 thread?
"Round 3" is just a thread right? Can't you just reset the UU rankings and post the Round 3 thread?
Unfortunately they can't do that, because a suspect testing round is just that-to see which pokemon are broken or not.
If we allowed broken pokemon into the metagame, then there wouldn't be a point in the rounds. Also, I believe that it's a lot simpler to just patch up the scripts instead of making people who use broken pokes auto-banned (don't quote me on that, I know next to nothing about coding D:).
Finally, there are far too many people on smogon to have a reporting system like that; the mods would probably get overwhelmed depending on how many pokes really are allowed.
Would we get banned if we do it just to tell the mods what pokemon broke through? I mean I don't think it's abuse as long as we tell them about ALL the pokes, it's more like playtesting.
EDIT:I'm digging sand teams at the moment, how do you guys think they fare in the metagame at the moment? Sure it's kind of inaccurate at this point, since we're in a sort of round-limbo, but still.
Thats assuming you know Heracross is a CB variant, with that massive power, you should never assume CB, as you could very well find yourself in a massive hole because Scarf Heracross picked off your Crobat or SD Heracross smashed through your Zapdos.
Eviolite Gligar? Also getting Crobat in on either of Heracross's STABs? There's no lack of Pokemon who can survive a resisted hit, outspeed and OHKO either, e.g. Azelf and Close Combat.
I'm personally hoping we get rid of chansey. I quit OU because it was boring and never fun. Chansey is ruining UU for me. I can't stand it! Sure some of you may say, just use a physical sweeper. Not that simple. There are other mons that can wall me. And these cores are so annoying. Chansey needs to go. Period.
Pretty sure you'd still get banned since you're still using what shouldn't be allowed - even if that wasn't really your intention. Since at this point they're not exactly asking for a report of anything that may have went through since the scripts aren't finished, i.e. its not at all a surprise to see such and such mon being able to be played at UU when it is clearly an UBER because scripts aren't done. When the scripts are finished then you can begin reporting what may have gone through so as to help out until then its not really going to help and will just get you banned.
Edit: As Oglemi already replied we just have to be patient and wait for the programmers to finish the script.
I find it easy to work around the Choiced variants of Heracross, because you basically know they will either use Megahorn or CC, go to a steel or crobat for megahorn and a psychic for CC and its really no problem.
Switch in Cresselia to a locked CC, throw up a Reflect and laugh every where.
Switch in Cresselia to a locked CC, throw up a Reflect and laugh every where.
Heracross, imo, has the same problem that Flygon had in gen 4 OU: He has to be scarfed to be efficient. Nonscarfed Flygons were outclassed by every other dragon, until they were banned, with Flygon only having U-turn as a niche. For heracross, the choiced versions are easy to counter, all you have to do is predict well (if your running wish chansey or any wisher, protect is huge against heracross). If heracross is not scarfed, he is insanely easy to deal with as a base 85 speed is not that good in this meta.
Edit: Agreed with Cherub, there are several good switches, but Dusclops is by far, the best switch as it even laughs off Night slash.
Edit: Agreed with Cherub, there are several good switches, but Dusclops is by far, the best switch as it even laughs off Night slash.
dusclops is a very reliable switchin to any heracross
While Dusclops can come in onto Heracross and laugh at whatever it does, what exactly can it accomplish? You can't burn it, and Heracross can just switch out. >.>
Why can't Dusclops burn it? Even with a Guts boost Heracross isn't beating Dusclops... Guts Adamant Choice Scarf Night Slash against Bold 252 HP / 252 Def Eviolite Dusclops 35.2% - 41.5% (Heracross shouldn't even be using Night Slash anyways this was just an example, most carry Pursuit instead.) Also, even if Heracross can just switch out you can always presume there's hazards on the field to whittle down Heracross' HP.
Um, you can Night Shade/Seismic Toss it, and Rest/Pain Split when things get ugly. Of course Dusclops beats Heracross. And it doesn't suck, it has MASSIVE defenses, best spinblocker in the game IMO.
Also, lets talk Offensive RestTalk Heracross. That thing is a bloody beast. What do you think is the best teammate for it? And Offensive Roserade doesn't get enough credit. Only problem is stuff like Fire types, but a simple LO set with Leaf Storm, Sludge Bomb, Sleep Powder and Rest is really powerful. People always expect the SpDef Spiker, which is weak as hell
Also, lets talk Offensive RestTalk Heracross. That thing is a bloody beast. What do you think is the best teammate for it? And Offensive Roserade doesn't get enough credit. Only problem is stuff like Fire types, but a simple LO set with Leaf Storm, Sludge Bomb, Sleep Powder and Rest is really powerful. People always expect the SpDef Spiker, which is weak as hell
can't cofagrigus stop heracross too? Huge defense, resists moves hera uses, and herecross won't like losing guts especially if he's burned or something.
Problem with Cofagrigus is that it has no good recovery. I don't think it even gets Pain Split. Rest is pretty much it, and with no Sleep Talk, it's pretty much required to run Wish on the same team. At least Dusclops has Pain Split and ResTalk as options.
Hm, I don't want to sift through 25 pages of "discussion", but BlizzSpam is really good at the moment. All you have to do is get rid of Chansey, and you can do that by using Wynaut + Dugtrio. There are plenty of good BlizzSpammers in UU as well, like Abomasnow itself, Rotom-F, Froslass, and so on.
Yeah, it really works. Had loads of success with SubSplit Rotom-F, but I didnt use hail. Blizzard may be inaccurate, but Sub provides insurance against misses. I mean, SubSplit Gengar works, and he relies on Focus Blast
Klinklang has actually proved to do really well against hail for me. It can set up easily on the onslaught of blizzards, and its STAB attack tears through pretty much every pokemon on a hail team. It gets extra points for being able to take down the substitute mons on hail teams (Froslass, Subsplit Rotom, Subseed Abomasnow, and Subprotect Glalie). Just pair it with a Dugtrio or Magneton and your coverage problems disappear.
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