Obsessive Compulsive Disorder

[ssbbm]

iDunno, you don't have to answer this if you think that it's too personal, but i was just wondering what obsessions you have? :x

edit: oh nvm didn't read the last sentence

 

[iDunno]

Whenever I was at my friends' house in elementary school I would clean their rooms, I honestly was physically unable to participate in crowds because the varying sounds overwhelmed me, I could only sit in one chair in my living room because I was horrified of dead discarded skin cells, I always had to stretch my throat before I talked, whenever I coughed once I would have to physically initiate a coughing fit because one cough felt incomplete, I had to touch everything with both hands always, Everything had to be symmetrical, etc. But ironically, completely messy rooms were fine for me since they lacked so much semblance of order that I would actually disorganize things in those rooms to keep consistency.

 

[MrIndigo]

Have you seen that show called Hoarding? That's a form of OCD.

I have read a few things about autism, an one of the conventional theories authored by Simon Baron Cohen is that autism is a form of extreme male brain (male brain being a term of art, here, related to certain types of activity that are associated with but not exclusive to males - not just being a male). It made me wonder why, if autism is the extreme male, is there no extreme female?

A pet theory of mine, entirely unsupported, is that hoarding is potentially a manifestation of the extreme female brain (overly emotional attachment to things, for example). Another one could be the people who take in hundreds of stray animals to try and care for them and can't - they're not neglecting the animals because they don't like them, it's because they are psychologically compelled to take on these emotional attachments and obligations to take care of them even when they have no capacity to do so.

 

[iDunno]

My theory is that the hoarding impulse is just a common dormant gene that is activated when faced with sudden abandonment or loss that causes extreme shock. Like when a critical element in your life is "taken away". It puts your mind in a state where you act kind of like a squirrel, impulsively storing "food" to prepare for a crisis.

I am suspicious that it is a malicious gene because I noticed that hoarders tend to be older ages and many were met with similar events of grief. It is possibly a combination of an unidentified chemical that is abundant in aged systems and maybe even elevated estrogen levels caused by loneliness.

 

[Steamroll]

I've seen the shows where the people have their entire house filled to the brim with trash and can't throw away a single piece of trash. There were also ones where the hoarding was so bad that you'd find bodies of old pets under all the rubble.

A lot of the people in those hoarding shows had problems in their childhood or when they were just out of high school. It could be a certain traumatic event around that time that could engage this OCD gene, mind you I'm not very good with genetics or the human mind.

 

[Chou Toshio]

Honestly I don't get the point of this thread or the OP...

So, the psychological disorder exists... yeah... anyone got it? no? yes? cool...

...uh yeah.

BTW, everyone read Xenocide by Orson Scott Card. Great book, though the fact that I'm telling you to read it in a thread about OCD is probably a gigantic spoiler. Whoops.

I also can not STAND unjust infractions, so it bothers me. I can take a damn infraction on some silly internet forum, because I really don't give a fuck. But when something is unjust, no matter where it happens, I get pretty pissed off.

too bad, so sad.

OCD or not, no one gives a fuck?

 

[Spork]

I suppose the defining feature of OCD is that they give a fuck about the most irrelevant shit.

 

[Sy123]

OCD might be true if they are extremely extreme, such as the examples given such as EXTREME hoarding, of rubbish and things like that.
But I hate it when people say
OH NOES I HAVE TO HAVE THE VOLUME OF THE TV A MULTIPLE OF 5, I HAVE OCD!!

You dont have OCD if you have to go on the stairs with your left foot, it is just a habit. Habits develop over your lifetime, and are certainly not a disorder. For example a teacher of mine, twirls his moustache when he is trying to solve a question. It doesnt mean he has OCD.
So please, dont call ridiculous shit like this OCD

 

[Nix_Hex]

I must do everything equally both left and right (ideally starting with left and ending with right). If I have an itch on my left shoulder, I must scratch it, then the right shoulder even though it doesn't itch. If the itch is on my right shoulder, I do it first, then scratch my left. But I must end on right, so I scratch the left, then go left-right (remember, must end on the right and be equal).

Oh fuck I have OCD.

 

[Surgo]

Why did everyone go and shit on this thread, which had a pretty good OP? Did the average age on Smogon drop several years since the last time I checked?

and no im not an expert on the subject... you cant be an expert on something that doesn't exist. call me out all you like but i dont give a shit, this is my opinion.

I don't want to inadvertently strawman you, so let me see if I have this right:

• You don't know anything about the subject.
• You have no idea whether OCD has any physical cause or not
• You have never experienced this
• You claim that it's defeatable through willpower.

You are pants-on-head crazy. You are making the claim that something you have never experienced is not real and can be made non-existent through willpower, despite having absolutely no context or information. Congratulations, you sound like Glenn Beck.

Of course, I don't know anything on the subject either, so I decided to take five minutes and see what kind of actual medical results exist (you know, doing research and overall science, not pointless and idiotic conjecturing). What was the first thing I found? Holy shit, there's actually a serious correlated difference between kids diagnosed with OCD and those without. And that was eleven years ago! Hey, here's something else to chew on. Now none of this mean it's not defeatable through willpower, but it does make your claim of categorical nonexistence seem pretty stupid. There's something there -- maybe it's caused by OCD, maybe it causes OCD, maybe (though unlikely) it's completely nonrelated. But it does not categorically not exist.

If you're going to sit here and claim that something doesn't exist without having any evidence either way, please do everyone a favor and shut the fuck up. My God, given the logic in this thread the next bout of idiocy I'll be hearing is phantom limb pain doesn't exist.

 

[Fishy]

if you can defeat a habit with willpower, then you can suffer from habits because of the brain as well!

how is that not common sense.

 

[Surgo]

I'm not entirely certain I follow, Fishy -- can you put it in a few more words?

edit: Obviously, I only understand walls of text.

 

[Dan Dan]

Yeah my earlier posts were rather poorly thought out, and I probably shouldn't have said OCD doesn't exist. I do think that the term OCD is over/mis-used by people and that's probably what riled me up. I usually do give debate threads a miss because I clearly can't express myself well enough.. should have just pressed back here I guess. SORRY

 

[Surgo]

I can certainly understand the annoyance at OCD overuse -- like so many of the people in this thread self-diagnosing their problems at OCD. Hey when I was younger I had to make sure when one of my elbows touched something, the other side touched it for the exact same length of time! That doesn't make me OCD, it just makes me weird.

 

[Xephyr]

I suppose the defining feature of OCD is that they give a fuck about the most irrelevant shit.

Well, yeah, that's a commonly known fact. You think someone is irrelevant, I think it's a huge deal. I sincerely apologize that human beings are different.

Why did everyone go and shit on this thread, which had a pretty good OP? Did the average age on Smogon drop several years since the last time I checked?

It's not really a big deal. I saw it coming.

 

[Paolo]

I wasn't intending to post in this thread but after reading through comments by people who seem to think OCD is a joke or something that isn't real, I was extremely disturbed. I can almost guarantee anyone who would make such a comment has never suffered from or had anyone close to them suffer from mental illness. OCD and any mental illness for that matter can make any suffers life feel like a living hell. The stigma around it makes it even harder for both the sufferer and their families.

I myself used to suffer from severe OCD and still to this day have mild symptoms. Before anyone assumes that I self diagnosed it, I would like to state that it was infact diagnosed by my family doctor then confirmed by a psychiatrist. So I can vouch for how difficult it can be to deal with, and how some are afraid to confront it due to the stigma related to the disorder.

Like many have said just because someone has Obsessive Compulsive tendencies does not mean they necessarily have OCD. These compulsions only become a disorder when they begin to interfer with your daily life. In other words you can have compulsions without having OCD.

TL;DR OCD and mental illness isn't a joke and just because you have compulsions does not mean you have OCD.

 

[PrimeMinister]

Holy shit I absolutely hate people who say they have OCD with no factual medical support for that statement. Unless your doctor (or someone with a good knowledge of medicine) diagnosed you with OCD, you don't have it. You can't "be kind of OCD", you either have it or you don't. Let the dumbasses learn a new word to describe the weird things you do:
IDIOSYNCRASIES
id·i·o·syn·cra·sy /ˌɪdiəˈsɪŋkrəsi, -ˈsɪn-/ [id-ee-uh-sing-kruh-see]
1. a characteristic, habit, mannerism, or the like, that is peculiar to an individual.
2. the physical constitution peculiar to an individual.
3. a peculiarity of the physical or the mental constitution, especially susceptibility toward drugs, food, etc. Compare allergy(def. 1).

Lol I'm sorry, I needed to comment on this again. It's exactly what I would've posted, should I have beat you to it.

To quote "The Twilight Zone"

--So is that what we're going to do, pick out every idiosyncrasy of every mother and child?