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Official TPCI Pokemon Tournament 2009 | Congrats to all who participated!!
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there's also the option not to touch the screen at all and use the buttons instead, lol..
This is when I say "fuck you Nintendo" (please read before deleting xD).
Spain has been awfully ignored in this world championship. As a webmaster of a Spanish Pokemon website, I've been denouncing this lack of recognition to Spanish players.
Not only was Spain excluded from the countries participating in the tournament, we were given a "placebo": Nintendo Iberica organized a national tournament in Spain. The winner would be able to participate in the "European finals" in Paris. As there were only 90 participants in Paris, this means he only won a free trip to Paris and a 3-day hotel stay (and Platinum + DSi).
We had 4 preliminar rounds in the Spanish tournament (Madrid, Barcelona, Seville, A Coruña). I went to Madrid to cover the event: 286 junior applicants, 203 senior applicants. Just in Madrid. Barcelona was the same. There were more applicants in Madrid and Barcelona alone than in UK, Germany and France altogether (132 + 117 + 90). Two best players of each qualifier would go to the finals in Madrid, which I also covered. The Spanish Champ was a 44-year-old man called Miguel (a nice guy for sure, he was there to play for his kid, who fell ill when the qualifier was done).
They also tweaked the rules: Teams of 3 Pokemon without telling in advance (ie. all competitive teams were fucked, as all competitive players thought it would be for teams of 4 Pokemon as in US and UK). Hack controls were much more intense: they could ban you out of the tournament if you had anything suspicious on your whole save, leading most participants to begin a new game just in case (they would ban you for hacks obtained via GTS). The junior champ of Madrid was banned for using a Dragonite TRU lv50 (US event) and a masterballed Typhlosion (which can be legally obtained).
Btw, the tournament was announced with 8 days advanced notification. So people had only 8 days to prepare their teams.
Flash and Eduard also participated in the Spanish tournament. Flash was eliminated in the Madrid qualifier because the organizers were authentic noobs and didn't even know the rules. They didn't allow him to use Explosion, when this move is not banned (you lose if used to finish the battle). Eduard made it to the Spanish finals, but had no luck on his first battle.
They both made it to the French semifinals. But they could not do this on the Spanish tournament, but on the French (so-called "European"). As for the junior Champ, Lucas, he won the French Tournament. So, basically, 3 Spanish players made it to the semi-finals, one of them winning the junior tournament.
This also went against French players, who would receive more competitive players from the rest of Europe, and have their "representation" in the worlds reduced.
Spanish players have demonstrated they attended this tournament with much more enthusiasm than other Europeans. We didn't have a chance to directly participate on the Worlds, even though there were more than 500 applicants for each category.
So let me say "thank you The Pokémon Company" for having excluded Spain of the world championship. Because its the fault of TPC, not of Nintendo Ibérica, that we were excluded. I wish Lucas the best luck on the worlds. He deserves it, having won 3 tournaments to go there (qualifier, Spain, France).
Spain has been awfully ignored in this world championship. As a webmaster of a Spanish Pokemon website, I've been denouncing this lack of recognition to Spanish players.
Not only was Spain excluded from the countries participating in the tournament, we were given a "placebo": Nintendo Iberica organized a national tournament in Spain. The winner would be able to participate in the "European finals" in Paris. As there were only 90 participants in Paris, this means he only won a free trip to Paris and a 3-day hotel stay (and Platinum + DSi).
We had 4 preliminar rounds in the Spanish tournament (Madrid, Barcelona, Seville, A Coruña). I went to Madrid to cover the event: 286 junior applicants, 203 senior applicants. Just in Madrid. Barcelona was the same. There were more applicants in Madrid and Barcelona alone than in UK, Germany and France altogether (132 + 117 + 90). Two best players of each qualifier would go to the finals in Madrid, which I also covered. The Spanish Champ was a 44-year-old man called Miguel (a nice guy for sure, he was there to play for his kid, who fell ill when the qualifier was done).
They also tweaked the rules: Teams of 3 Pokemon without telling in advance (ie. all competitive teams were fucked, as all competitive players thought it would be for teams of 4 Pokemon as in US and UK). Hack controls were much more intense: they could ban you out of the tournament if you had anything suspicious on your whole save, leading most participants to begin a new game just in case (they would ban you for hacks obtained via GTS). The junior champ of Madrid was banned for using a Dragonite TRU lv50 (US event) and a masterballed Typhlosion (which can be legally obtained).
Btw, the tournament was announced with 8 days advanced notification. So people had only 8 days to prepare their teams.
Flash and Eduard also participated in the Spanish tournament. Flash was eliminated in the Madrid qualifier because the organizers were authentic noobs and didn't even know the rules. They didn't allow him to use Explosion, when this move is not banned (you lose if used to finish the battle). Eduard made it to the Spanish finals, but had no luck on his first battle.
They both made it to the French semifinals. But they could not do this on the Spanish tournament, but on the French (so-called "European"). As for the junior Champ, Lucas, he won the French Tournament. So, basically, 3 Spanish players made it to the semi-finals, one of them winning the junior tournament.
This also went against French players, who would receive more competitive players from the rest of Europe, and have their "representation" in the worlds reduced.
Spanish players have demonstrated they attended this tournament with much more enthusiasm than other Europeans. We didn't have a chance to directly participate on the Worlds, even though there were more than 500 applicants for each category.
So let me say "thank you The Pokémon Company" for having excluded Spain of the world championship. Because its the fault of TPC, not of Nintendo Ibérica, that we were excluded. I wish Lucas the best luck on the worlds. He deserves it, having won 3 tournaments to go there (qualifier, Spain, France).
yeah i totally agree with you..I was really surprised that so many spanish people entered in Paris and a lot of them were really good..you can tell by hands that French players arent that competetive and "good" (hey no offense i just look at top 8 and top 4 perticipants and there were only 1-2 french in the top 8 and 1 in the top 4) so i really agree with you that next time spain should also get an VGC World Qualifier.
maybe next year..just beware of the germans hahaha ;D
That's unbelievably lame...
I always knew pokémon didn't really have much official in Spain (lack of Spanish pokémon names etc) but that takes the biscuit. Would've been easier to just go to Paris for the day, and the Spanish winners should DEFINITELY have been given a trip to San Diego. That the Spanish champions are no more likely to get to San Diego than any random Parisian who stumbles out of bed for the morning is disgusting. Especially when there were 2 Spanish rounds.
If a parallel of this had happened in America, with say St Louis winners only being guaranteed a spot in a Japanese second-round regional, the whole place would be going nuts.
Edit: Oh yeah the ExplosionDestiny Bond rule is one used in Battle Tower already (though only for players, not NPCs). If you use explosion and it KOs all your own pokémon, you lose regardless of if all the opponent's pokémon were KOed too. Makes sense really imo: not only does the exploding pokémon die first, but it's a pretty cheap way to finish a battle. Explosion should be used as a high-risk move, not to give a guaranteed win when you've weakened your opponent sufficiently.
I always knew pokémon didn't really have much official in Spain (lack of Spanish pokémon names etc) but that takes the biscuit. Would've been easier to just go to Paris for the day, and the Spanish winners should DEFINITELY have been given a trip to San Diego. That the Spanish champions are no more likely to get to San Diego than any random Parisian who stumbles out of bed for the morning is disgusting. Especially when there were 2 Spanish rounds.
If a parallel of this had happened in America, with say St Louis winners only being guaranteed a spot in a Japanese second-round regional, the whole place would be going nuts.
Edit: Oh yeah the ExplosionDestiny Bond rule is one used in Battle Tower already (though only for players, not NPCs). If you use explosion and it KOs all your own pokémon, you lose regardless of if all the opponent's pokémon were KOed too. Makes sense really imo: not only does the exploding pokémon die first, but it's a pretty cheap way to finish a battle. Explosion should be used as a high-risk move, not to give a guaranteed win when you've weakened your opponent sufficiently.
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Uh, no? The only starters you get come in Pokeballs, and you can only get more of those through breeding, which - surprise - also come in Pokeballs. And no legitimate event I've read about has given any out.
EDIT: Oh, right. Colosseum has those catchable starters.
In Colosseum, one of the trainers has a shadow quilava, so you can catch it in any ball you want.
Yeah, that's a shame that Spanish players didn't get a trip to San Diego, but for Paris instead... -_-
I lost in Top 8 against a Spanish player (I believe it's flash0mc).
He started with Lv 1 Smeargle and Bronzong, I started with Mismagius and Metagross.
At the first turn, I was thinking about Taunt his Bronzong, and launch Earthquake with Metagross, but I thought his Smeargle was going to use Follow Me to ensure Trick Room, so I chose to use Icy Wind and Bullet Punch, so I would at least kill Smeargle even if he used Fake Out.
That was dumb, I should have used Earthquake even if Smeargle used Fake Out, because I could have kill it at the next turn with Bullet Punch anyway.
He switched out his Smeargle and sent out Metagross, so I basically wasted a turn.
Then I wanted to use Magnet Rise with my Metagross, thinking I could try the speed tie and avoid Earthquake.
His Meta launched EQ first... and did a decisive Critical Hit.
Then I somewhat went on tilt and did a lot of mistakes while trying to play around Protect to pass the remaining turns of Trick Room.
Well, it's obvious my mistake at the first turn costed me the match...
I lost in Top 8 against a Spanish player (I believe it's flash0mc).
He started with Lv 1 Smeargle and Bronzong, I started with Mismagius and Metagross.
At the first turn, I was thinking about Taunt his Bronzong, and launch Earthquake with Metagross, but I thought his Smeargle was going to use Follow Me to ensure Trick Room, so I chose to use Icy Wind and Bullet Punch, so I would at least kill Smeargle even if he used Fake Out.
That was dumb, I should have used Earthquake even if Smeargle used Fake Out, because I could have kill it at the next turn with Bullet Punch anyway.
He switched out his Smeargle and sent out Metagross, so I basically wasted a turn.
Then I wanted to use Magnet Rise with my Metagross, thinking I could try the speed tie and avoid Earthquake.
His Meta launched EQ first... and did a decisive Critical Hit.
Then I somewhat went on tilt and did a lot of mistakes while trying to play around Protect to pass the remaining turns of Trick Room.
Well, it's obvious my mistake at the first turn costed me the match...
Good luck to Lucas, the only spanish guy who´ll be in San Diego.
There are 30 participating in the Senior final. Maybe there are 2 wild-cards. If there are these, one of them should go for Miguel Angel (the Spanish Champion, 44 years old man), or for flash :(
In Madrid there were more than 200 people. Two friends, Kasty and K-12 were eliminated by the damn lottery, and both of them have a very good level, they could have won the Spanish qualifiers and the Paris tournament.
I have sent an e-mail to Nintendo complaining. I hope next year Europe gets more tournaments, in the 3 countries which had these tournaments + Spain, Italy, the Netherlands, and any other country.
There are 30 participating in the Senior final. Maybe there are 2 wild-cards. If there are these, one of them should go for Miguel Angel (the Spanish Champion, 44 years old man), or for flash :(
In Madrid there were more than 200 people. Two friends, Kasty and K-12 were eliminated by the damn lottery, and both of them have a very good level, they could have won the Spanish qualifiers and the Paris tournament.
I have sent an e-mail to Nintendo complaining. I hope next year Europe gets more tournaments, in the 3 countries which had these tournaments + Spain, Italy, the Netherlands, and any other country.
Remember that Nintendo is not sponsoring these tournaments. They're run by The Pokemon Company International.
Then the e-mail was sent to them, since I sent them since the webpage of the tournament lol
Ey micuat, do you have any info about the 16 Japan finalists? Has South Korea being neglected by Nintendo too? D:
By the way, I leave here the video of the Japan Finals for 1st post, I found it in page 70-something lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqvUn-1evDc
Ey micuat, do you have any info about the 16 Japan finalists? Has South Korea being neglected by Nintendo too? D:
By the way, I leave here the video of the Japan Finals for 1st post, I found it in page 70-something lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqvUn-1evDc
This guy weren't me xD He was the other spanish guy who reached the semifinals
Oops, sorry xD
About the French guy who have been beaten in final, I didn't watch the battle, but I heard that it was a piece of cake for Honchkrow/Massi.
Yes, he was n00b, but i missclicked once and i failed a decisive hydropump on a marowak... If not i'd have won 3-0
what about that fire blast miss?
With the U.S. Nationals coming up this weekend, I was hoping to get some of my plans squared away. Ideally, I'd spend both days in St. Louis to hang out with you guys, regardless of whether or not I get into the tournament. If any of you are willing to let me stay in the hotel room that you won, let me know. If need be, I could chip in to reimburse you for the inconvenience of giving me a place to crash.
For those who are interested in pooling from the Midwest/Great Lakes region, I'll be driving to St. Louis from West Lafayette, IN (1 hour NW of Indianapolis, 4.5 hours NE of St. Louis). If that is a stop along anyone's trip let me know and we can pool over from my place. If there is anyone who lives along that path and would need a ride to the tournament, feel free to hit me up as well.
I'm looking forward to seeing all of you guys (again for some of you)!
For those who are interested in pooling from the Midwest/Great Lakes region, I'll be driving to St. Louis from West Lafayette, IN (1 hour NW of Indianapolis, 4.5 hours NE of St. Louis). If that is a stop along anyone's trip let me know and we can pool over from my place. If there is anyone who lives along that path and would need a ride to the tournament, feel free to hit me up as well.
I'm looking forward to seeing all of you guys (again for some of you)!
Nintendo answered me (I told them to make moure tournaments in more European countries for next year, suggesting the 3 cities of this year + madrid, rome and amsterdam).
With only three European Qualifier events this year, we selected locations that were major transportation hubs, with easy access to a majority of players. We attempted to place the events in these areas of Europe to achieve maximum coverage. There are definitely other cities that would have worked just as well, and they may be selected for events in future years as the VGC series grows.
As the VGC event series grows in future years, we will likely further refine the manner in which these events are held, as well as which cities host events. However, for the 2009 series, the event locations are set, and we will not be adding additional locations.
Michael Liesik
The Pokemon Company International
333 108th Ave NE Suite 1900
Bellevue, WA 98004
www.go-pokemon.com/op
With only three European Qualifier events this year, we selected locations that were major transportation hubs, with easy access to a majority of players. We attempted to place the events in these areas of Europe to achieve maximum coverage. There are definitely other cities that would have worked just as well, and they may be selected for events in future years as the VGC series grows.
As the VGC event series grows in future years, we will likely further refine the manner in which these events are held, as well as which cities host events. However, for the 2009 series, the event locations are set, and we will not be adding additional locations.
Michael Liesik
The Pokemon Company International
333 108th Ave NE Suite 1900
Bellevue, WA 98004
www.go-pokemon.com/op
Interesting.
I hope they do an event up north next year, or even some proper regionals in the UK and other European countries. London is a real pain to get to if you don't live there, and the safety net of regionals is a nice thing to have- especially in the UK, where you can reasonably travel a range of about 100 miles for the day in a car without having to book a hotel. If say they did regionals in Newcastle, Manchester, Bristol, Birmingham, Glasgow and London that'd be a nice and even spread and basically every Pokémon player in the UK would be able to attend. Wishful thinking though I guess.
Oh yeah and something I noticed: does every event use the same DSs? I noticed that the London DSs were Japanese (the DS usernames were "Pokémon" in Japanese if anyone's interested), so they were probably the ones used in at least some Japanese tournaments. Did the US events use Japanese DSs too?
I hope they do an event up north next year, or even some proper regionals in the UK and other European countries. London is a real pain to get to if you don't live there, and the safety net of regionals is a nice thing to have- especially in the UK, where you can reasonably travel a range of about 100 miles for the day in a car without having to book a hotel. If say they did regionals in Newcastle, Manchester, Bristol, Birmingham, Glasgow and London that'd be a nice and even spread and basically every Pokémon player in the UK would be able to attend. Wishful thinking though I guess.
Oh yeah and something I noticed: does every event use the same DSs? I noticed that the London DSs were Japanese (the DS usernames were "Pokémon" in Japanese if anyone's interested), so they were probably the ones used in at least some Japanese tournaments. Did the US events use Japanese DSs too?
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