Sticky Orange Islands SQSA Thread

Omastar68 said:
I know common sense KINDA dictates ghost mons are undead, but do zombies really make sense for a sorta kid genre? I'm pretty sure you can find stuff to support either side, but if they are NOT undead, what makes them ghosts? It also begs questions like what coulda possibly killed so many, and why are they their own things not "undead" versions of reg stuff
...idk I'm bored
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The lore is inconsistent sometimes but I think you just need to believe in the fact that there are just supernatural spirits out there.

See also: Yokai and the other franchise about them.
 
Omastar68 said:
I know common sense KINDA dictates ghost mons are undead, but do zombies really make sense for a sorta kid genre? I'm pretty sure you can find stuff to support either side, but if they are NOT undead, what makes them ghosts? It also begs questions like what coulda possibly killed so many, and why are they their own things not "undead" versions of reg stuff
...idk I'm bored
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There is something to note about the Type's name in Japanese. In Japanese name is "Ghost". No, not the Japanese word for "ghost", the English word. The most common Japanese word for ghost is "Yūrei", though like in English there are others terms. So, why use the English word instead of the Japanese? Now right away I'm going to admit this is something I had heard and can't find a source to back it up, but it at least sounds believable and does relate to what we're talking about. In Japanese culture Yūrei's are treated a bit more seriously; it's not taboo to depict them in a lighter or jokier tone, but usually when they show up in a media it's given a serious tone as these being powerful beings that can cause great harm and are to be feared. Calling the Ghost-type "Yurei" in Japanese would have given them that tinge of serious tone, and GameFreak likely didn't want to be tied down by that for both creativity reasons and because they're making a game for kids and don't want to scare them too much. So instead they used the English "Ghost", which I imagine in Japan would have been treated as a more generic term for spirits, especially international spirits; a Japanese person hears "Yurei" and think of a vengeful spirit, they hear "Ghost" and think of the bedsheet ghosts depicted in western cartoons. Now while originally they likely did this just to ignore the serious tone of Yurei, this has also helped them expand upon the Ghost-type in future gens; since its seen as a generic term anything spirit-like/undead/supernatural falls into it and they can base a Pokemon on it. This has resulted in it becoming a "hodgepodge" in terms of overall Type theming (Dragon and Fairy has a similar issue), especially since they've based Pokemon on ghosts from around the world & different cultures have differnnt ideas about what is a ghost. But in the end it all does stem from the core idea of spirits & the undead, spirituality & the afterlife, and the spooky side of the supernatural.
 
And side stepping all of this, there's a difference between "this is a ghostly being that has so & so associated with it" and "this is a bonafide Ghost-ass ghost". Even back in Gen 1, where the distinction was significantly more murky, you still had things like Gastly being a ghost because its a spooky head made of gas that can phase through wall alongside the Actual Ghost Of Marowak

Anime plays with that too. Back in Best Wishes Cilan was afraid of ghosts and relieved when ghostly behavior was actually "just" cofagrigus.

Of course some times of course the ghost pokemon IS a ghost-ghost but only when convenient. Spiritomb in L:A being literally made of 108 actual spirits. Also Spiritomb in L:A yeah there's just swarms of them meandering around.
 
R_N said:
Of course some times of course the ghost pokemon IS a ghost-ghost but only when convenient. Spiritomb in L:A being literally made of 108 actual spirits. Also Spiritomb in L:A yeah there's just swarms of them meandering around.
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Anyone remember in the anime how Acerola had a ghost of a deceased Mimikyu.
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Team Rocket: :psynervous:. Alola Crew: :blobastonished:. Rotom Dex: :row:.
 
Karxrida said:
In XD: Gale of Darkness, how do Poké Spots handle the selecting of their Pokémon? I want to know if it's possible to use save states to manipulate what you encounter once the Spot Monitor goes off.
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I believe that once the monitor goes off the Pokemon is set, but not any other factors (so save states should be able to be used to try for perfect stats/shinies once you have the specific Pokemon you desire)
 
doipy hooves said:
Trading Eggs is locked behind having the National Dex specifically, and the check would prevent all Eggs in general even those containing Kanto mons.
https://github.com/pret/pokefirered/blob/7e3f822652ecce0c99b626d74f455c3b93660377/src/trade.c#L2759



This is kind of relevant now that FRLG 2026 has patched it, and it turns out this was related to fixing an undocumented RS bug all along in terms of why it was introduced.

https://bsky.app/profile/mrcheeze.github.io%2Fpost%2F3mg3jr6p4xk2y

C: 
        if (gBattleTypeFlags & BATTLE_TYPE_ROAMER)
        {
            UpdateRoamerHPStatus(&gEnemyParty[0]);
#if defined(BUGFIX) || REVISION >= 0xA
            if ((gBattleOutcome == B_OUTCOME_WON) || gBattleOutcome == B_OUTCOME_CAUGHT || gBattleOutcome == B_OUTCOME_DREW)
#else
            if ((gBattleOutcome & B_OUTCOME_WON) || gBattleOutcome == B_OUTCOME_CAUGHT) // Bug: When Roar is used by roamer, gBattleOutcome is B_OUTCOME_PLAYER_TELEPORTED (5).
#endif                                                                                  // & with B_OUTCOME_WON (1) will return TRUE and deactivates the roamer.

https://bsky.app/profile/mrcheeze.github.io%2Fpost%2F3mfyxeisisc2q
In RS they didn't handle the draw outcome to despawn roamers, so if you explode on Latias/Latios and kill them while whiting out, they'll still be roaming at 0HP.

In GBA FRLG they check for gBattleOutcome & B_OUTCOME_WON (bitwise AND on 1) instead of == to handle both the WON (1) and DREW (3) cases, but this also leads to returning true on teleport/roars (5) which infamously despawns them.

So in Switch FRLG they just check equality for each win/catch/draw battle outcome individually to despawn the roamer now.
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Isn’t teleport considered running away?
 
So, i'm trying to register pokemon in stadium 1 hall of fame, wouldn't work on the old one, so i figured i tried a fresh rom, and a fresh transfer pak, but still nothing.

I remember to have registered pokemon in the hall of fame before(years ago), but now i get nothing, i don't remember it had to be a specific cup, or does it have to be? Neither rentals or the mons from my game file registers.
 
morty123 said:
So, i'm trying to register pokemon in stadium 1 hall of fame, wouldn't work on the old one, so i figured i tried a fresh rom, and a fresh transfer pak, but still nothing.

I remember to have registered pokemon in the hall of fame before(years ago), but now i get nothing, i don't remember it had to be a specific cup, or does it have to be? Neither rentals or the mons from my game file registers.
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Fresh rom and transfer pak? Are you playing on emulator? Or are you playing on original hardware with a rom cart?
 
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