I can see nothing more than a niche in M-Beedrill :(
Can we discuss about M-Audino usability?
Can we discuss about M-Audino usability?
Really don't think it will be that used. Sure it can take a hit, but it can't hit back for nothingI can see nothing more than a niche in M-Beedrill :(
Can we discuss about M-Audino usability?
I think Mega Swampert OHKOes in rain.Really don't think it will be that used. Sure it can take a hit, but it can't hit back for nothing
Oh dang o_o Well Mega swampert does have a huge attack statI think Mega Swampert OHKOes in rain.
The problems with Belly Zard X are the fact it can't hold a Sitrus Berry, it's SR weak (4x as normal Zard, meaning when you come in on Rocks, you can't use Belly Drum unless you're running an odd HP number, but even then, you're at 1 HP :/ ) and it's susceptible to priority moves with all that health being whittled down, meaning this set will require A LOT of support and require you to run Roost to get your health back.Since Slowbro and Mega Altaria will both wall the usual Zard X sets. I believe Belly Drum Zard X will rise in usage.
+6 252+ Atk Tough Claws Mega Charizard X Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mega Altaria: 352-414 (109 - 128.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+6 252+ Atk Tough Claws Mega Charizard X Dragon Claw vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mega Slowbro: 357-420 (90.6 - 106.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
Huh? Even on a spdef set it wouldn't be a guaranteed 2hko:I think Mega Swampert OHKOes in rain.
Well yeah, Roost will be mandatory since Dragon/Fire is all it needs. Healing Wish support/Tailwind is also nice.The problems with Belly Zard X are the fact it can't hold a Sitrus Berry, it's SR weak (4x as normal Zard) and it's susceptible to priority moves with all that health being whittled down, meaning this set will require A LOT of support and require you to run Roost to get your health back.
Sorry, was thinking of another calc. I just remember Audino not being a counter; on account of being 2HKOed after Stealth Rock.Huh? Even on a spdef set it wouldn't be a guaranteed 2hko:
252+ Atk Swampert Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Audino in Rain: 195-231 (47.5 - 56.3%) -- 82.8% chance to 2HKO
Mega-Audino has more physical bulk than hippowdon and slowbro guys, dont underestimate it.
Yea, roost will be a huge thing nowWell yeah, Roost will be mandatory since Dragon/Fire is all it needs. Healing Wish support/Tailwind is also nice.
eeh idk, You really need something for ferro. As being a good counter to swampert.Yawn might be a worthwhile consideration for Swampert instead of Superpower.
Mag might start running HP Ice for Sceptile, but yeah, I agree with the notion that Mag is in a bit of a pickle in the upcoming meta shift.skarmory is going to love this meta... as is hippowdon, to a lesser extent. both wall metagross (provided it's lackin grass knot for hippo), skarmory can counter swamp (literally, counter ohkos), hippo cancels rain, which can be huge w/ rain offense getting hyped up as much as it is...shed shell skarm + sceptile sounds devious, and with other mons like swamp stopping mag cold i think mag + pinsir usage is going to die down significantly
I'm going to be using a Rain Dance set with Waterfall, Ice Punch and EQ, effectively functioning as a cleaner in the late game that cannot be easily revenge killed.Yawn might be a worthwhile consideration for Swampert instead of Superpower. Yes, you can severely damage Ferrothorn, but you really can't do anything to Rotom-W, Slowbro, or Venusaur. With Yawn, you're at least able to force them to switch out and get a free hit on whatever they send in or switch out if you predict they'll stay in. It might be a good idea to run this with Spikes support, possibly a Ferrothorn of your own. It (Yawn) doesn't seem like the best use of rain, but you're probably banking on rain sticking around for most of the match if you're using a hole puncher like Swampert (or you're using it as a cleaner after the aforementioned threats are eliminated).
What pokemon do you guys think will be good partners for Mega Swampert?
Personal anecdote is that a third coverage move is all but necessary. EQ is very popular because it serves as an out to Heatran as well as being effing EQ, but there are other good options. Thanks to Tough Claws, some steel coverage for the inevitable fairy switch-ins die by Iron Tail (for damage lovers) and Steel Wing (accuracy). Iron tail ends up with something like 130 BP thanks to Tough Claws and Steel Wing gets up to a respectable 91, very close to or exceeding the EQ coverage. If mega Alteria and/or other big fairy types really take over the meta, these will be very strong options. My personal zard X runds Brick Break because one, I needed fighting coverage, and two, it works wonders. 97.5 BP after Tough Claws and still super against Heatran while also instantly exploding TTar, and giving great breaks to walls like Chansey, Snorlax, and silly people running Aggron.Well yeah, Roost will be mandatory since Dragon/Fire is all it needs. Healing Wish support/Tailwind is also nice.
Did you forget to factor in Adaptability?Investing in beedrills defence is interesting, but more than likely a bad idea. With defensive EVs you're only avoiding potential OHKO's against banded azumarill and life orb crawdaunt. You're still losing basically all of your health and if rocks are around which is probably likely then you just die to the aqua jet or die when coming in again. It's really not worth it, especially 128 defensive EVS because that's just way too much. I would say just focus on beedrills greatest assests, attack and speed, and just forget about that pitiful defence. You also need to consider the fact that those aqua jets are barely OHKO's anyway. 31.3% for azumarill and 18.8% for crawdaunt.
Apologies, I misread your post as "you're missing potential ohkos" :/I wasn't taking about beedrill hitting back. I was taking about how high the chances are of those two aqua jets OHKO'ing beedrill with no defensive investment. Azumarill has a 31% chance and crawdaunt has even less with 18%.
That's what I conceded in my post. It's probably more important to have Superpower to 2HKO Ferro with EQ + Superpower, but Yawn could be valuable for maintaining momentum on rain teams that have issues with Slowbro and Rotom-W (yes, rain teams should be prepared for these anyway, but they should also have methods of disposing of Ferrothorn).eeh idk, You really need something for ferro. As being a good counter to swampert.
Remember it get's tough Claws, and it has access to all Elemental Punches.It is only me or M-Metagross is really limited by choices? I mean, he has agility and no other major buffs and still has trouble against current OU staples like Greninja, ZardXY, Chomp etc? I mean cmom GF :(