Pokémon Let's Go! - Pikachu and Eevee

Quite the interesting level jump from Erika. Let me make an educated guess and say you will not be able to choose the gym order like it used to be for Kanto.
The "choose the gym order" was never intended for actual Kanto games to begin with.... It was something players eventually came up with but you were clearly piloted in a specific gym order (Brock > Misty > Surge > Erika > Koga > Sabrina > Blaine > Giovanni) due to the level differences and the way they do give obedience levels.

If anything they have corrected a design error.
 
After the last trailers, I will file my first actual complaint about the PLGO game itself rather than the advertising campaign.

Look GameFreaks:
I perfectly understands PLGO is a game aimed for kids.
I am perfectly fine with it, I even praised the plan (less the price, but still).
I do think it could have been a great game.

But REALLY you're overdoing it with this new moves names. Z move names were excessive but cool and sounding great. This time they're not funny, they're cringeworthy. Kids might be kids but PIKAPOW (and basically every signature moves of the 2 starters) is really over the top. :|
 
"Oh boy! Let's have our Eevee weevee use Splishy Splash and Bouncy Bubble and Buzzy Buzz and Sizzly Slide and it'll be such fun!!!"

...yeah, no. We already knew how much they're pushing these games towards the little kids (who, ironically, would be drawn towards the badass monsters and dragons possibly more than the cutesy stuff), but I'm gonna be passing on them.

HOWEVER, this sets an interesting precedent, which is that if Eevee keeps these "attacks" in its movepool in gen 8+, then the eeveelutions will have actual coverage beyond Hidden Power and Shadow Ball, which could be pretty interesting.
 
After the last trailers, I will file my first actual complaint about the PLGO game itself rather than the advertising campaign.

Look GameFreaks:
I perfectly understands PLGO is a game aimed for kids.
I am perfectly fine with it, I even praised the plan (less the price, but still).
I do think it could have been a great game.

But REALLY you're overdoing it with this new moves names. Z move names were excessive but cool and sounding great. This time they're not funny, they're cringeworthy. Kids might be kids but PIKAPOW (and basically every signature moves of the 2 starters) is really over the top. :|
The Z-Moves sounded a bit cheesy. I swear there something that Owain from Fire Emblem would come up with. My biggest pet peeve though, is the animations. There fun at first, but they start to get really tedious and overtop overtime. Especially for moves like Clangorous Soulblaze and Devastating Drake.
"Oh boy! Let's have our Eevee weevee use Splishy Splash and Bouncy Bubble and Buzzy Buzz and Sizzly Slide and it'll be such fun!!!"

...yeah, no. We already knew how much they're pushing these games towards the little kids (who, ironically, would be drawn towards the badass monsters and dragons possibly more than the cutesy stuff), but I'm gonna be passing on them.

HOWEVER, this sets an interesting precedent, which is that if Eevee keeps these "attacks" in its movepool in gen 8+, then the eeveelutions will have actual coverage beyond Hidden Power and Shadow Ball, which could be pretty interesting.
You forgot signal beam. But seriously, I do hope they buff the eeveelutions in some way. You’d think with all this Gen 1 pandering they would have buffed the eveelutions by now, but no.

I have to admit, that special edition Switch looks cute. Too bad I don’t want these games. Do you get to choose the Pre installed version or is it random?
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Never mind, you can choose. I must admit, the music has grown on me. It sounds so relaxing. I just dislike the reasoning behind the wind music in the game. And the fact that wind music doesn’t fit in a Pokémon game.

The graphics are also what’s bothering me. To be perfectly honest, the games look like X and Y imported for the Switch. They could have used at least SM models. And the reasoning is even more infuriating. Again, that’s why people rate games. So we can decide what’s good for them and what’s not. It would have been excusable if it was for 3DS... But it isn’t.
 
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So let me catch-up:

Project Eevee Twitter Image:
Hmm, this picture looks like its taken via with a Poke Finder/Alolan Photo Club-like feature. Take a picture of Pikachu/Eevee in certain locations and posing them.

Gameplay Video 8/29:
1:52:
Hmm, you know something I just noticed are the very defined shadows. Do you think they'll have the position of the shadows move depending on the time of day? I don't think any other game has done that before.
7:52: I can't read what it says, but it looks like sometimes when catching a Pokemon you'll also get an item.
10:21: JEEZ, those item balls are huge! Eevee could literally fit into it without needing to be turned to energy.
12:15: Huh, they still have Officer Jenny giving you a Squirtle? But you can find them in the wild (and expected to catch them en masse), why keep those events? Thinking about it that's a problem copying the Pokemon GO formula, the gift Pokemon don't feel that important.
18:12: Those glasses and bow looks very close to accessories for Cosplay Pikachu's (the glasses of Ph. D and the bow of Pop Star). Would be a neat to include the Cosplay Pikachu costumes, or clothing identical to it.

No Cloud Save:
I'm not surprised, just disappointed. Though Pokemon not having multiple save slots has always been a major criticism (you'd still need two separate copies if you want to trade and battle). Though as for backing up, don't recent Pokemon games keep a few old saves back-up just in case something happens to the most recent save? Of course this doesn't replace Cloud Saving's feature of moving the saved data elsewhere, though I'd say if that's GF's concern they should allow saving to the Pokemon Bank if they want to keep a tighter control on how players move around their saves.

English Trailer 9/10:
(Doing the English first since I can understand it better and the Japenese shows more. Also I'm going to include info from the main site)
Secret Techniques: So indeed they're replacing HMs, this time with "Secret Techniques" Pikachu/Eevee can do. "Sea Skim" is Surf via a surfboard (curious if that means the surf mini-game is back in), "Chop Down" is Cut via... pure will power I guess, and "Sky Dash" is Fly by summoning what I can best describe as a balloon scooter. So that just leaves Strength and Flash, which will probably be done via the way they did Cut (though for Strength would be cute if the animation if both the trainer and Pikachu/Eevee pushing the rock together. So I guess starting with Gen VII the Field Moves are no more, or at least as we know them. Wonder what they'll do for the Sinnoh Remakes...
0:18: Game Corner is back but as an arcade instead of a casino (which kinds of makes Team Rocket running a racket with it as a front kind of silly). So, will they have mini-games we can play? I mean, Kingdom Hearts 3 is adding Game & Watch-like mini-games so why not Pokemon?
0:21: What a surprise, Erika looks the same except her kimono and headband is more detailed. :P
0:24: Erika's ace returns to being Vileplume (in Yellow it was made a Gloom to match the anime). And while it did get a level increase I have a feeling it's probably going to need it with how easy its to level-up your Pokemon.
Partner Powers: And so the leaker was right, though a bit late on the trailer prediction (though to be fair, probably didn't predict there would be an earthquake in Japan last week). An icon will appear occasionally with Pikachu/Eevee holding a Joycon. Flicking it will have it do something special. If they're not the active Pokemon out they'll just provide a power boost. But if they are they'll perform a special move with a stupid name. As I go through each I feel compelled to give them a better name:
  • The "standard" special move looks to be "Pika Papow" (better name: "Pikavolt Thunderbolt") for Pikachu and "Veevee Volley" (eh, guess that's alright) for Eevee. The power of the move increases depending on your bond, so it's pretty much Return though probably more powerful (and Electric-type for Pikachu).
  • Pikachu gets "Splishy Splash" (better name: "Sparks Surfer") which is pretty much Surf (complete with surfboard) but afflicts Paralysis. I'm guessing there's also going to be one for Flying if that steelbook artwork is anything to go by.
  • Eevee gets "Bouncy Bubble" (better name: Vapor Absorb) a 50% draining Water-type move, "Buzzy Buzz" (Jolt Bolt) a 100% Paralyzing Electric-type move, and "Sizzly Slide" (better name "Flare Raid") a 100% Burning Fire-type move. Like with Pikachu, the steelbook shows it using other elemental moves so it'll probably get one for each Eevelution type: Dark, Psychic, Leaf, Ice, & Fairy. Question is, what will their secondary effect be (I think we can guess what Category they'd be though).
Seriously, what is up with these names? Okay, I get it, you're making these games for babies, but did you really need to have a baby name the special moves? Like I'm seeing complaints about Z-Move names and I don't mind the Z-Move names as they at least put effort into them. But these? It's baby talk. Like, are they trying to make these game unappealing to any adult who would have been interested?
But we can't ignore that the leaker was right. Question is, are they all real or did they just somehow learned about this special move reveal and made up the rest to see if anyone will fall for it. Only time will tell.

Japanese Trailer 9/10:
0:22:
Ooh, the in-game map! So, let's see... odd, they didn't mark the entrance to Diglett's Cave on Route 11 (near Vermillion City). Unless they didn't mark any entrance of Diglett's Cave on the map which in that case what's the additional notable location off to the side of Route 2? Also no notable location for Cerulean Cave (and surprised they didn't mark down the location of the GO Park in Fuchsia City).
2:02: Okay, so Celadon Gym breaks the mold by having no audience. It's also been completely redesigned to be a hedge maze which requires "Chop Down" to get through, so a combination of its Gen I and HGSS designs. It actually looks quite big!

Let's Go Themed Switch: Called it. Does't look too bad. If I decide to get the game (though it's not looking likely) I may do it via this Switch bundle.

Preorder Plush Key Chain: Ahh, these also look cute. :)

Wonder if they will correct the error with the badge names too? It makes much more sense for the Poison leader to give out the Marsh badge, and the Psychic leader to give out the Soul badge, than the opposite.
While that would be nice, sadly it's too late by now. It should have been fixed via early merchandise, the anime, and then officially in Gen II but they didn't and so it has become ingrained Sabrina gives the Marsh Badge and Koga gives the Soul Badge. At best they can make it a joke now, like an NPC mentions the oddity and its because the Pokemon League messed up the naming and wouldn't be worth the cost to fix it (and obviously be an English exclusive joke so would have to replace what an NPC originally says, though that wouldn't be too hard).

HOWEVER, this sets an interesting precedent, which is that if Eevee keeps these "attacks" in its movepool in gen 8+, then the eeveelutions will have actual coverage beyond Hidden Power and Shadow Ball, which could be pretty interesting.
As Tapu Koko Loko said, these exclusive moves seem very likely to be for just for these games. If Eevee wants elemental moves in the core series it has to hope GF maybe throws it a bone and maybe allows it to learn certain ones via Move Tutor or maybe being bred from an Eeveelution.

My biggest pet peeve though, is the animations. There fun at first, but they start to get really tedious and overtop overtime. Especially for moves like Clangorous Soulblaze and Devastating Drake.
Does turning off battle animations turn off the Z-Move animations (though even if they did it should be a separate option, or have an option to do a quicker animation)?
 
Eevee gets "Bouncy Bubble" (better name: Vapor Absorb) a 50% draining Water-type move, "Buzzy Buzz" (Jolt Bolt) a 100% Paralyzing Electric-type move, and "Sizzly Slide" (better name "Flare Raid") a 100% Burning Fire-type move. Like with Pikachu, the steelbook shows it using other elemental moves so it'll probably get one for each Eevelution type: Dark, Psychic, Leaf, Ice, & Fairy. Question is, what will their secondary effect be (I think we can guess what Category they'd be though).
Considering it's a gen 1 game, I do not expect this to be the case, and Eevee most likely gets the 3 that match the gen 1 evos (as well as giving a soft-reason to not be disgusted at not being able to evolve it).
As Tapu Koko Loko said, these exclusive moves seem very likely to be for just for these games. If Eevee wants elemental moves in the core series it has to hope GF maybe throws it a bone and maybe allows it to learn certain ones via Move Tutor or maybe being bred from an Eeveelution.
I would REALLY love if those moves don't stay PLGO only. Ultimately, Surf Pikachu sort-of-got legalized again in gen 7 (though it locks it out of egg moves I guess), and there was a Fly Pikachu distribution (lol).
Eevolutions actually having a moveset would be something lot of people ask since ages and would even make sense if you plan on making Eevee a co-mascot to Pikachu in the future, and I can see basically every special based Eevolution to get a significant bump in competitive power (and even in-game power) if that was to happen, even if it was just limited to the Fire/Water/Electric types.
Something I'd wonder is if those moves (as far as PLGO goes) are also limited to the starter poke or learnarble by wild versions as well, obviously.
I know the most likely answer is they'll be tied to the PLGO starters and will not reappear in gen 8 games, but one can dream I guess.
Does turning off battle animations turn off the Z-Move animations (though even if they did it should be a separate option, or have an option to do a quicker animation)?
It does remove 90% of the animation, you only see the Poke gain the aura without even the trainer animation, but lot of people (me included) despise playing without animations on :[
 
I'm guessing they wanted to stick close with the original Japanese name for those exclusive moves, but the difference is that めらめら and ざぶざぶ are actually used in Japanese so they aren't actually baby talk, unlike their English counterparts.
 

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I'm guessing they wanted to stick close with the original Japanese name for those exclusive moves, but the difference is that めらめら and ざぶざぶ are actually used in Japanese so they aren't actually baby talk, unlike their English counterparts.
So it's the translation team's fault either way. Like for all those who think the Z-Moves sound ridiculous, you should see what some of them are in Japan:

Breakneck Blitz: Ultra Dash Attack
All-Out Pummeling: Full-Force Unrivalled Fierce Fist
Acid Downpour: Acid Poison Delete
Savage Spin-Out: Absolute Predatory Spin-Out
Never-Ending Nightmare: Invitation to the Endless Night
Twinkle Tackle: Lovely Star Impact
Pulverizing Pancake: Go All Out Attack
Let's Snuggle Forever: Bip-Bop Friend Time

While they sound alright in Japanese, in English they sound ridiculous. But that's okay, because the translation team caught that and changed them so they still had the same meaning but sounded "coolor" or at least not like they through a batch of words together.

I'm wondering if this was a core series title if they would have changed the name of Starter Pikachu/Eevee's attacks. They're approaching Let's Go differently from the core series with the focus on younger players, so they might be willing to let the sillier sounding literal names through. Though I can't think a kid would find these names appealing as they're too kiddish; these are supposed to be special moves, something a kid would want to scream out (or maybe say slyly or creepily like I imagine with Let's Snuggle Forever).
 
So it's the translation team's fault either way.
Absolutely. Instead of interviews with Masuda and the other developers, I want to see an interview with the English translation team to see what they were thinking when they translated these moves. Wonder what the translations are in other languages, though.
 
I want to see an interview with the English translation team to see what they were thinking when they translated these moves.
You probably don't. No doubt you'll get some non-answer like "we wanted the names to appeal to kids" with no further explanation or follow-up.

Wonder what the translations are in other languages, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOJ_eXsZL8Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_soomU820k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neU7cvhH8pM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3mihxFOCsA

Spanish:
Salpikasurf
Vapodrenaje
Joltioparálisis
Flarembestida

French:
Pika-Splash
Évo-Thalasso
Évo-Dynamo
Évo-Flambo

German:
Plätschersurfer
Blubbsauger
Knisterladung
Flackerbrand

Italian:
Surfasplash
Bollaslurp
Elettrozap
Fiammabam

Not going to attempt to transcribe the Korean names, but they're here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSnvtxiGlsM
 
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French:
Pika-Splash
Évo-Thalasso
Évo-Dynamo
Évo-Flambo

German:
Plätschersurfer
Blubbsauger
Knisterladung
Flackerbrand
While I can't comment on the other languages because I don't know them, French and German names look fine to me. Do you happen to know the Chinese versions too? Chinese names could be really cringe too, and I noticed that this moves list is incomplete for the Chinese translations.

In any case, Project Eevee tweeted a video of Eevee using Sea Skim here.
 
As an experiment, I tried figuring out the smallest changes necessary to the new move names so that they no longer sound like baby talk:

Bouncy Bubble -> Bubble Bounce
This brings it more or less in line with Bubble Beam, and keeps the playful tone while making it less cringe-worthy. Still not a good descriptor of what the move actually does, though. Other names: Aqua Drain, Water Leech

Splishy Splash -> Splash Surf
Like above, this keeps the same idea but no longer sounds like you're trying to get your toddler / small animal to take a bath, nor does it somehow sound less useful than plain ol' Splash. Other names: Static Wave, Electrosurf

Buzzy Buzz -> Buzz Bolt or Bolt Buzz
This one's tough, especially trying to change it as little as possible, but just swapping out one of the buzzes for something else goes a long way. Other name: Static Crackle

Sizzly Slide -> Sizzle Slide
One letter. ONE LETTER is all they had to change to make this move go from sounding ridiculous to actually sounding kind of cool. Other names: Fire Jet, Flame Ride

Actually, these attack names all follow the formula of [adjective ending in Y] [alliterative noun], which is also extremely common in 'baby talk'. The adjective ending in Y in particular is the issue here, and it shows how much better the names become when you remove it.

EDIT: If you want a hilarious image, picture Ash in a high-stakes battle and shouting, in desperation, "Pikachu! Quick, use Splishy Splash!"
 
Veevee Volley? WTH, it literally took me two seconds to think of Eevee Evolley
Spanish:
Salpikasurf
Vapodrenaje
Joltioparálisis
Flarembestida
"Salpicar" means "to splash", the Spanish Localization team literally had it handed on a silver platter.
The rest are generic "shortened evolution name" + noun constructions:
"Drenaje" means "drain"
"Parálisis", from the ancient Greek "parálysis", means "loss of ability to move", I could swear there was a word in English for this
"Embestida" means more or less "charge". It's usually used to describe frontal attacks by bulls.
If Joltioparalisis is the correct spelling, as opposed to Jolteoparalisis, they are either trying to preserve the English pronunciation or sneaking a "voltio" ("volt") in there.
Unlike "vapor", "jolt" and "flare" aren't Spanish words, it's a bit awkward
 

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The rest are generic "shortened evolution name" + noun constructions:
"Drenaje" means "drain"
"Parálisis", from the ancient Greek "parálysis", means "loss of ability to move", I could swear there was a word in English for this
"Embestida" means more or less "charge". It's usually used to describe frontal attacks by bulls.
If Joltioparalisis is the correct spelling, as opposed to Jolteoparalisis, they are either trying to preserve the English pronunciation or sneaking a "voltio" ("volt") in there.
Unlike "vapor", "jolt" and "flare" aren't Spanish words, it's a bit awkward
A bit awkward, but hey at least tried to integrate the Eeveelution's name into the attack. That's a little thing that annoyed me about I Eevee's attacks, why didn't they use the Eeveelution's name as inspiration? This goes for the Japanese names too as the name of the Gen I Eeveelutions is Showers, Thunders, and Booster!
 

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French:
Pika-Splash
Évo-Thalasso
Évo-Dynamo
Évo-Flambo
As for French names, they sound actually alright, even a bit science-y for Eevee's, and are actually much better than what our translated Z-Moves sound like.
Small explanation for Eevee's moves (Pika's is self-explanatory):
"Thalasso" comes from θάλασσα, which is the Greek word for "sea", it's easy enough to link it to water.
"Dynamo" is a type of device that produces electricity, I believe it's the same in English?
"Flambo" comes from the French verb flamber, which kind of means "to burn", so, yeah, Fire and stuff.

e: The "Évo-" part before these comes from Eevee's French name, Évoli, which in turn comes from the word évolution, which means... evolution.

All in all much more satisfied of these names than of the English ones, which is rare these days.
 
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I have to admit, as much as I'm not too keen on the game's graphics graphics considering they really don't look any better than the 3DS games (not to mention the models for the Pokemon were ripped right out of them as well...), the Celadon Department Store's storefront looks really cool in 3D (especially that fountain). And I like how trainers are now going to have their Pokemon out of their Pokeballs. Never understood why HGSS didn't do that as much considering one of its selling points was walking with the Pokemon in the front spot.

However, nitpick time: I dislike how Koffing's smoke is opaque. You'd think it'd be transparent to a certain degree considering it's... smoke.

Also: the player riding on a Dodrio implies to me that some of Kanto's open ended design still remains (if it wasn't even touched, which I hope is the case) since Doduo can't be caught anywhere but Routes 16-18 and the Safari Zone. Then again, this screenshot may not even show a player who hasn't received the Rainbow Badge; it could be afterwards. But still, gotta have some hope.
 
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Part of me wants some kind of Dodrio racing minigame. Maybe next to Cycling Road, just have a race course or something. Probably won't get it, and after seeing what they did with Mantine Surf they'd probably butcher it, too.
 
Part of me wants some kind of Dodrio racing minigame. Maybe next to Cycling Road, just have a race course or something. Probably won't get it, and after seeing what they did with Mantine Surf they'd probably butcher it, too.
How did they butcher Mantine Surf?
 
How did they butcher Mantine Surf?
It was very much like Poke Finder for me, in that it seemed a lot more like a chore than anything else for the rewards that I'd much rather get through Battle Tree.

Maybe I'm in the minority in despising Mantine Surf?
 

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