Da...well shit you learn something everyday.
Here's a kangaroo foot, the disembowelment aspect should be clearer now
Da...well shit you learn something everyday.
Here's a kangaroo foot, the disembowelment aspect should be clearer now
But going by that logic, shouldn't Mach Punch be Normal-type too? Hitting really fast isn't necessarily a martial arts thing either, there are animals that can hit super fast (the mantis shrimp IIRC can punch so fast they produce heat comparable to that of a star, if only briefly).Imagine getting kicked in the skull by a horse. You wouldn't call that a fighting skill in the martial arts pokémon sense. It's just an animal kicking you, no real skill or mastery there. But because the horse's leg is built like a fucking truck you'll at least break your jaw or something.
This whole approach is the fundamental distinction of mega punch/kick vs the other moves and normal vs fighting. Sure, the descriptions are simple, but could a monkey cross chop you? not really, but it might be able to just deck you out with a punch. is a kangaroo going to high jump kick you? probably not, but it might just kick you normally and break half of your bones.
Probably yeah, it's one of the more generic fighting moves, and the only way you know it was meant to be a martial arts thing is because it was the signature of hitmonchan.But going by that logic, shouldn't Mach Punch be Normal-type too? Hitting really fast isn't necessarily a martial arts thing either, there are animals that can hit super fast (the mantis shrimp IIRC can punch so fast they produce heat comparable to that of a star, if only briefly).
For what it's worth, I think their Fighting-type status stems from the fact that their Japanese names being based on dedicated martial arts/sports techniques.High Jump Kick and Jump Kick also have accuracy issues. I don't think there's anything saying inaccuracy and martial arts or fighting skill are connected.
I can't say much about Dynamic Punch (other than that its JP name is Exploding Punch) but considering it's employing the user's full, concentrated power, I do think it involves heightened mental focus and full body training to employ its use. Martial arts techniques often employ heightened amount of mental focus to bring out even greater power, hence what makes Dynamic Punch stand out. I believe Focus Punch employs something like this as well, where the user focuses its mental energy to deliver a maximum power punch.To compare a few punch moves...
Dynamicpunch: ''The foe is punched with the user’s full, concentrated power. It confuses the foe if it hits.''
Mach Punch: ''The user throws a punch at blinding speed. It is certain to strike first.''
Mega Punch: ''The foe is slugged by a punch thrown with muscle-packed power.''
But how is that any different from Mega Punch?The other punching moves that are Fighting-type probably employ something similar based on descriptions. Hammer Arm involves the user slamming its fist into the opponent with immense force
Because GF said so.But how is that any different from Mega Punch?
Thanks, now in my head I can't unsee mommy Pangoro telling to her son "Come here, I'm not going to do anything to you" after he did something stupid.Because GF said so.
GF wanted there to be a Normal-type "punch" move so made Mega Punch.
GF wanted there to be a Fighting-type "punch" move so made Dynamic Punch.
Looking for hard reasoning isn't going to turn up much, what we said is the best you're going to get. Mega Punch is from a cranky Snorlax you woke up from its nap and so swings around at you with its fist and its weight behind it. Dynamic Punch is a pi**sed off Pangoro who saw a bully push down a kid so tells that bully to "come here", that bully not knowing Pangoro is prepping a punch in the bully's vital spot and applying his weight into it for maximum damage.
These Pokemon are violent by nature and often attack in melee, so this is why they got this move I guess.Why do so many pokemon based on marine life get Close Combat? It makes sense for Poliwrath and Grapploct etc, they are part-Fighting type, but these three?
When was the last time you got beaten up by a fish?
(Also kinda funny that the otherwise regal, composed Xerneas gets it)
Crawdaunt is actually a red swamp crayfish according to Bulbapedia, and according to google they are actually highly aggressive and they tend to kill their own species using their claws. I'm pretty sure that's why Crawdaunt gets Close Combat, I could be wrong.Why do so many pokemon based on marine life get Close Combat? It makes sense for Poliwrath and Grapploct etc, they are part-Fighting type, but these three?
When was the last time you got beaten up by a fish?
Crawdaunt could beat you up with its pincers, but Barraskewda and Sharpedo might simply ram non-stop, and Xerneas tramples you.Why do so many pokemon based on marine life get Close Combat? It makes sense for Poliwrath and Grapploct etc, they are part-Fighting type, but these three?
When was the last time you got beaten up by a fish?
(Also kinda funny that the otherwise regal, composed Xerneas gets it)
Not that the logic is necessarily wrong but "close combat" is just as descriptive as "infight" for the purposes of move distribution: you are getting up close (in) and fighting (combat).Also, we gonna keep in mind the Japanese name of moves which is what GF uses to base if a Pokemon gets it or not. So in this case, Close Combat's Japanese name is "Infight". Also here is its description which I think would be the same for both English and Japanese: "The user fights the target up close without guarding itself. This also lowers the user's Defense and Sp. Def stats".
However, I can understand the confusion if you more remember Close Combat's animation before the 3D transition. Gen V and before (as well as side games), Close Combat was represented by many fists images appearing on the target which gives you the impression its a punching move. Not helping matters is that when introduced all Pokemon that learned the move either from Level-up or Egg Move had arms/limbs (the only "odd ones" were Zangoose as it was more of a slasher and Staraptor cause it was a bird). Gen V added the Swords of Justice but it was probably something easily overlooked at they were all Fighting-types (though Growlithe got it as an Egg Move).
Gen VI changed the animation from a barrage of fists to just the user ramming into the target, thus getting rid of that ambiguity. Still, the list of Pokemon that got it was kept quite small, Xerneas the only Gen VI mon to get it and Gen VII's additions all had limbs and generally were punchers (though Mudbray got it as an Egg Move). Gen VIII when it became a TR was when the REALLY expanded the list of Pokemon who could learn it (also note, Close Combat was never a Tutor Move, who knows if more Pokemon would have gotten it if it was). Notably Tauros, Sharpedo, Escavalier, Bouffalant, Honedge family, Tyrantrum, Lycanroc, Solgaleo, Arrokuda family, Perrserker, & Glastrier; Mons which either don't have non-leg limbs or prefer a different physical form of battling aside for punching.
Never played Dwarf Fortress? :PWhy do so many pokemon based on marine life get Close Combat? It makes sense for Poliwrath and Grapploct etc, they are part-Fighting type, but these three?
When was the last time you got beaten up by a fish?
(Also kinda funny that the otherwise regal, composed Xerneas gets it)
Solar Beam, along with Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, and to a lesser extent Flamethrower, are what I like to call "yeah sure whatever" moves. All of them just kinda get slapped onto Pokemon without much rhyme or reason.Why do some Pokemon like Stantler, Miltank, Ninjask, Swalot or Lopunny can learn Solar Beam ?
This was especially bad in the first gen, with oddities like Thunderbolt Raticate or Flamethrower Machamp. It has gotten better over the generations, but some strange cases happen from time to time (like Flamethrower Slurpuff).Solar Beam, along with Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, and to a lesser extent Flamethrower, are what I like to call "yeah sure whatever" moves. All of them just kinda get slapped onto Pokemon without much rhyme or reason.
This one's simply funny. It should basically melt by using the move.(like Flamethrower Slurpuff)
Actually this relates to a specific scientific thing for rats, so it's not far off. Though at that point, thunder wave makes more senseThis was especially bad in the first gen, with oddities like Thunderbolt Raticate
but some strange cases happen from time to time (like Flamethrower Slurpuff).
Why do some Pokemon like Stantler, Miltank, Ninjask, Swalot or Lopunny can learn Solar Beam ?
On top of that, many of these are "energy moves" where the basic idea behind them is just the user somehow able to gather the correct amount of energy. For Thunderbolt is getting enough of an electrical charge (for example, in the anime during the Orange Islands arc Ash battled a Persian that knew Thunderbolt because it gathered the static electricity it fur can store-up), for Flamethrower its just heat (all Pokemon seem to be able to gather energy in some way so, as long as high temperatures don't hurt/bother them, it's not out of the realm of possibility the process of gathering energy also creates heat). For Solar Beam it's light energy, or rather possibly light energy which has been filtered through plantlife hence it being Grass-type. The Pokemon just needs to draw that light energy together before firing it (sort of think the Spirit Bomb from Dragon Ball).Solar Beam, along with Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, and to a lesser extent Flamethrower, are what I like to call "yeah sure whatever" moves. All of them just kinda get slapped onto Pokemon without much rhyme or reason.