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doesn't the new evolving animation looks like the pokemon were like just data?, i mean normally it would just kinda show the pokemon meta morphing or changing shape now it looks like digimon evolving, or is it just me?
 
doesn't the new evolving animation looks like the pokemon were like just data?, i mean normally it would just kinda show the pokemon meta morphing or changing shape now it looks like digimon evolving, or is it just me?

I agree. I thought it was a nice change until you mentioned that. It would be nice if they had cooler looking evolution scenes but I guess that'd be too much for a DS game XD

@Blasphemy1 - I see what you did there
 
doesn't the new evolving animation looks like the pokemon were like just data?, i mean normally it would just kinda show the pokemon meta morphing or changing shape now it looks like digimon evolving, or is it just me?

To me it resembles DNA strands, which is pretty neat IMO, considering it is evolving.
 
I really like the effect, myself. It looks a lot more visually pleasing in my opinion, but my question is are they going to change how they evolve in the anime as well to match this? That'd be crazy stuff.
 
I'm sorry I must have missed the discussion, but that wasn't the point of my post anyway. I was replying to the question about "eagles being super fast" which they are not, they are average among large birds.

Either way you can't confirm that speed is reaction based when arguments could be made either way. Sure it explains why the pokedex says Pidgeot and Dragonite are fast, but Speed Deoxys sheds its power and bulk to become more aerodynamic so it can move faster. Pokeathon also disagrees with the reaction theory in that high speed pokemon get high speed pokeathon stat so they can run/fly faster. Obviously with some exceptions which goes further to show you can't say one way or the other. Maybe it varies depending on the pokemon in question. Maybe it is all random. But if it has been discussed I don't want to reopen the subject.

If you want to reopen it, then here's my needlessly long post about speed.

It seems to me that speed is more based off of maneuverability than on how fast the Pokemon can go, atleast for flying Pokemon. Pokemon that can hover such as Gengar, Lati@s, and Ninjask all have high speeds because they can hover, which indicates that they would have atleast good maneuverability in D&D. Pokemon such as Skarmory cannot hover and therefore would have average mobility or lower. Of course, in Pokemon, Gliscor and Zapdos can hover and I would only consider them to have average mobility and it's obvious that Gengar can maneuver much better than Zapdos and Gliscor.

For evolutions of Pokemon, speed almost always increases even though the Pokemon might actually lose some maneuverability. For example, Pikachu can maneuver much better than Raichu in the anime despite having a lower speed stat. In this instance, you should think of it as Pikachu has above average maneuverability for a Stage 1 Pokemon while Raichu has below average maneuverability for a Stage 2 Pokemon. The Pokeathlon actually supports this idea since Pikachu has a higher max speed than Raichu, even though skill is usually what determines maneuverability in the Pokeathlon. Other evolution lines (such as Munchlax to Snorlax) also have speed stats that are wildly off, by this definition, but they still work in Gamefreak's eyes.

Of course, maneuverability is not the only factor that contributes to a Pokemon's speed; how fast it can go can also contribut to it. For example, Espeon and Jolteon have probably about the same maneuverability, but Jolteon is significantly faster, so it has a higher speed. Another example is Deoxys; the Attack Form, Normal Form, and Speed Form can all maneuver well, but the Speed Form's aerodynamic design allows it to move faster. The Defense Form cannot maneuver as well, and probably can't move as fast, which is why its speed stat is significantly lower.

In short, speed is based mostly off of Dexterity and only a little bit (20 to 30 points) on Movement Speed.

Dungeons & Dragons, helping to explain video games since before they were even created.

(I have to figure out how I can write a term paper on this stuff.)
 
More Speed could help Mamoswine but since it can already outspeed the bulky Pokemon and has a powerful Ice Shard, I think that a stroger Ice move and something that can 2HKO Bronzong when it holds a Choice Band would be best for it. An ability that actually does something under normal conditions would be nice.

On the contrary, I see no reason for Mamoswine to have an ability to 2HKO Bronzong. After all, the first thing I can think of to resist Ice and Ground would be Levitate Bronzong. You wouldn't want something to be completely uncounterable....
 
On the contrary, I see no reason for Mamoswine to have an ability to 2HKO Bronzong. After all, the first thing I can think of to resist Ice and Ground would be Levitate Bronzong. You wouldn't want something to be completely uncounterable....

I figured it would only actually be able to 2HKO Bronzong if it held a Choice Band; not if it was only holding a Life Orb or Leftovers. I guess even if it can 3HKO it, it would be a problem since Bronzong doesn't have reliable recovery.

Edit: @BuddyBlueBomber: Thanks, now all I have to do is figure out a good way to eplain that SpDef is Wisdom.
 
I figured it would only actually be able to 2HKO Bronzong if it held a Choice Band; not if it was only holding a Life Orb or Leftovers. I guess even if it can 3HKO it, it would be a problem since Bronzong doesn't have reliable recovery.

Now you've gotten me thinking of a Calm Mind Recover Bronzong. Scary stuff. DO IT.
 
Now you've gotten me thinking of a Calm Mind Recover Bronzong. Scary stuff. DO IT.

That would probably work just well enough to not be broken because it doesn't have Earthpower to give it a good attack against Fires and would probably still lose to Heatran because you'd have to go with Psychic/Shadow Ball or HP Fighting or Flash Cannon/HP Ground. Of course, Bronzong's resistances already make it good so I don't think it really needs a boost, unless a better Levitating Steel comes along.
 
Edit: @BuddyBlueBomber: Thanks, now all I have to do is figure out a good way to eplain that SpDef is Wisdom.

Well Wisdom is pretty much akin to common sense, as well as resisting effects that have to do with the mind. It's a fairly large stretch. I don't have my books on me at the moment, so I can't really check the fine print for a connection. The best way to explain something like that would have to be along the lines of being able to resist these various attacks through mental toughness and dealing with pain. Kinda like a mix between Intelligence and Constitution. It also explains how Amnesia works a bit, I guess.
 
Pretty sure that pokabu will remain on all fours. Every gen there's been one poke who was on all fours while the rest were bipedal. Venusaur, Meganium, Swampert, Torterra. About time we get a fire one. XD Also, pretty sure wotter's gonna be a total powerhouse and the one Ash gets.
 
Does Superpower on Wooguru mean that it'll have 130 base attack or a really high attack stat?

Not unless it gets it from a Tutor move. Things like Swampert and Azurill get it from other means but it seems the cutt off for the move tutor is 120 Base and you also have to have no hands (unless you're Dragonite and not Salamence; I think maybe they coded that wrong).
 
On the topic of Wargle, one thing I just noticed now from the video: Wargle learns Claw Sharpen. The other thing is that it has 162 HP @ Lv. 50 so expect it to have ~80-90 base HP.
 
On the topic of Wargle, one thing I just noticed now from the video: Wargle learns Claw Sharpen. The other thing is that it has 162 HP @ Lv. 50 so expect it to have ~80-90 base HP.

Are there any low-accuracy moves Flying-types tend to learn? I cannot think of any relevant one, except for Stone Edge (which I don't even known is really learned by many Flying pokémon).

And on which video did you see that? I only saw Wargle using Hyper Beam and Superpower on all three of them.

EDIT -- Nvm saw it, third video, 4:27, right after Mijumaru's Shell Blade on Gochiruzeru.
 
On the topic of Wargle, one thing I just noticed now from the video: Wargle learns Claw Sharpen. The other thing is that it has 162 HP @ Lv. 50 so expect it to have ~80-90 base HP.

Interesting, but not very useful unless given a movepool with several inaccurate attacks. The HP seems like something that sounds reasonable; about the same as Staraptor. I really hope we don't get a clone, because the similarities between the two birds continues to rise. Hopefully stats/movepool/Encourage will set them enough apart.
 
I CAN'T WAIT FOR B/W FSJOSJGKAK

But really, the new footage is awesome, although the dialogue interface with the green haired fellow does looks very Yu-Gi-Oh-like. New Pokémon look very promising, and I might actually keep battle animations on in generation 5. I really hope that pink heart shaped fish thing is a Luvdisc evolution

Can anyone tell me what the small green bar next to the apparent HP bar is in the battle interface or have we not learned that yet? (Don't speculate either)

Edit: (In response to people getting tricked by fake leaks again,) maybe if you people would stop speculating so much over nothing then you wouldn't be let down or faked out
 
Interesting, but not very useful unless given a movepool with several inaccurate attacks. The HP seems like something that sounds reasonable; about the same as Staraptor. I really hope we don't get a clone, because the similarities between the two birds continues to rise. Hopefully stats/movepool/Encourage will set them enough apart.

85/120/70/70/70/110=525. Wargle won't be the early regional bird so its BST can be higher than Staraptor's (whose stats are 85/120/70/50/50/100=475), and the spread I suggested would be the easiest route to go with it. If Superpower really has its side effect negated by Encourage, then Wargle has the upper hand already.
 
Are there any low-accuracy moves Flying-types tend to learn? I cannot think of any relevant one, except for Stone Edge (which I don't even known is really learned by many Flying pokémon).

And on which video did you see that? I only saw Wargle using Hyper Beam and Superpower on all three of them.

EDIT -- Nvm saw it, third video, 4:27, right after Mijumaru's Shell Blade on Gochiruzeru.

There's Fly and Bounce but no one really uses those on anything but Gyarados.

Free Fall might have lower accuracy so you don't stall indefinitely.

Edit: I think Substitute/Roost/Free Fall/Super Power with Leftovers is going to end up being deadly combination.
 
Claw Sharpen gives him an attack boost, that's enough reason alone. Most birds don't get a boosting move, so at least this gives him something he can use to increase his attack stat. Free Fall might not be 100% accurate, either, so those two moves could work together.
 
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