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Gone for 3 days, and hella ton of conversation. I'm late on things, but the leaf bug is.. weird, lol. Koromori will be epicccc, but then everyone's gonna be hating it when it keeps appearing every 5 seconds
EDIT: COKTAL- NONONONONONONONONO TSUTAJA IS GONNA BE ELECTRIC OR STEEL, PERIOD, AND IT'S GONNA HAVE THE BST THAT I SAID BEFORE, AND IF GF BREAKS MY HEART I SWEAR I'LL BREAK THEIR LITTLE @$$3$
 
This will be the first time since Pokemon Gold where I won't buy repels and just run through the routes. Hopefully they will be more intelligent with distribution of species so every route has some notable Pokemon, and entice you to take the extra time to look for them. They have the perfect concept; all new Pokemon pre-national dex. Now let's see the execution; distribution of those Pokemon and degree of difficulty to catch them. I can't wait.

@ Scicky: That'd be too good to be true, lol.
 
Death Phenomeno said:
Gee, I wonder how Pokémon like Rayquaza or Wailord are going to work out in those dancing stages.

As for the TMs and their trading, what's stopping the game from treating them just as TMs and not actually moves? For example, if you grab Focus Punch, the games will treat it as TM01 the whole time until you "boot" it. Maybe when you trade TM01, it won't be the same thing over there.

Then again, in Gen. 4 they merely expanded the number, so I'm probably missing something here.


And I'm going to laugh so hard if Wuvdisc isn't related at all to Luvdics, rather being something like a stat swap.
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Technically, the TMs already are "just TMs" in the programming. But point is, it doesn't "make sense" to have a TM01 in one game containing Focus Punch only for it to be changed to Close Combat when sent from DPPt to B/W. Unless, of course, they come up with a REALLY good excuse ("every TM from Sinnoh must be updated to Isshu's official TM codification" or something), I don't see them changing the current 92 TMs at all.
 
@Mario: Yeah, that really wouldn't work out. They'd have to do some wierd coding for each to work. Unless they do something like the TM case back in LG/FR, and have 2 cases. The first be for the new TMs, and the second you get post game that can hold 4th gen TMs. But that'd suck to have all that. I'm just going to hope for a small add on, or only bring a few back and no migrating (can't remeber what it's called this gen) old ones.
 
I think whether or not the TMs remain the same will ride on whether or not the PokeShifter requires you to remove held items, and thus making it so TMs can not be transferred.

On the other hand, though, seeing as Shikijika is confirmed to have Energy Ball and that seems to be the attack they focused on in the video, I would find it strange if it didn't learn it by level. As a deer and if we go on the rumor that it's supposed to have evolutions based on season, there's a pretty strong connection to nature, so I could sorta kinda imagine it getting it via level up even if it's Normal-type. It would be unusual, though. I just really don't want the same TMs with some extra.
 
Stellar said:
Gliscor, Probopass, Gallade, Lickilicky, Leafeon, Glaceon, Togekiss, Magnezone, Tangrowth, Yanmega, Rhyperior, Dusknoir, Porygon-Z, Electivire, Magmortar, Mamoswine, and Froslass were not in the Sinnoh Pokedex in Diamond and Pearl. They could easily do something like this again.
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Noted.
PKMN Trainer Manson said:
I think whether or not the TMs remain the same will ride on whether or not the PokeShifter requires you to remove held items, and thus making it so TMs can not be transferred.
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More like the other way around. If they decide they want a new set of TM's then the Pokeshifter won't allow held items, or the opposite. I could see them sticking with the gen IV TM's just because a whole new set of Pokemon will be using them, and there are a ton of them so they won't feel too stale.
 
So far we've seen 35/150 (assuming the number is 150) pokemon.
Adding (speculating, in fact xP)
+6 (starters evolution)
+2 (leafpillar line)
+2 (mamepato line)
+1 (Meguroko line)
+2 (Kibago line)
+2 (koromori line)
+1 (hihidaruma line)
+4 (shikijika line (seasons))
+1 (chillarmy line)
+1 (Gear line)
+1 (shimama line)
we get 58/150. This leaves 92 more pokemon.
Assuming there wont be any 4 pokemon line of evoluiton, we may see from 92 to 31 new lines (counting evolutions of previous pokemon as a new line)
 
I like it when I don't know what i'm up against. All new: a new challenge like the first time i played the 1st, 2nd and 3rd gens. With the 4th I knew what to expect. Now I won't.
 
Pombo said:
So far we've seen 35/150 (assuming the number is 150) pokemon.
Adding (speculating, in fact xP)
+6 (starters evolution)
+2 (leafpillar line)
+2 (mamepato line)
+1 (Meguroko line)
+2 (Kibago line)
+2 (koromori line)
+1 (hihidaruma line)
+4 (shikijika line (seasons))
+1 (chillarmy line)
+1 (Gear line)
+1 (shimama line)
we get 58/150. This leaves 92 more pokemon.
Assuming there wont be any 4 pokemon line of evoluiton, we may see from 92 to 31 new lines (counting evolutions of previous pokemon as a new line)
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That's some good speculation ^-^
EDIT: I just caught something... Victini is Fire/Psychic? :O I didn't know that! That's awesome
 
Chateau said:
More like the other way around. If they decide they want a new set of TM's then the Pokeshifter won't allow held items, or the opposite. I could see them sticking with the gen IV TM's just because a whole new set of Pokemon will be using them, and there are a ton of them so they won't feel too stale.
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That's getting unnecessarily technical. Regardless of which happens first, them deciding the PokeShifter shouldn't transfer items or them deciding they want all-new TMs, the outcome will be the same.

I would just like to see Pokemon get far more new options then just whatever we get tacked onto the list of TMs we have now. But I guess either way, yeah, there will probably be new stuff and even with the old TMs, we'll have new Pokemon to use them on.
 
Chateau said:
It would seem like a waste of time on GF's part to create more than a couple non-legendary Pokemon that are totally invisible until after the main portion of the game, especially since they're producing such a buttload of new Pokes this gen.
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I for one hope there aren't too many legendaries either, though. DP having (I think) 14 legendaries in total was way too many. You can't possibly need more than 7, unless you want to churn out even more anime movies.
 
My thinking is that they could number Isshu TMs from some X>93 up while only allowing you to obtain most older TMs by item trade or from battle tower purchases post Elite four.
That way they wouldn't have to scatter over 100 TMs throughout the game but you'd still eventually have all of them available.
 
This is probably nothing, but lots of the new pokemon released so far seem to have a slight counterpart in Gen I, to me at least. Here are some of the more apparent ones:

Drowzee -> Munna
Pikachu -> Chillarmy
Magnemite -> Gear
Ponyta -> Shimama
Zubat -> Koromori
Diglett -> Moguryu

A lot of them however are not linked. I am really starting to look forward to this game, it is combining all the good aspects of all the previous generations and it looks to be weeding out the bad ones.
 
For reference, there are 79 unique lines of Pokemon in the original 151. (this includes legendary and single stage pokemon as 1 each and hitmonchan/lee as two seperate lines).

16 three-stage.
38 two-stage (eevee counting as 1 total).
19 single-stage.
5 legends.

I'd expect something similar from the regional dex in Isshu, although there will probably be more than 5 legends (similar to DP). That's a bunch of new Pokemon, especially considering DP only offered 6 (completely new) three-stage evolutions, 20 (again, completely new) two-stage evolutions, and 18 (completely new, including legends) stand-alone Pokemon. That's along with several new (pre-)evolutions, but most of those weren't easily available when doing a simple playthrough.

I like the way 5th gen is heading as a whole.
 
Voltres said:
I for one hope there aren't too many legendaries either, though. DP having (I think) 14 legendaries in total was way too many. You can't possibly need more than 7, unless you want to churn out even more anime movies.
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Oh they do. Not to mention how much they like having promotional events. And with the whopper of a pokedex we're getting, there'll be plenty of room for as many legendaries as they want. I'd guess even more than Sinnoh.
 
I do like the addition of more fire types this generation. So far we have:

2 Legendaries
1 Standard (who judging by his looks is likely to have at least one evolution)
3 from the traditional starter line

So that's already 6 confirmed with hopefully more on the way. Needless to say that I was a little sore that they only gave us a total of 5 new fire types in gen 4 (though I loved them all). Is it odd that I'm kinda hoping that Victini lands in OU instead of Uber, just so that I can use him more?
 
I figure that the spread of different type pokemon will be a bit more even than last generation, since we are going to only have 150~ brand new pokemon to use through the story, so they can't really go too heavy with one type over another (but all the psychics thus far may prove me wrong).
 
We got jack shit for Psychic types last gen (except Bronzong line/the three pixies/Cresselia) so I don't mind all the new Psychics.
 
Well, with 150 Pokemon there can be up to 300 'slots' for types but realistically it'll be some number in between.
From that perspective I don't think we've seen an above average number of Psychics.
They have shown us quite a few but it could just mean that less Psychics remain to be seen than waters, for example.
I'm pretty confident that they're not so many Psychics that they picked random Gen V Pokemon to show and came up with so many of them.
 
If I had a cool Pokemon that has monsterous Attack and Speed, I would name it "Magnum"

COKTAL said:
So we've seen roughly 30 out of 150 or so? That means there's still plently of new things to come out as well. I can't wait to see the evolutions of Tsutarja. I'm hoping it ends up as a Grass/Dark type just because it'd be cool.
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We already have a Grass/Dark type: the Cacnea family.
Besides, we can at least have something better like pure Grass or Grass/*insert best fitting type here*

Edit: OH SHIT! I FORGOT ABOUT THE SEEDOT FAMILY!

Skylar56 said:
Hopefuly it will be Grass/Dark or Grass/Flying.
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No way!

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