I thought the new Ghost that looked like a coffin (BAD. WITH. NAMES.) was Ground/Ghost or Rock/Ghost. Easy partner if it turns out to have decent Defense. :D
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I thought the new Ghost that looked like a coffin (BAD. WITH. NAMES.) was Ground/Ghost or Rock/Ghost. Easy partner if it turns out to have decent Defense. :D
We confirmed that its Ground/Ghost because it gets normal damage fome Drill Liner, which is most likely Steel,and it should be good defensively, but It should have a BST Sp.Atk over 100 to make it a good Earthquaker and Ghost user.
It's not steel, it hit Pokabu for super effective. It's most likely ground, but it could still be rock, which would still leave the possibility of Ghost/Rock open.
Or GF could troll us and make it a pure Ghost. </horror>
I think if it was Specially offensive, it wouldn't be much of an Earthquaker. It'd probably be better off running Earth Power + Shadow Ball. Also, he's got a lot of hands coming from him, which makes me hopeful for the ability to use fighting attacks. So while we're thinking wishfully here, let's pretend he gets Vacuum Wave too. Mmmmmmm.
I hope he's offensive rather than bulky, but something about a haunted sarcophagus makes me think defensive. He wouldn't make a very good spin blocker (assuming ghosts still block Rapid Spin and Rapid Spin is still used in BW, you never know how the metagame could change) because he's weak to water. Meaning Starmie, Kabutops, and Blastoise could all likely take him out themselves and just spin away. Tentacruel would have a harder time standing up to him if he's physically-based as STAB EQ would demolish him, but with Tentacruel's hefty Sp. Def he could likely take Earth Powers while exchanging blows with Surf.
Desukan would probably be commonly used by Sandstorm teams if he was either Ghost/Ground or Ghost/Rock. He'd be able to absorb all the Fighting type attacks that threaten the likes of T-tar, Heatran and Cradily while still being immune to Sandstorm (if he's part rock he even gets a boost). However, if he is part Rock, he still gets cornered by Scizor, but he could probably run a Mystic Set like Gengar and use Protect + HP Fire to scout him out, unless he's slower than Scizor and assuming most Scizor would be banded, of course.
Assuming Desukan is Ghost/Rock, I could totally see a combo of Heatran + Desukan + Quagsire working. Heatran takes the steel and ghost attacks for Desukan, who in return takes the fighting attacks, and Quagsire takes the water attacks for both. If Desukan had levitate that'd be even better since he could take ground attacks too.
Assuming Desukan is Ghost/Rock, I could totally see a combo of Heatran + Desukan + Quagsire working. Heatran takes the steel and ghost attacks for Desukan, who in return takes the fighting attacks, and Quagsire takes the water attacks for both. If Desukan had levitate that'd be even better since he could take ground attacks too.
Don't be so sure, a Trick Pokemon has to be the middle Pokemon to be guarenteed and chance to be able to Trick anyone on the field, in this situation a Follow Me user can be anywhere to draw the Trick to them, but lets make the Follow Me user the the middle Pokemon. You need to pray that you have Pokemon that is directly opposite the Acrobatic that has an Area Damaging move or the Acrobatic doing free Damage to anyone.
And we also have that Magic Room which hasn't been full analyzed yet so we don't know if that being active will double Acrobat's Power.
Of course Acrobat would be much different in the Single and Double metagame, where Trick will probably kill it.
Desukan cannot be Rock/Ghost. Drill Liner was neutral on it so, if it really is a Rock-type, then it's either Rock/Grass or Rock/Bug.
...Yeah, it surely is not a Rock-type.
Why not? Rock does neutral damage on Rock.
While I'm not going to deny a possibility of Desku being Rock, I'm still heavily leaning on Ground. Also, I'm partially suprised nobody thought that Desku would make a good Regice partner. :/ He'd likely be able to take next to everything but maybe a Banded Rock move for Regice if Desku turns out defensive, and even then, might threaten with Earth Power. Hell, I can see Regirock fitting in wonderfully with the Ghost in a Sandstorm.
I really doubt a mole, drill-themed, Ground-type pokémon would get a drill-themed Rock-type move when the other possible typing is Ground (or lol Water).
id assumed the trick user would be center, but thats a valid point. and follow me would be more useful in this case.
about desukan: it looks like ghost/ground so far. if like mario with lasers said, why would a ground type or ground/steel type have its signiture move another type. and drill liner did hit pokabu for SE, so it has to be a ground type, and desukan would probaly be ground if it took nuetral. in addition, desukan may not have levitate.
Desukan will probably be the Spiritomb of this generation with a unique typeing and only one in the game.
Yeah, but that thing can't stop either aerodactly or Swampert, maybe he can be good for stall, but i doubt that he would be a good lead.
But with the versatility of Ghost types with TM's,it could definatley learn some moves to defend itself,and its a Sarcophagus,so its defense has to be decent. And we cant account for new moves,it could get some good moves that help it against Surf and Dark type moves.
Well, considering the only ghosts that cannot learn an Electric move beyond 'LolHiddenPower' is Banette and maybe Drifblim, I would say there's a decent chance for it to learn at least Thunderbolt. Hell, with the ghost arms it has, I wouldn't be suprised if it knew Thunderpunch to ward off Surf users. And I doubt that the number 1 Dark Type, Tyranitar, would like switching into something like Earth Power or at least Focus Blast.
I think Forretress might be a good lead this generation especially for stall teams. You get a free Focus Sash, Sandstorm immunity, access to 3 entry hazards, Explosion, Payback, Gyro Ball etc. Can't decide whether I'd want a Lum berry or Custap berry though.
But if its Ground/Ghost,I wonder if it will get any of the Thunder moves,but it will definatley get Focus Blast so it can take on Tyranitar. I feel like the only Stat it will be lacking in will be Speed.
If it's Ground/Ghost then it should focus on using its Attack stat and Earthquake to hit Tyranitar with. It's interesting to note that nothing in OU resists Earthquake + Will-O-Wisp, although some oddball might decide to bring Charizard into an OU battle.
^Not to mention that physical ghosts are rather rare. Banette and Dusknoir (both from Hoenn, coincidentally), are the only two that really utilize the attack stat, so it could provide a nice alternative to Rotom-A, bringing different resists to the table and hitting on the opposite side of the spectrum. Just a thought.
Additionally, most ground types get rock type moves as well anyway. Edgequake + WoW could be completely solid.
talk about physical ghost i gotta say some stuff.
today i was searching for a physical ghost for my LC team and found almost nothing with a decent movepool and atack stat.
do you all know what that mean? you all do, we are seriously lacking physical ghosts, both NFE and fully evolved. gamefreak got a chance to fix that if the ghost/whatever new poke got a pre-evo. chances are we might get a decent physical ghost.
today i was searching for a physical ghost for my LC team and found almost nothing with a decent movepool and atack stat.
do you all know what that mean? you all do, we are seriously lacking physical ghosts, both NFE and fully evolved. gamefreak got a chance to fix that if the ghost/whatever new poke got a pre-evo. chances are we might get a decent physical ghost.
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