I doubt that, the DS's 3D engine is significantly weaker than the PSP's
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And Flareon...I know it's neat as a mixed attacker but could it last long? No. Eevee evolutions follow a pattern where one stat is 130, one is 110, 95, 65, 65, and 60. Its Def should be 65 instead of 60 and I would change the SpcAtt to 60 and put the 95 somewhere more helpful, like Speed or HP. They never changed anything this big so they probably never will...
@above: they could make a system more powerful than the DS. It's about time, too.
lol. Everyone was just talking bout how much space the DS Game cartridges have the day before yesterday, and now they suddenly have more then enough room for special battle animations for over 550 Pokemon (probably more than that, considering 550 will mean only 47 new Pokes. Count in NFEs, and that's practically nothing), every attack for every one of those 550/more Pokemon (yes, every attack for every Pokemon because they don't want the game to crash when somebody hacks "Magikarp used Giga Impact!"), new enormous 3D graphics, etc. Also keep in mind, as you said, it's a horrendous amount of work. It's just easier, and cleaner, to save it for the Generation 5 stadium game. It's also better to keep the 3d battle animations away from the hand-held games. It would just end up looking less blocky to have 3d Pokes on the wii.
The out-of-battle 3d animations look really nice, but in battle would look better w/o 3d Poke sprites.
Why do you think they invented Rock Polish and made the elemental punches move tutor moves? Don't forget TR, and Rhyperior doesn't get explosion.
I think Flareon is fine. Outdoes Octillery as a mixed TR attacker. It just needs a physical fire attack and maybe physical priority. Scratch that, he needs a larger physical movepool all together (but that probably won't happen, because the eve evos all need and are supposed to have restricted move pools).
Well, there is the 3DS, and since release dates are still sketchy, it could use that system.
Opinion; one I disagree with greatly.
Opinion.
also, it's a picture of one battle scene. we don't know how battles actually look, since it's most likely taken out of context.
"Hard work is totally bogus lets just copy/paste the Gen4 effects!" - Game Freak
Honestly, I doubt Game freak is just plain not going to do something just because it's "too much work"...
No--the games are clearly stated as being for the Nintendo DS platform. They may end up having enhanced features of some sort on the 3DS, but they're going to be made for the Nintendo DS.
I meant make the Poke sprites move. New animations for all the attack are a requirement. How would you feel if you were the 3d designer and you had to make a new animation for not only every single attack, but a sprite animation for over 550 Pokes (which is required), and then hear that you have to create a special animation for every Pokemon using every attack and your reason for all the extra work was "to keep hackers from crashing there games and having to buy a new one".
I would hate interactive Fly. Every time you want to Fly somewhere, you'd have to go through the mini-game. Remember the first Kingdom Hearts before you get to Warp to places immediately? That was awful...
I guess they could do the same done in Stadium 1 and 2. It wasn't exactly a transparent overlay, there was a bit more interaction with the pokémon and the move (even though we had things like Krabby doing its dance and then firing off Solarbeam out of its... mouth).
For animation, each pokemon would need:
-Standing sprite
-Second standing sprite for entry animation
-Physical attack sprite
-Special attack sprite
-non attack sprite
-fainting sprite
Of course the fainting isn't necesary, and they could just make one "action" sprite for all moves, making it at least 3 sprites per pokemon/forme.
-Standing sprite
-Second standing sprite for entry animation
-Physical attack sprite
-Special attack sprite
-non attack sprite
-fainting sprite
Of course the fainting isn't necesary, and they could just make one "action" sprite for all moves, making it at least 3 sprites per pokemon/forme.
That's like PBR. You need a fainting sprite. I like seeing Pokemon I don't like suffering as they're fainting (though some of them like Glaceon don't show much suffering).
They have interactive fly in the new Ranger game. You can choose to do the mini-game or not, and you can catch pokes in the sky (i.e., Staraptor, Latios). If you check Serebii, it also has it easyer to catch certain Pokemon depending on what is using fly (Staraptor can catch up and battle Pidgey, but you need something faster, like Latios, to catch up to and battle something faster, like Swellow or Ninjask). But if they did that, you have to keep in mind:
"Dodrio used Fly!"
"Mew used Fly!"
Yes. But everyone wants to see a Pokemon actually using Ice Punch, not the same sprite for every physical attack.
That is a good idea, though. What you have. And it would probably work pretty well. Now I'm hoping to see them do that.lol
this 3 sprites wouldn't actually be all that bad
the emerald sprites are able to look modern, have 2 of them, AND fit on a gba cartridge.
im sure a ds cartridge with 3 sprites instead of 2 wouldn't be too terrible to conceive
If you look closely at the pictures, you can see that the text still appears on the top screen, it's just that the HUD goes away once a pokemon is attacking. You can see this because Zoroark looks like he's using Dark Pulse, while directly to the left you can see battle text on the screen there. At least that's what it seems like. I could be wrong.
(lol I started typing this back when Mario with Lasers posted)
Yeah, from what I observed using hacked Pokemon in Stadium 1/2 each Pokemon had a set of animations like Summon, Tackle, Punch, Shoot, etc that each move in the game was set up to use, as well as markers to where the Pokemon's mouth, feet, eyes, etc were, so the animations kinda took care of themselves from there.
Venusaur uses Ice Punch: Venusaur dives forward with icy mist on both front paws
Caterpie uses Fire Blast: It does the String Shot movements but instead shoots fire from its mouth
Magikarp uses Earthquake: It flops around a bit then BOOM when it smacks the ground from its highest jump
Pikachu uses Fly: It raises its arms and soars up, then plays its stand animation in midair, later playing its tackle animation instead of diving down
etc.
The problem is that there are double the Pokemon and moves now than there were back then, so it's more reasonable to stick with sprites.
Yeah, from what I observed using hacked Pokemon in Stadium 1/2 each Pokemon had a set of animations like Summon, Tackle, Punch, Shoot, etc that each move in the game was set up to use, as well as markers to where the Pokemon's mouth, feet, eyes, etc were, so the animations kinda took care of themselves from there.
Venusaur uses Ice Punch: Venusaur dives forward with icy mist on both front paws
Caterpie uses Fire Blast: It does the String Shot movements but instead shoots fire from its mouth
Magikarp uses Earthquake: It flops around a bit then BOOM when it smacks the ground from its highest jump
Pikachu uses Fly: It raises its arms and soars up, then plays its stand animation in midair, later playing its tackle animation instead of diving down
etc.
The problem is that there are double the Pokemon and moves now than there were back then, so it's more reasonable to stick with sprites.
I just noticed. It shows the Pokemon's shadow in the Battle (look by Zoroark's feet in the image). It's hard to see because "Dark Pulse" covers it. This means that the time of day and place will affect the battle and the animations (probably) more than it does in D/P/PL/HG/SS.
lol. The cities look more like cities, w/ buildings actually towering over you.
lol. The cities look more like cities, w/ buildings actually towering over you.
If the Pokemon actually used the moves, Return might actually have competition with Frustration in "coolness." Return looks junky on the DS and Frustration looks decent-semicool. Return is cute on the Wii and Frustration looks awesome! So...actually using Return might give it some coolness factor...or cuteness. Azumarill attacking is always cute. He smacks them and hearts appear or water splashes, then he starts spinning away. It's adorable. Something they might do? I hope so... =T
@Rein: Mew flying wouldn't be THAT weird. What I would be really weirded out by is Smeargle.
@Rein: Mew flying wouldn't be THAT weird. What I would be really weirded out by is Smeargle.
It looks kinda funky how the girl sprite looks like a worker at a fast food chain.
I know. I was just trying to give a few examples.
LOL FLYING PIKACHU!
Without new graphics, the game doesn't feel as new, and a lot of people (as bad a reason as it is) won't by a game with poor graphics. One of my freinds won't stop complaining about it.
Whats even funnier is your kind of right.
Yes, that's what I have in mind. I don't think it would be too difficult to make so this Gen, though. With sprites, at least. We'd need, hmm, 10 sprites per pokémon? I guess so, that's not much.
...Ok, maybe they'd need to hire a few more spriters do to the hard work.
No, they would not do this. They wouldn't care even if that was the case, but it's not. A crash won't require a player to buy a new game, and there are easy workarounds to prevent crashes from even causing the game to soft reset.
And stop feeling sorry for the 3D artists. They get paid more than the programmers.
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