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It reminds me of people wanting nerfs on fighting game characters before the game even releases. It just does nothing and leads to nothing
Bro, that s**t got me steaming every time.

Stop asking for nerfs to grapplers on Betas!!!

As for the current discussion on Tera... Super STAB is somewhat speculated to be x2 like Adaptability.

People overly concerned about that kind of output kinda remind me of how literally every Adaptability user turned out fine. I'm just not really concerned about it.

The types that could really get ugly usually have immunities, with one glaring exception. Fairy.

The balance patch-type might need some adjustments on offense.

Besides that, I'm really not concerned. A lot of mons are dual-typed and their resistances are way too important to pass up.

If you consider it from a VGC perspective, Tera might end up actually underwhelming, and I can't see it being truly broken in Singles.

3v3 formats like the Battle Tower will be suplexed through a table tho. :totodiLUL:
 
my bad

Y'all are chatting about how broken Tera is gonna be, I'm still waiting for all Terastallized Forms to be revealed.
So far, we only got to see Normal, Grass, Fire, Water, Flying, and later Ghost.
Exactly! I want to know what happens if i Terastallize Bellibolt or Klawf, for example.

I'm also curious to see if we end up getting any unique Teras at all - maybe with a dual-typing instead of singular. At this point I'm honestly going to assume no because generational gimmicks seem to be getting more streamlined and universal over time, but at the same time, I wouldn't exactly be shocked if Charizard got its own Fire/Dragon Tera or something silly like that.
I personally would say that there *might* be some unique forms, but it's anyone's guess as to what they do in battle. Exclusive forms/moves for the gimmicks feels like more or less a given at this stage.
 
People overly concerned about that kind of output kinda remind me of how literally every Adaptability user turned out fine.

Counterpoint: Mega Lucario. Arguably it's the reason why Xerneas has historically been dominating in VGC when it's been allowed aswell.

I feel like giving up one STAB for another will see use, but quite situationally when using it on a monotype has no drawbacks at all (unless it does something weird like stack type weaknesses). In a way, I think Dexit might introduce a bit more variation in Terastal usage: people can use a Pokemon with the wrong typing but the right stat spread and a decent movepool, where without Dexit the odds are much greater of there being another Pokemon with the correct typing that can fill that niche. I wonder if we'll see anything like that.
 
For some timezones, SV is going to be released in a month.
What else will be revealed in the next 31/32 days?

If we're talking leaks I feel like most if not all mons have been revealed.

If we aren't talking leaks I feel they will reveal something already leaked.

If they have titanic balls they will reveal the future / past thing that isn't officially leaked but perhaps hinted at via the legend duo.
 
If we're talking leaks I feel like most if not all mons have been revealed.

If we aren't talking leaks I feel they will reveal something already leaked.

If they have titanic balls they will reveal the future / past thing that isn't officially leaked but perhaps hinted at via the legend duo.
I’m talking about official info revealed by GameFreak or TPC
 
For some timezones, SV is going to be released in a month.
What else will be revealed in the next 31/32 days?
At the least the watch party website still mentions a 4th watch party to come, so we'll probably get one more general trailer to look forward to outside of other possible single mon reveals. Based on PLA's final trailer we might see some more NPCs or something neat.
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Well, since last week's trailer subjected us to the most annoying character to date revealed another gym leader, odds are not terrible that they might reveal another team star leader and/or titan. However, analysis of the map found only 5 team star flags, I think, and who knows* how many titans, so it's also entirely possible they won't reveal more about those two stories, since there's less to reveal already.

They might reveal a bit more about Penny? They introduced her but so far haven't linked her to one of the three stories in trailers (maybe the website hints at it?). Nemona is linked to Victory Road, Arven is linked to Path of Legends, so we might surmise Penny is involved in Star Street in some way.

Hopefully they reveal another ghost type or two since Halloween is coming up. :misdreavus:


(*yes, we know people following the leaks know, but since it can't be discussed we'll pretend no one knows)
 
so we might surmise Penny is involved in Star Street in some way.
Penny looks too wimpy and soft to be messing with any kind of gang.

Unless we're looking at another Evice situation. In that case, I hope Penny gets the same psycho smile and hairdo as him. :psysly:

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I'm guessing there's some gameplay feature they'll probably reveal. Probably related to the school, it's such a big thing and we have all those professors there, i doubt it's all set dressing. Seems like an easy thing to include with a last "proper" trailer along side a pokemon.

So basically something tied to the implied Past/Future thing they got going on.
 
So basically something tied to the implied Past/Future thing they got going on.
I mean I was thinking more along the lines of like...taking classes for...things? Something to encourage you to explore more or learn more about the systems. Maybe we get a dorm room we can lightly customize? That feels like a feature they'd like to put in a trailer, especially if it was a photo op with your Pokemon.
 
I do find it odd that it so far seems to be a normal school. Like, too normal of a school. Previous schools in the series taught about stuff like held items and type match-ups, but Jacq teaches... biology.

I agree to some degree but I think Biology makes some sense within the context of Pokémon being a series all about whimsical creatures. So while he doesn't teach the player abt game mechanics, he will probably be relevant for worldbuilding!

Plus, looking back to the Webinar, wild mons have unique interactions. Its possoble he teaches us about those - something like describing how Sandile will swim in sand or how you should be careful approaching Abomasnow since it creates blizzards. Could see Jacq basically being a guide on how some specific Pokémon work in the wild for you to catch them!
 
I agree to some degree but I think Biology makes some sense within the context of Pokémon being a series all about whimsical creatures. So while he doesn't teach the player abt game mechanics, he will probably be relevant for worldbuilding!

Plus, looking back to the Webinar, wild mons have unique interactions. Its possoble he teaches us about those - something like describing how Sandile will swim in sand or how you should be careful approaching Abomasnow since it creates blizzards. Could see Jacq basically being a guide on how some specific Pokémon work in the wild for you to catch them!
Jacq was iirc supposed to be one leading the webinar even.
 
Eh it still gave us a new character, mon and ability to look forward to. I really don't think it being subtitled matters much at all

Also, I heard a theory that, in addition to saving costs & likely not having time to dub, they decided it was alright to simply sub due to, you guessed, the increased popularity of VTubers. While there are English speakers, due to collabs and people just generally interested, many have gotten used to watching clips of the Japanese VTubers which has swathes of loyal fans ready to dub them.

Yes, in-world Iono is a streamer who you physically meet, but her aesthetic is based on VTubers so I don't think it's farfetched of a theory that the Pokemon Company felt okay with just a sub in this specific case. Remember, in addition to the second stream they had a third video of a quick overview of Iono and Bellibolt, they didn't need dub the streams and put them on international channels.

In a row maybe, but you know, that's also how we got Wiglett... actually, they didn't even aknowledge its existance on Eng side for like 3 days ...

Which is odd considering that presentation WAS in English.

Y'all are chatting about how broken Tera is gonna be, I'm still waiting for all Terastallized Forms to be revealed.

I actually think they're gonna keep the rest secret. Like Iono would have been the perfect time to show the Electric-type, but they didn't.

I'm also curious to see if we end up getting any unique Teras at all - maybe with a dual-typing instead of singular. At this point I'm honestly going to assume no because generational gimmicks seem to be getting more streamlined and universal over time, but at the same time, I wouldn't exactly be shocked if Charizard got its own Fire/Dragon Tera or something silly like that.

Yeah, I think if we were going to have unique Teras they would have shown them by now. I'll give them extra credit if something like if do exist and decide to keep it secret, it's not like they didn't have other things to show off with 3 stories.

Exactly! I want to know what happens if i Terastallize Bellibolt or Klawf, for example.

I think they meant in the way of wanting to see what the other Type's crowns looked like, not how certain Pokemon wore the crowns (though Klawf is a question mark there).

Penny looks too wimpy and soft to be messing with any kind of gang.

Do I really need to remind you that appearances can be deceiving? :blobnom: There's also this tidbit:
She has a bit of a shy personality, and for some reason, she doesn’t seem to come to the academy very often.

Now what's one of the things Team Star is known for?
And is she "shy", or simply hiding her "true" identity?

On the topic of a drawback for Terastal, I think it would be interesting if same-type tera didn't change damage against resists

Like say water tera barraskewda deals more damage against hippowdon and zapdos but its damage vs amoonguss and gyarados stay the same as nontera

Interesting idea, having the super mechanic make the Pokemon stronger in normal & advantageous circumstances but still held down by the same same weaknesses the Pokemon had before. Would certainly put a damper on the power creep, or at the very least make the user of the super mechanic more selective (dare I say strategic). When the game comes out and we know how Tera works, could be something worth theorymoning (possibly see if can be implemented as an experimental mod in Showdown?).

I do find it odd that it so far seems to be a normal school. Like, too normal of a school. Previous schools in the series taught about stuff like held items and type match-ups, but Jacq teaches... biology.

So what I'm getting from this is that Jacq has a secret lab where he performs illegal biological experiments (hey, gotta find some way to give us a Type: Null).

Jacq was iirc supposed to be one leading the webinar even.

From what I recall, they checked in with either Jacq or his notes when they came across "Paldean Diglett" and learned that it's infact a completely different Pokemon named Wiglett.
 
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