If we're waiting until release for it to be accurate...why is it in random battles to begin with? It hasn't been released yet so it appearing at all isn't accurate
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Format Discussion Pokemon Sword & Shield Random Battle Sets
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The datamine of DLC2 Pokémon is from the game and is accurate. The HOME datamine are proven to be inaccurate. Regardless, I don’t think it should run Scale Shot even if it were confirmed.
Thoughts on comfey cm giga drain+draining kiss?
Got this Lopunny today (it doesn't show, but it had a Toxic Orb). it's... quirky, to put it mildly. Perhaps it should have Klutz so it doesn't poison itself?
the point is to get toxic'd so facade gets boosted since there isnt any better option as far as normal stab goes for it
To add to what is said above, the only other strong STAB is Mega Kick, which has low accuracy. I much prefer having TO, with the possibility of it badly poisonning an opponent. Healing Wish also happens to just work perfectly with that set.Got this Lopunny today (it doesn't show, but it had a Toxic Orb). it's... quirky, to put it mildly. Perhaps it should have Klutz so it doesn't poison itself?
couldn’t get a screenshot but i got an azu set without perish song,i think this mon should always have this move cause without it’s pretty useless vs a lot of things
Reckless + Leftovers and Curse/Close Combat (I think from Unburden + White Herb) crossed. And then Hurricane hit, I got confused, and hit myself in the face
CC and HJK being on the same set together makes 0 sense to me and i think this should be changedView attachment 270536
Reckless + Leftovers and Curse/Close Combat (I think from Unburden + White Herb) crossed. And then Hurricane hit, I got confused, and hit myself in the face
25% is not a very nice amount of health for a pokemon that has tons of weaknesses IMO
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That status heal though.
can help preventing burn, also the 25 heal can be used to have some form of recovery from lo damage (if it runs lo)
Zarude's many weaknesses are unfortunate but 105/105/95 bulk is fantastic and after a few bulk ups it can eat up (some) super effective hits and heal back more than it takes.
The status heal gives it a tool to go toe-to-toe with passive mons like toxapex/mandibuzz/corsola-g which rely on status to beat it.
Case in point: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8randombattle-1173311290-qww5kg4rshat5j0f20oj5ssan9r70jypw
I ended up losing zarude to pexs toxic/baneful bunker which the jungle healing sets would deal with easily.
The status heal gives it a tool to go toe-to-toe with passive mons like toxapex/mandibuzz/corsola-g which rely on status to beat it.
Case in point: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8randombattle-1173311290-qww5kg4rshat5j0f20oj5ssan9r70jypw
I ended up losing zarude to pexs toxic/baneful bunker which the jungle healing sets would deal with easily.
I think it is pretty obvious the problem here.
On note Earth Power seems like a much better option than Earthquake on Abomasnow since most Poison and Steel types are physically bulky and Poltergeist Froslass would definitely be a big damage boost compared to Shadow Ball, Triple Axel doesn't seem necessary at all but Poltergeist is a must.
If that is gen5 yes, we have a whole list of stuff to fix, but probably that will happen after the DLC stuff has been correctly sorted and working
Just noticed rayquaza doesn’t have dragon ascent in its movepool and i think it should, most of the legends had their sigs added back in and i think rayquaza should get it especially since it‘s a strong flying stab that would work well on all of its sets
Legendary sig moves learned by level have been added on the asumption that since other signature moves came back on the first DLC, the pokemon of the next one will have theirs aswell. But we dont have confirmation of tutor sig moves like this to come back in gen 8, thats why it hasnt been discussed as a possibility as of right now.
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I understand
Also Dragon Ascent would allow it to Mega Evolve unless we added the Mega Rayquaza Clause from Gen 7 Ubers. Sounds too messy; better to wait and see what happens with DLC2.
We are aware of those old formar issues, but remember that this thread is for SwSh sets, and when the DLC and DLC 2 stuff calms down we are gonna tackle more properly said old Gen set problems. Disregarding that, thanks for reporting, gen5 is the most wonky one as of right now. If u want to play old gens with better set generation, we recently updated gen3 and we consider 1, 4, 6 and 7 are working fine until we can check em properly.
Scale Shot Haxorus is bad. Scale Shot's average damage is less than .67x that of Outrage, I believe ~72. The speed boost is useful, ofc, but it leaves you more vulnerable to physical attacks. The two advantages are: it's easier to SD, since you'll get a speed boost, and you can run LO instead of Lum Berry since you won't get confused. I don't think this is worth it due to Scale Shot's inconsistency compared to Outrage (not to mention LO recoil compounding your decreased physical bulk).
Outrage could leave you vulnerable to fairies depending on when you clicked it, but I still think it was better than Scale Shot due to its immediate power. Scale Shot's average damage does (barely) exceed Outrage if you compare +1 Outrage to +2 LO Scale Shot, which is a possible scenario, but Outrage could also function with Swords Dance. And given Haxorus's already tremendous power, I don't think the possibility of getting a 100 or 125 BP Scale Shot for increased power is worth the relatively high chance (1/3) of getting a 50 BP scale shot and failing to kill your opponent then getting killed yourself. Outrage at +1 killed most neutral targets anyway.
Outrage certainly has its own drawbacks (Lum Berry, locked into a move), but it's superior to Scale Shot. Especially on Dragon Dance variants.
Edit: And ofc, bringing back Outrage would also mean bringing back Dragon Dance.
Outrage could leave you vulnerable to fairies depending on when you clicked it, but I still think it was better than Scale Shot due to its immediate power. Scale Shot's average damage does (barely) exceed Outrage if you compare +1 Outrage to +2 LO Scale Shot, which is a possible scenario, but Outrage could also function with Swords Dance. And given Haxorus's already tremendous power, I don't think the possibility of getting a 100 or 125 BP Scale Shot for increased power is worth the relatively high chance (1/3) of getting a 50 BP scale shot and failing to kill your opponent then getting killed yourself. Outrage at +1 killed most neutral targets anyway.
Outrage certainly has its own drawbacks (Lum Berry, locked into a move), but it's superior to Scale Shot. Especially on Dragon Dance variants.
Edit: And ofc, bringing back Outrage would also mean bringing back Dragon Dance.
Hmm what about volcarona with psyquic as the ol times?, it should fit perfectly to beat certain poison types. Also one good addition would be meteor beam on certain mons like necrozma, jirachi and mew combined with cm or nasty plot in case of mew would be devasting
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