screw it, piracy is the answer to everything
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I'll frontload this by saying that it's not strictly the concept of a digital storefront existing that is the issue, so much as 'digital only' advocates and devs seem to use that as an excuse to phase out the physical market. And before you say again 'muh FTC' - try to remember that representatives don't represent you, and that those in the commission are generally a part of the revolving door of political lobbyists.
A lot of us what physical cartridges out of respect for what this industry was. And yes, I'm an unironic pirate because projects like hShop actually have half a clue what preservation actually entails.
I'll leave you with this (and say what you will about Mr Enter's 'muh red pandas and twin towers', I think that interpretation is somewhat of a lie agreed upon, but I'll leave that for another time):
I'm not gonna watch this video, I've been deep in this gaming discourse for like 5 years. I'm not against piracy in any form, I see that as a digital gaming W.
Devs don't care about digital because see the kinds of things indies can do. No manufacturing cost. Release date two weeks before the game releases. There's no such thing as a" day one patch", it's just the day one game, you can just release it when it's done.
My only real critique of the digital age is digital games should be cheaper, but that is actually because most retailers don't want to ship games if digital games get an advantage. ie. if the game is $50 digitally on launch and $70 in store, Gamestop will throw a fit.
I don't dislike physical media being an option, I'll never dislike options, I just think people are wayyy over exaggerating all of this.
people aren't so much annoyed with owning physical PC games (because it's impractical, and even with sites like GOG their selection isn't great for most people); PC will always have alternative markets (importantly including the black market; steam is the market, sure, but far from the only one) which means most of the issues caused by digital licencing (not owning your game, having your licence swiped) self-regulate. consoles have a whole two games markets (physical and digital), meaning the phasing out of discs grants complete power to digital markets to do basically whatever the fuck they want in full knowledge that competition authorities are slow solvers in a fast moving market (thus practically powerless). people also don't enjoy having stuff taken away from them just to be sold back at one hundred fucking pounds (yes this is the actual cost of a ps5 slim disc drive on argos) in addition to a move to digital being objectively worse for the consumer; not only do you simply "lose an option", but you can't resell old games to get a bit of money back, can't benefit from physical media being cosmically cheaper than digital, and you have to deal with issues like EA straight up removing licences on some EA play accounts (that they haven't, as far as i can tell, even got a slap on the wrist for).
Edit: I think I wrote a really poor post so I'm basically deleting it in this edit lol.
I still have some disagreements but Tea makes some good points, and I think I was talking too hard about the idea of taking down games from store, which is my primary disagreement with arguments against digital.
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Tangentially related but I seem to remember that many years back there was a news story floating around about a guy who discovered a critical security vulnerability in Youtube that, if he had exploited it, would've allowed him to delete every video on the entire platform. Thankfully he instead alerted Google to the problem and was even financially compensated for doing so.
Now, truth be told, I don't know for certain that this actually happened. I tried to find the story some time ago and turned up nothing. Maybe the severity of the vulnerability was exaggerated. Maybe it was a hoax. Maybe I even dreamed it, who knows. But if this really did happen, then it's one hell of a harrowing near-miss. Chinese or North Korean operatives, a vengeful ex-employee, even just some shmuck who wanted to watch the world burn, there's no shortage of bad actors who could've done cataclysmic damage if they weren't beaten to the punch. Who knows what the Internet would look like today if someone pounced.
Now, truth be told, I don't know for certain that this actually happened. I tried to find the story some time ago and turned up nothing. Maybe the severity of the vulnerability was exaggerated. Maybe it was a hoax. Maybe I even dreamed it, who knows. But if this really did happen, then it's one hell of a harrowing near-miss. Chinese or North Korean operatives, a vengeful ex-employee, even just some shmuck who wanted to watch the world burn, there's no shortage of bad actors who could've done cataclysmic damage if they weren't beaten to the punch. Who knows what the Internet would look like today if someone pounced.
not once did i claim steam has competition. "steam has alternatives" doesn't need to imply that these alternatives are any good, but if steam started ripping you off then there's absolutely other places to go on a pc; not so much if microsoft is ripping you off on your microsoft-locked console with no way to buy things not sold by microsoft.
i'm just going to be honest, these have not much to do with anything i said. digital and physical co-exist but don't necessarily have to compete; there simply being two markets, one of which is bogged down by the real world and contracts rather than potentially a single keyboard, in addition to a kind-of tertiary market that basically doesn't give a toss about what the big company wants, largely stops price abuse from happening. discs going wipe two of those out.
i also never claimed that physical was somehow holding back charging $80 for a game, because claiming so would make fuck all sense? your own price parity argument removes this (physical stopping a price rise) as a possibility anyway; microsoft just gets the retailers to charge $80 and nothing changes other than people getting angrier about price rises (which is almost entirely unrelated except that second-hand games get even more attractive given digital storefronts' tendency to not adjust prices "properly"with time).
i genuinely don't know what you're saying here. if you just so happen to start checking out a game when it's on sale and then go to a second-hand shop when it isn't on sale, and the prices aren't very different, no shit you're not seeing value in the second-hand shop and conclude it's not better. games are almost always not on offer (playstation games particularly), so in that almost-always time, second-hand shops are the better deal both in immediate financial cost and resale down the line. i looked at a few examples (uk, so mileage may vary, and bear in mind CeX and eBay aren't even thought of that highly in terms of bargains):
- God of War Ragnorok PS5 - £43.39 (on offer, usually £70) on PS store, £38 in CeX, ~£30 eBay
- Demon's Souls PS5 - £70 on PS store, £25 in CeX, ~£23 eBay
- Pokemon SV (disgusting) - £50 on EShop, £38 in CeX, £25 on eBay (admittedly i didn't spend much time on eBay here due to 80% of listing being individual mon sales, but both were at £25 within the first 5 of the first page)
- Elden Ring - £50 in PS store / Microsoft store, £35 Xbox £40 PS5 CeX, £25 eBay
ok... and? i'm not disagreeing with you, but i also don't understand how this can be used as an excuse to downplay actual theft.
"sold back to you" never meant someone booting your door in, taking your disc drive, and then charging money for you to have it back. it's companies taking stuff off of the thing they sell to you initially (quite literally charging more for less thing) and then charging you again to end up with the same amount of thing as before. these are nothing more than financial transactions yet feel nothing less than a slap in the face from fat pricks in chairs; the entire argument is that it's a dick move even if they are allowed to do it.
put simply, people like having stuff. pixels on a screen saying you're entitled to use some software is not having stuff. companies want to keep moving towards that way because they're greedy bastards, so the fear (in context to physical) has never been "they'll take stuff away" but rather "they'll stop giving us the stuff". especially in an area like digital licences, which frankly nobody understands and are drowning in small print, it's understandable that people don't like corporate twats with fat pockets essentially being in complete and utter control of what they're allowed to play/own; "they'll take stuff away" may, and in many peoples' minds does, apply here.
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God that comments section is a time capsule lol. People jokingly asking OP to delete Smosh and shit
Also wow he was not compensated anywhere near enough. Man's payout should've AT LEAST been a 7 digit number. The internet's Stanislav Petrov
hawk tuah girl is a top 5 most attractive celebrity of all time. no question
I edited my post to say it sucked like an hour before you replied so forgive me for not really engaging this
PC gaming has been fully digital for far longer than 15 years. They were digital pretty much since floppy disks were being phased out. When you put a CD into your laptop or desktop or whatever, you can (and generally should) download it to your hard drive because it's just better to have it there for performance reasons (an HDD could run 10 times faster than a CD could). Old-timey physical PC games were always just a physical, reusable installation.
Consoles function completely differently. Their games are optimized specifically for the console, to the point there is nearly zero performance difference between using a physical disk and having the installed games. The difference being that one physical CD rack can store about as many games as your entire console without an external drive, and a reasonably-sized shelf could store the same amount of games as you would otherwise need to uninstall a game from your library, not to mention it takes far less time to put a disk into a slot and wait about 5 seconds for it to load than it takes to uninstall a 10 gigabyte game and install a different 10 gigabyte game, which can also be limited by your internet speeds.
TL:DR pc has never had a reason to have a physical library while consoles have a legitimate trade-off.
Edit: ran some numbers and the average PS5 can only store 20-30 AAA games which just further proves my point that it's generally better to store console games on physical CD's lol
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Oh good that he didn’t. I only became a Smosh fan about a year and a half or so ago and I quite enjoy it.
I don't care for Nardwuar's style of interviewing. The way that he bombards the interviewee with extensive knowledge of their personal life, from my admittedly limited observation, tends to lead to stuttering and shallow responses that don't reveal much about the interviewee beyond the context for whatever he's presenting them with. I much prefer more structured interviews where the interviewee is asked more insightful questions that extend beyond merely shocking them with depth of research (see: Sean Evans).
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rmt threads as a whole are largely cringe
the idea of a thread to post teams and get feedback is great but then 80% of it is:
-name team after a song/album (bonus points if nicknames are individual track names or lyrics)
-ping like 20 people at the end
-never actually look for feedback, just post it to get likes
ive seen ppl make rmts for a format that like literally < 10 people play (not an exaggeration) and ping like 20 people
the idea of a thread to post teams and get feedback is great but then 80% of it is:
-name team after a song/album (bonus points if nicknames are individual track names or lyrics)
-ping like 20 people at the end
-never actually look for feedback, just post it to get likes
ive seen ppl make rmts for a format that like literally < 10 people play (not an exaggeration) and ping like 20 people
that feels like less of a problem of the concept of rmt threads and moreso how people use them in practice
well yea, i actually like the idea of the thread im just #noticing that its more used as a social likefarm
I mean, if something has to be bloody or sexually explicit to be "for adults," then I guess there's a lot of anime that isn't for adults. That seems like a pretty myopic way to evaluate who a piece of media is for, though. I'm also not a fan of preempting pushback to your take by saying that you expect "rage artillery from the weeb army." I'm not even an anime fan, and I feel kind of personally offended by that.
Well, this IS the searing hot takes spread. And also, by anime for adults it does not mean it has to be bloody violent or sexually explicit. Anime for adults means the type of anime that only adults can understand. ie Vinland Saga or Berserk. Those are anime for adults. But well, they are so rare and less in number, they are like one drop of difference in an ocean of the same.
Edit: I have seemed to make a severe lapse in my judgement
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This is a false dichotomy, though. Plenty of media is accessible to children while still being appreciable on a deeper level by adults with more life experience. Something need not be understandable only by adults to be for adults.
Bro, you already won. I deleted my post i am sorry frfr my opinion is legit inconsiderate
It's not about winning or losing in this thread. You had a hot take and posted here, and that's great!
And if someone replied, you do indeed have a hot take. It's pretty courageous to post it.
I think hot takes are cool, but for the videos, what I like more about them is the reply or the discussion that follows. If everyone is being civil about it, it's either an explanation of why the opinion is unpopular, or it gives a new perspective. You can also weed out the biases or clarify your opinion through this exercise.
What adjectivenoun replied is what I think, but I can see that not all Anime falls under that, and perhaps compared to other forms of media, Anime is made for younger audiences.
And if someone replied, you do indeed have a hot take. It's pretty courageous to post it.
I think hot takes are cool, but for the videos, what I like more about them is the reply or the discussion that follows. If everyone is being civil about it, it's either an explanation of why the opinion is unpopular, or it gives a new perspective. You can also weed out the biases or clarify your opinion through this exercise.
What adjectivenoun replied is what I think, but I can see that not all Anime falls under that, and perhaps compared to other forms of media, Anime is made for younger audiences.
lugia’s a fraud and is hard carried by ho-oh’s all-around supremacy as a box legendary.
you have the towers and the legendary beasts and how ho-oh searches for a pure-hearted trainer and that finding it is said to bring happiness. a solid story befitting a box legendary. and what does lugia do?
sits in a cave underwater because it cant control its own power. what a bum
you have the towers and the legendary beasts and how ho-oh searches for a pure-hearted trainer and that finding it is said to bring happiness. a solid story befitting a box legendary. and what does lugia do?
sits in a cave underwater because it cant control its own power. what a bum
Christopher Nolan is extremely overrated
He overcomplicates simple plots through non-sensical dialogue and through forcing non-linear narratives when they aren't needed. When you look through the overcomplications and through (admittedly) cool visuals of his movies, his work becomes rather bland movies with flat characters, films that lack emotions and don't really say anything. He also LOVES overusing music to dictate the emotions of a scene because he seems not confident enough in cinematography, acting and writing to convey to the viewers how a scene feels
I like The Dark Knight, parts of Interstellar, The Dark Knight Rises and Oppenheimer. I haven't watched Dunkirk. The rest I really, really don't like. Mostly because I hate it when writers try hiding from criticisms through complicated plots, I find it very insincere, incompetent and frustrating
He overcomplicates simple plots through non-sensical dialogue and through forcing non-linear narratives when they aren't needed. When you look through the overcomplications and through (admittedly) cool visuals of his movies, his work becomes rather bland movies with flat characters, films that lack emotions and don't really say anything. He also LOVES overusing music to dictate the emotions of a scene because he seems not confident enough in cinematography, acting and writing to convey to the viewers how a scene feels
I like The Dark Knight, parts of Interstellar, The Dark Knight Rises and Oppenheimer. I haven't watched Dunkirk. The rest I really, really don't like. Mostly because I hate it when writers try hiding from criticisms through complicated plots, I find it very insincere, incompetent and frustrating