As far as Smogon is concerned so long as the move is available to use somehow in that generation they don't really care. Otherwise SWSH's meta would, I imagine, have been very different.
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SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics
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Assuming the rumours are true, why do I get this nasty feeling that HOME doesn't let me transfer a mon; it just lets me transfer the right to use a mon in my copy of the game? Alright, transferring the mon with the desired ability, IVs, EVs, and maybe form is pretty nice, but being unable to transfer the mon with the desired moves does feel like my mon loses some of its unique identity.
Also, Khu's "Move tailor" does sound like part of his quasi-PkHex. What restrictions will be on it (besides the quite likely one that you probably can't change your mon's species)?
Also, Khu's "Move tailor" does sound like part of his quasi-PkHex. What restrictions will be on it (besides the quite likely one that you probably can't change your mon's species)?
“End of June” lines up all too well with the release cadence of the 7-Star Starter raids, of which there are presumably two more (Rillaboom and Delphox). The rerun of whichever one of those comes second would fall on June 16 - 18.
(Though if they had things planned out that well, I don’t see why they couldn’t just give us a concrete release date.)
It's possible we get both this month. They did weirdly do 3 last month. That could align with an early june release.
Possible that plans changed at some point?
I like how we just assume Charizard status to the point the other Kanto Starters won't happen like the other non-Hisui Trios
Venusaur & Blastoise aren't in the code, so it's not an assumption it's just how it is.
But this still means many pokemon are forever nerfed, like toxic and certain tutor moves which is very annoying for people who spend hours transfering gen 1 to 3 only moves.
These pokemon have been "nerfed" in official competitive format for last 4 generations, since gen 6 you are not allowed to use transfer moves in competitive.
Smogon allowed them for reasons, but there's no "nerfing" going on, this has been going for almost 10 years.
(Ask how many people on OU know that Weavile actually lost Knock Off last gen and not this one, and that Lando-T lost both Knock Off, Toxic and Defog last gen already)
Talking more so with casual play with friends rather than competitive play. Obviously you can't use gen 3 because no regional sticker.
The difference from how Gen 4 and other additions handle it is that the new locations in Platinum and HGSS use additional index numbers, whereas the SWSH and PLA met locations both start from 0 and overlap their index numbers, so if HOME didn't do its replacement then SWSH would probably display the SWSH location in the same index number instead, though I don't know for sure what does appear if you bring in a mon from an origin game ID that SWSH doesn't recognize.
See I'd figure it would see an origin it doesnt recognize, then just default it to no mark + Faraway Place. Basically, error handling in the event Something happened
Is interesting to see them just refresh the entire list, though. Seems like Let's Go did the same thing...I imagine BDSP did too (bulbapedia strangely doesnt have that listed). Guess it's just what they do now.
So where did the Home information come from?
I think he has had exclusive Home info before, at least.
He probably does have some form of source after spending so long in the leaking game. He’s got the best platform for it IMO so I would imagine by now there is someone out there who has HOME info and passes it along to him.
Anything related to actual games that he claims are his are either bullshit or he’s got them from another leaker.
mourning, you meant celebrating right
no i like my toys!! really i hardly see a point of bringing old guys forward if i cant even like use them as an egg move source. redoing work every gen is a pain. hardly seems worth torching everything because you're mad you made toxic universal for 20 years
I mostly understand but honestly the changes to egg moves in gen 9 alleviate a lot of pain.
Now
TMs
that's significantly more annoying since you have to run around getting the resources to make the damn things.
Ah....
So yeah it's absolutely not going to work like people are hoping it will work like huh
Honestly as it is right now it seems like even Khu himself is unsure with how it will work. We'll really just have to wait and see, but at this point I'm not expecting too much if anything to come out of transfer moves from the latest trends like removing Endeavor from the Pichu event rerelease.
So if I'm reading it right, I think Pokemon will be able to be transfered with exclusive moves from one game into another? I.e. Gardevoir can get Recover in Legends Arceus and be transferred over to Scarlet / Violet, but can't use Sword and Shield exclusive moves like Expanding Force or Triple Axel with Recover. If this is the case, I think the move transfer restriction will be great. Simultaneously lets most Pokemon keep some really cool moves they got from prior games (i.e. Roost Scizor from BDSP) while also toning down the distribution of some OP spammable moves like Toxic and Knock Off, which I think is more than fine.