the dragon dance set then is kinda the hype t-tar got 4th gen, before everyone saw the cb was just so much easier to use.
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If it does show the effectiveness of the set you are using, you may do so, however not recommended because tiering is not done yet.
If you ARE posting the log, put them in code tags, since this is not warstory.
I think it does, because it(imo) shows how bulky a drain punch+bulk up zuruzukin can be. I'll post it after I'm done putzing around in ICC.
Code:
Remilia Scarlet sent out Fluffia! (Erufuun)
TH sent out Spike! (Terakion)
Start of turn 1
The foe's Fluffia used Substitute!
The foe's Fluffia made a substitute!
Spike used Swords Dance!
Spike's Attack sharply rose!
The foe's Fluffia restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 2
The foe's Fluffia used Encore!
Spike received an encore!
Spike used Swords Dance!
Spike's Attack sharply rose!
The foe's Fluffia restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 3
The foe's Fluffia used Leech Seed!
Spike was seeded!
Spike used Swords Dance!
Spike's Attack sharply rose!
Spike's health is sapped by leech seed.
Start of turn 4
The foe's Fluffia used Taunt!
Spike fell for the taunt!
Spike can't use Swords Dance after the taunt!
Spike's health is sapped by leech seed.
Spike's Encore ended!
Start of turn 5
The foe's Fluffia used Encore!
But it failed!
Spike used Close Combat!
The foe's Fluffia's substitute faded!
Spike's Defense fell!
Spike's Sp. Def. fell!
Spike's health is sapped by leech seed.
Start of turn 6
Remilia Scarlet called Fluffia back!
Remilia Scarlet sent out Halloween X! (Shanderaa)
Spike used Close Combat!
It had no effect!
Spike's health is sapped by leech seed.
Spike's taunt ended!
Start of turn 7
Spike used Earthquake!
It's super effective!
The foe's Halloween X lost 100% of its health!
The foe's Halloween X fainted!
Remilia Scarlet sent out Fluffia! (Erufuun)
Start of turn 8
The foe's Fluffia used Substitute!
The foe's Fluffia made a substitute!
Spike used Earthquake!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Fluffia's substitute faded!
Spike's health is sapped by leech seed.
The foe's Fluffia restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 9
The foe's Fluffia used Encore!
Spike received an encore!
Spike used Earthquake!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Fluffia lost 93% of its health!
The foe's Fluffia fainted!
Spike fainted!
Remilia Scarlet sent out Flandre! (Blaziken)
TH sent out Zuggo! (Zuruzukin)
Start of turn 10
The foe's Flandre used Swords Dance!
The foe's Flandre's Attack sharply rose!
Zuggo used Zen Headbutt!
It's super effective!
The foe's Flandre lost 66% of its health!
The foe's Flandre's Speed Boost increases its speed!
The foe's Flandre's Speed rose!
Start of turn 11
TH called Zuggo back!
TH sent out Samson! (Roopushin)
The foe's Flandre used Hi Jump Kick!
Samson lost 404 HP! (100% of its health)
Samson fainted!
The foe's Flandre's Speed Boost increases its speed!
The foe's Flandre's Speed rose!
TH sent out Murmello! (Gallade)
Start of turn 12
The foe's Flandre used Blaze Kick!
Murmello lost 277 HP! (100% of its health)
Murmello fainted!
The foe's Flandre's Speed Boost increases its speed!
The foe's Flandre's Speed rose!
TH sent out Gokazaru! (Infernape)
Start of turn 13
The foe's Flandre used Hi Jump Kick!
Gokazaru lost 293 HP! (100% of its health)
Gokazaru fainted!
The foe's Flandre's Speed Boost increases its speed!
The foe's Flandre's Speed rose!
TH sent out Horus! (Blaziken)
Start of turn 14
The foe's Flandre used Stone Edge!
Horus lost 301 HP! (100% of its health)
Horus fainted!
The foe's Flandre fainted!
Remilia Scarlet sent out Porygon2!
TH sent out Zuggo! (Zuruzukin)
Start of turn 15
The foe's Porygon2 used Thunder Wave!
Zuggo is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!
Zuggo used Drain Punch!
It's super effective!
The foe's Porygon2 lost 32% of its health!
The foe's Porygon2 had its energy drained!
Start of turn 16
The foe's Porygon2 used Thunderbolt!
Zuggo lost 69 HP! (22% of its health)
Zuggo used Drain Punch!
It's super effective!
The foe's Porygon2 lost 29% of its health!
The foe's Porygon2 had its energy drained!
Zuggo restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 17
The foe's Porygon2 used Recover!
The foe's Porygon2 regained health!
Zuggo is paralyzed! It can't move!
Start of turn 18
The foe's Porygon2 used Thunderbolt!
Zuggo lost 68 HP! (22% of its health)
Zuggo used Bulk Up!
Zuggo's Attack rose!
Zuggo's Defense rose!
Zuggo restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 19
The foe's Porygon2 used Ice Beam!
Zuggo lost 67 HP! (22% of its health)
Zuggo used Bulk Up!
Zuggo's Attack rose!
Zuggo's Defense rose!
Zuggo restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 20
The foe's Porygon2 used Ice Beam!
Zuggo lost 67 HP! (22% of its health)
Zuggo is paralyzed! It can't move!
Zuggo restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 21
The foe's Porygon2 used Ice Beam!
Zuggo lost 63 HP! (20% of its health)
Zuggo used Drain Punch!
It's super effective!
The foe's Porygon2 lost 67% of its health!
The foe's Porygon2 had its energy drained!
Zuggo restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 22
The foe's Porygon2 used Recover!
The foe's Porygon2 regained health!
Zuggo used Drain Punch!
It's super effective!
The foe's Porygon2 lost 59% of its health!
The foe's Porygon2 had its energy drained!
Start of turn 23
The foe's Porygon2 used Recover!
The foe's Porygon2 regained health!
Zuggo used Bulk Up!
Zuggo's Attack rose!
Zuggo's Defense rose!
Start of turn 24
The foe's Porygon2 used Recover!
The foe's Porygon2 regained health!
Zuggo used Drain Punch!
It's super effective!
The foe's Porygon2 lost 78% of its health!
The foe's Porygon2 had its energy drained!
Start of turn 25
The foe's Porygon2 used Recover!
The foe's Porygon2 regained health!
Zuggo used Drain Punch!
It's super effective!
The foe's Porygon2 lost 71% of its health!
Zuggo's Attack rose!
The foe's Porygon2 had its energy drained!
The foe's Porygon2 fainted!
Remilia Scarlet sent out YinYangBreak! (Kyuremu)
The foe's YinYangBreak is exerting its Pressure!
Start of turn 26
The foe's YinYangBreak used Dragon Claw!
Zuggo lost 55 HP! (18% of its health)
Zuggo is paralyzed! It can't move!
Zuggo restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 27
The foe's YinYangBreak used Claw Sharpen!
The foe's YinYangBreak's Attack rose!
The foe's YinYangBreak's Accuracy rose!
Zuggo used Drain Punch!
It's super effective!
The foe's YinYangBreak lost 90% of its health!
Zuggo's Attack rose!
The foe's YinYangBreak had its energy drained!
The foe's YinYangBreak fainted!
Edited~
I don't mean to sound harsh but I don't think that was particularly representative of Zuzurukin's abilities given the amount of boosts you had - thanks to a great set up courtesy of Porygon2 who focused on healing than attacking after surprisingly being unable to really create a huge dent on Zuruzukin with his Special Attacks. It was shocking to see him tank special hits quite well. Though its no surprise you were able to KO Kyuremu in one hit - who couldn't really dent a +3 bulk up Zuruzukin. Also it would have been more interesting to see him tear up on something his move was neutral against or resisted or perhaps something much bulkier.
In that other than seeing Zuzurukin able to take special hits well enough we didn't really get to see him use his physical defense - a great way to look into that would have been facing off Blaziken who was boosting himself a lot with sword dance - as his last two opponents really weren't physical based. Though his ability to take special hits is definitely something - I just wonder what the EVs of that Porygon 2 was. Though that Porygon 2 most likely ran:
Porygon2 @ Pre-Evolution Stone
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Ability: Analyze
Nature: Bold
~ Recover
~ Thunderbolt
~ Ice Beam
~ Thunder-Wave / Toxic
Still given Porygon2's 105 base SpA that is still impressive.
Perhaps this means it might be much easier to set up a Zuruzukin than imagined since its not just physical hits he can take but special hits as well - and he was able to take on a boltbeam.
I don't mean to sound harsh but I don't think that was particularly representative of Zuzurukin's abilities given the amount of boosts you had - thanks to a great set up courtesy of Porygon2 who focused on healing than attacking after surprisingly being unable to really create a huge dent on Zuruzukin with his Special Attacks. It was shocking to see him tank special hits quite well. Though its no surprise you were able to KO Kyuremu in one hit - who couldn't really dent a +3 bulk up Zuruzukin. Also it would have been more interesting to see him tear up on something his move was neutral against or resisted or perhaps something much bulkier.
In that other than seeing Zuzurukin able to take special hits well enough we didn't really get to see him use his physical defense - a great way to look into that would have been facing off Blaziken who was boosting himself a lot with sword dance - as his last two opponents really weren't physical based. Though his ability to take special hits is definitely something - I just wonder what the EVs of that Porygon 2 was. Though that Porygon 2 most likely ran:
Porygon2 @ Pre-Evolution Stone
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Ability: Analyze
Nature: Bold
~ Recover
~ Thunderbolt
~ Ice Beam
~ Thunder-Wave / Toxic
Still given Porygon2's 105 base SpA that is still impressive.
Perhaps this means it might be much easier to set up a Zuruzukin than imagined since its not just physical hits he can take but special hits as well - and he was able to take on a boltbeam.
Zuruzukin was paralyzed. I don't think I have anything that can paralyze on my team.
The main thing I saw was that with a little bit of set-up(which is completely plausible due to Zuruzkin's bulk) he can basically lay into things with drain punch and keep himself completely alive.
He also took barely any damage(albeit, he had bulk ups when he ate Kyuremu's dragon claw), but the thunderbolts also barely hurt him/he healed them off with drain punch.
I'm actually at fault with that blaziken, but I have a feeling that a +2 195 power HJK would completely break zuruzkin regardless of what I could do.
I run a careful Zuruzkin atm, I'll see what'll happen if I run a +def nature and eat some fighting attacks.
I don't know if these means anything, but I was watching a battle on Youtube and a +1 Uragamosu's Bug Buzz couldn't OHKO the opponents Zuruzukin (80~90% damage). I'm not sure what the EV invest of either one was, or what the nature was, but if the sets weren't some extreme deviants (+SpD 252/252 HP/SpD or something ridiculous) that's a pretty decent feat. Unfortunately, the opponent used Bulk Up instead of attacking so I'm not sure how much damage Zuru could retaliate with. I wonder how much Rock Slide would do...
He seems to be a bit bulkier than people imagine.
He seems to be a bit bulkier than people imagine.
People really are underestimating its bulk. Seriously, it has higher defenses than Rotom-A.
I've been using a custom bulky set with DD to kinda imitate Kingdra and it's been working quite well! Can definitely take two or more hits and that's enough for it to setup two DDs and start Drain Punching stuff so it's back to good health.
I've been using a custom bulky set with DD to kinda imitate Kingdra and it's been working quite well! Can definitely take two or more hits and that's enough for it to setup two DDs and start Drain Punching stuff so it's back to good health.
intimidate + substitute + full HP EVs = a pretty good chance to get 2 Dragon Dances in to outpace a lot of things, before finishing with Drain Punch to keep you healthy and your opponent dead. just make sure Heracross is gone before you do
@ryanide: by the way, if you won't be able to finish the zuru.gif, think you could spoil for us what you were planning for him to do? just curious :P
and is your weavile using Low Kick in that gif?
and is your weavile using Low Kick in that gif?
I agree with the first part...but what does herp derp mean?
It have some bulkness, an acceptable attack stat, awesome abilities and enough movepool, allowing it to use many different sets, but IMO its type combination isn´t too good defensively when compared with other fighting types and some dark types.
offensively fighting/dark is very impressive coverage and defensively it only has 1 common weakness, this guy is just fine.
ps. Green Thunder, know your memes :nerd:
ps. Green Thunder, know your memes :nerd:
Weaknesses isn`t the only thing to considerate, resistances to some typical attacks like EQ and Surf can be useful too, or perhaps having some resistances of the Steel type, and being it a slow Pokémon IMO the resistances can be even more important, i´m not saying that it have bad typing, i´m only saying that IMO other fighting types have better defensive typing combinations.
You do have a point, looking at the typing again it has only 3 resists; ghost, rock and dark :(
I suppose this is what makes Lucario/Breloom so easy to switch in.
edit: I forgot the immunity to Psychic, but that's a given, right?
I suppose this is what makes Lucario/Breloom so easy to switch in.
edit: I forgot the immunity to Psychic, but that's a given, right?
Steel, don't forget steel.
uh being a fighting/dark type it takes neutral damage from steel.
That does not make an ounce of sense, but I stand corrected. Why would dark take away the Steel resist? It makes no sense! Dark isn't weak to steel. Fighting resists it. What the eff, Gamefreak?
F it I'm done trying to make sense of this.
Fighting never resisted Steel in Gen IV, so, it has always made sense...
While Priority moves could be a problem, an offensive set like this could work:
DD Zuru@ Leftovers/Life Orb
Jolly/Adamant
Overconfidence
252 Atk/4 HP/252 Speed
Dragon Dance
Crunch
High Jump Kick
Dragon Tail/Fire Punch
Dragon Dance and that beautiful Fighting/Dark dual stab. Fire Punch can hurt Steels like Skarmory and the like, but Dragon Tail is my preference because of its ability to remove problems that Zuru can't deal with. His bulk should help with set-up and surviving priority.
DD Zuru@ Leftovers/Life Orb
Jolly/Adamant
Overconfidence
252 Atk/4 HP/252 Speed
Dragon Dance
Crunch
High Jump Kick
Dragon Tail/Fire Punch
Dragon Dance and that beautiful Fighting/Dark dual stab. Fire Punch can hurt Steels like Skarmory and the like, but Dragon Tail is my preference because of its ability to remove problems that Zuru can't deal with. His bulk should help with set-up and surviving priority.