Honestly, this thing is going to be walled by Ghost Types, so we should probably give it Odor Sleuth or Foresight to alleviate the problem.
Horses aren't exactly known for ghostbusting (ever notice how the hit movie Ghostbusters stars no horses?), so I think this deficiency is in line with our concept.Honestly, this thing is going to be walled by Ghost Types, so we should probably give it Odor Sleuth or Foresight to alleviate the problem.
I don't think we should give it Foresight or Odor Sleuth. Basically we want a broken normal horse.Horses aren't exactly known for ghostbusting (ever notice how the hit movie Ghostbusters stars no horses?), so I think this deficiency is in line with our concept.
keep your posts on topic xox
I know it's gonna be walled by Ghost-types but... It's a NORMAL horse. It's a necessary drawback I guess.I don't think we should give it Foresight or Odor Sleuth. Basically we want a broken normal horse.
If we give it Toxic, it means it can badly poison Toxapex right?I know it's gonna be walled by Ghost-types but... It's a NORMAL horse. It's a necessary drawback I guess.
Wait... But... We need Corrosion to do that. Or should we just give it a new ability that's basically Corrosion + Normalize?If we give it Toxic, it means it can badly poison Toxapex right?
I think we will finish sooner than that, don't worry. Let's just wait until next FridayIs it worth discussing though? We already missed this April fools date so we cannot unleash the horse on the meta until the next April fools, and we probably won't be finished at that time as well
extending the voting period to next friday so as to keep the schedule consistent. keep your posts on topic xox
I might just be stupid bc i thought a normal toxic would be able to poison steel/poison types.Wait... But... We need Corrosion to do that. Or should we just give it a new ability that's basically Corrosion + Normalize?
Not a bad idea I guess, but Mega Kick is hella inaccurate (only Focus Blast is less accurate as I remember?). My idea is that Anthrax is the same thing as Toxic except it lowers the foe's Def and Sp. Def and can kill Poison/Steel types. It will make Toxapex (and pretty much any other wall) vulnerable to our Horse.actually make it deadlier than toxic, so that walls will not dare stand up to our HORSE. out horse will have a niche as a fast physical attacker with sub/anthrax/mega kick/filler, how about that
No, it cannot. You need CORROSION.I might just be stupid bc i thought a normal toxic would be able to poison steel/poison types.
This seems like a good idea to make our horse more powerful.how about creating a new status called ANTHRAX which only horse pokemon can transmit, and which is functionally the same as toxic
actually make it deadlier than toxic, so that walls will not dare stand up to our HORSE. our horse will have a niche as a fast physical attacker with sub/anthrax/mega kick/filler, how about that
Not a bad idea I guess, but Mega Kick is hella inaccurate (only Focus Blast is less accurate as I remember?). My idea is that Anthrax is the same thing as Toxic except it lowers the foe's Def and Sp. Def and can kill Poison/Steel types. It will make Toxapex (and pretty much any other wall) vulnerable to our Horse.
What if it does damage THEN badly poison the target?252+ Atk Normalize Mudsdale Mega Kick vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Toxapex: 165-195 (54.2 - 64.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Normalize Mudsdale High Horsepower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Toxapex: 130-154 (42.7 - 50.6%) -- 2% chance to 2HKO
I understand Normalize is a bad ability now. (Mudsdale is the horse, with my stat spread)
This seems like a good idea to make our horse more powerful.
Looks like a good idea. Maybe retool its ability or something to allow it to always Anthrax the target after attacking. Or create a horse-exclusive item that allows it to do just that.What if it does damage THEN badly poison the target?
This is less of Normalize being a bad ability and more of Toxapex being one of the best defensive walls in the game.252+ Atk Normalize Mudsdale Mega Kick vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Toxapex: 165-195 (54.2 - 64.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Normalize Mudsdale High Horsepower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Toxapex: 130-154 (42.7 - 50.6%) -- 2% chance to 2HKO
I understand Normalize is a bad ability now. (Mudsdale is the horse, with my stat spread)
252+ Atk Silk Scarf Normalize Mudsdale High Horsepower vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Cinderace: 370-436 (122.9 - 144.8%) -- guaranteed OHKOMy stat submission is
120 HP/165 Atk/135 Def/80 SpA/130 SpD/150 Spe
BST: 780
252+ Atk Normalize Mudsdale Double Iron Bash (2 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Toxapex: 168-200 (55.2 - 65.7%) -- approx. 2HKOstat spread:
100/170/100/80/100/140 = bst: 690
This makes our horse very fast and powerful. Haha 69(0) Nothing else to say.
movepool:
SPECIAL MOVE!1!11!11!
Double Horse Kick (open for suggestions)
- Horse-type
- Move is so basic it ignores any abilities on the field when dealing damage (including its own)
- Meaning we have a STAB-horse move
- 60 BP/hit
- 99% accuracy
Moveset:
Double Horse Kick
High Horsepower
Rest
Explosion
Final Gambit
You missed that Double Horse Kick is a "SPECIAL MOVE!1!11!11!" and ignores all abilities on the field, so Normalize should not affect this calc. I don't see a Horse-type on the horse, but I did a separate calc with STAB anyway. Unfortunately the Silk Scarf only boosts Normal-type attacks.252+ Atk Normalize Mudsdale Double Iron Bash (2 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Toxapex: 168-200 (55.2 - 65.7%) -- approx. 2HKO
(Double Iron Bash is a stand-in for Double Horse Kick due to similar power, and Mudsdale is Normal-type and has the same stats)
It's a special attack?
It says special in your description, not physical or status. Since the horse-type didn't exist in generations before the physical/special split happened, there are really no other inferences we can go off of.movepool:
SPECIAL MOVE!1!11!11!
Double Horse Kick (open for suggestions)
- Horse-type
- Move is so basic it ignores any abilities on the field when dealing damage (including its own)
- Meaning we have a STAB-horse move
- 60 BP/hit
- 99% accuracy