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People use bliss as a wall in general and dont focus on the special side due to having another pokemon that is both physically and specially defensive. imo...Wow. I see Bold Bliss is still more popular than Calm Bliss, and many of them still have no SPDEF EV's at all.
When will people learn?
Well, of course, EVERY Blissey needs max Defense. But 714/130/306 Blissey can't wall special hits as effectively as Calm Bliss; the standard 651/119/385 Blissey ISN'T 2HKO'd by things like Choice Specs Lucario's Aura Sphere or Specs Alakazam's Focus Blast.You are all wrong about Blissey. Defense is its most important stat, it should be made to withstand physical hits as much as possible.
714/130 Blissey forever. Maximize its ability to take physical hits. If you were to move its HP EV's into Special Defense (652/369), you'd only gain a little bit more Special survivability (versus 714/306) at the cost of Physical survivability. With all the mixed attackers out there, you need to make Blissey as able as possible to take the random Brick Breaks and such.
I believe the point Ian is trying to make is that it is more effective against split attackers such as Salamence, or other such Pokemon that might be split. Blissey is fine at walling special attackers. If you're worried about something sitting there and using Nasty Plot in your face or what have you (such as the kind of hits you're suggesting Blissey take) then you need to rethink your game plan.Well, of course, EVERY Blissey needs max Defense. But 714/130/306 Blissey can't wall special hits as effectively as Calm Bliss; the standard 651/119/385 Blissey ISN'T 2HKO'd by things like Choice Specs Lucario's Aura Sphere or Specs Alakazam's Focus Blast.
Don't forget that Blissey is, first and foremost, a special wall. This isn't Advance anymore, and Blissey NEEDS to be Calm and to have a good investment in SPDEF (176 or so EV's) in order to effectively wall special attackers. 714/130 Blissey is able to take physical hits fairly well, but you can't wall physical attackers (as once something throws Close Combat at you, you're dead anyway), and you can't even wall special sweepers as effectively anymore, which defeats the purpose of using Blissey.
I only use it for the guaranteed OHKO on Scizor (which Tbolt fails to do on the scarfer). Oh well, guess it'll happen soon...| Magnezone | Move | HP-Fire | 51.7 |
You've gotta be kidding me?? I can't wait until Scizor starts running Shed Shell so people can stop using such a useless Hidden Power.
What set?Outrage from Life Orb Salamence 2HKOs any varient of Blissey even with no attack EVs and a Neutral Nature, so thats a moot point.
Fuck Blissey... I'm glad the whore is dropping rapidly. She is probably the biggest liability on a team since its so predictable to double switch when she comes in and set up something.
Also, whoever makes comments about Dragonite being "outclassed" or "sucks" need to actually use it first before talking. It plays differently then his other dragons... much differently.
Have you ever tried late game Dragonite?I find it surprising that Dusknoir and Dragonite are both still OU - I honestly don't think I've seen a single one in weeks. They are both outclassed by another pokemon quite soundly, so I'm not sure why their usage stats are so much higher than something like Porygon2, who has no better equivalent in OU.
Have you ever tried late game anything?
Ugh, I hate the "late game" argument. Seriously, anything can be good late game if it's counters are eliminated/weakened. I'm not even kidding. Really, everytime somebody warrants an uncommon pokemon, the term "late game" pops up. Considering the use of a pokemon because it can pwn late game is a massively flawed argument.
As much as I hear the shit, I'm surprised that teams even function properly. From the sound of things teams consist of 1 lead and 5 late game pokemon. What happens mid-game? Ugh.
Ok, I'm done ranting.
Thanks for adding percentages Doug. That helps a lot