How is Sylveon an upgrade over Florges? It passes bigger wishes, but if that's all I wanted why wouldn't I just use Vaporeon? It hits a bit harder with Hyper Voice, but it's also a lot slower. It would be stuck between a rock and hard place.
It's not "a lot slower". In fact, there is no relevant Pokémon that uninvested Florges would outspeed and beat but uninvested Sylveon would not. The obvious reason for not using Vaporeon(or rather, Alomomola since Vaporeon is garbage) if I want bigger wishes is that Alomomola isn't a Fairy type.How is Sylveon an upgrade over Florges? It passes bigger wishes, but if that's all I wanted why wouldn't I just use Vaporeon? It hits a bit harder with Hyper Voice, but it's also a lot slower. It would be stuck between a rock and hard place.
Thanks Hydreigon.Florges is one of the best Pokemon in UU.
This was a hotly debated topic back in OU two years ago as to my knowledge, but basically, Sylveon's cleric set is a completely superior version of cleric Florges. In fact, Florges has nothing over Sylveon in terms of being a cleric, and Sylveon is superior in every aspect.How is Sylveon an upgrade over Florges? It passes bigger wishes, but if that's all I wanted why wouldn't I just use Vaporeon? It hits a bit harder with Hyper Voice, but it's also a lot slower. It would be stuck between a rock and hard place.
I don't know, how about reasons like this, this, this, and this? The fact that you bring up literally the most outclassed Water-type, much less Wish passer, in UU as competition for a Pokemon that is capable of overshadowing Florges (one of the premier mons in the tier) is just utterly baffling.How is Sylveon an upgrade over Florges? It passes bigger wishes, but if that's all I wanted why wouldn't I just use Vaporeon?
0 SpA Vaporeon Scald vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Spinda: 142-168 (54.4 - 64.3%)It hits a bit harder with Hyper Voice, but it's also a lot slower.
No thanks, Conkeldurr and Mega Altaria are actually decent in OU.| 53 | Conkeldurr | 3.177% |
| 54 | Altaria-Mega | 3.168% |
MAKE THIS HAPPEN BOIS, GIVE THEM TO UU
This is just a proof of how cancerous the ladders are getting sometimes... I dunno how a poké that was considered a while ago, one of the most dangerous on the tier, is now without enough usage to be a real OU member... And then Typ, Cinc and Ambi are still RU... BTW... Now PU ladder is totally Crustle infested... I guess the new toy syndrome is real xD| 54 | Altaria-Mega | 3.168% |
MAKE THIS HAPPEN BOIS, GIVE THEM TO UU
It counters Bisharp, it laughs at De Blob, it has an incredibly powerful priority move that hits a lot of the metagame hard, it's hard to switch into. It's good in OU.Conkeldurr should drop, as it's actually pretty bad in OU
Its slow, easily revenge-killed, and weak to a lot of common metagame threats such as Talon, Hoopa, and Gard.It counters Bisharp, it laughs at De Blob, it has an incredibly powerful priority move that hits a lot of the metagame hard, it's hard to switch into. It's good in OU.
You know what also does this? Infernape, which is a lot more versatile and less exploitable than Conk is as well. So yeah, don't sing this mon's high praises too much.It counters Bisharp, it laughs at De Blob, it has an incredibly powerful priority move that hits a lot of the metagame hard, it's hard to switch into. It's good in OU.
It's actually A- Ranked atm, and people have been discussing the possibility of dropping it to B+. The meta has developed in such a way that it has become really hostile to Mega Altaria; it's become increasingly tougher for MAlt to pull off whatever it wants to do these days (be it sweeping, tanking, supporting) as a lot of teams have become conditioned to it.How in the holy name of Bob Saget does mega Altaria, who by the way is consistently ranked in A+ in OU, have almost cutoff level of usage?!
What? Yama is great in NU right now and there's no way it's dropping same with sableye in UUBecause I have nothing else to do right now, I'm going to predict next month:
Hariyama: NU --> PU
(Medicham-Mega: OU --> BL )
Sableye: UU --> RU
| 4 | Hariyama | 17.491% |