Hmm. Now I'm thinking the whole Volt Tackle thing is probably fake, if that's all the basis for the info we have.
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So... it's in D/P's coding that Electivire can learn Volt Tackle?
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I'd just wait for Platinum to come out in a week to see what tutors there are.
Uh, in the past have future Tutor moves been bred like this? I doubt they have. It sounds like everyone's getting excited over a glitch Nintendo didn't detect since nothing learns VT that Vire can breed with. It's not a "OMG HES GOING TO LEARN IT" kind of thing.
This isn't even an Extended Game Clause issue. You have to make a completely illegitamite Pokémon to exploit the glitch, then breed. There's no difference between this and hacking a move straight onto a Pokémon, as you're exploiting a glitch that shouldn't be exploitable.
This isn't even an Extended Game Clause issue. You have to make a completely illegitamite Pokémon to exploit the glitch, then breed. There's no difference between this and hacking a move straight onto a Pokémon, as you're exploiting a glitch that shouldn't be exploitable.
Its not in the coding of dp chris, it is in the Coding of Gen 3 games (accourding to the topic starter)
Ah, it's you!
Good to see you!
Your PIKACHU and ELECTABUZZ are doing just fine.
The two prefer to play with other
Pokemon more than with each other.
That's what happen when I put a Male Pikachu with Volt Tackle and a Female Elctabuzz
Good to see you!
Your PIKACHU and ELECTABUZZ are doing just fine.
The two prefer to play with other
Pokemon more than with each other.
That's what happen when I put a Male Pikachu with Volt Tackle and a Female Elctabuzz
Yeah? How else would you get the tutor moves that are only in Platinum lol? That's like saying it's gay that you have to send your Gengar over to D/P to get Focus Blast, there's no other way to get the move.
Anyway, I'm sending all my competetive stuff over to Platinum asap. Screw Diamond. That's going to be my new storage bin, along with Pearl.
I might not send all Pokes to my Platinum..as I don't have two DSes (unless I decide to buy DS lite and keep my current one) so I'll be only doing it with my friend(s). If something I bred doesn't get tutor moves, I'll probably not trade it to Platinum unless it's in one of my teams and I want to use in a battle.
I for one am making a complete summary of this...
It started out with Regimoss claiming to have a baby elekid with the egg move "Volt tackle". It then spread into the fact that a few others were coded to learn it. Trials were held with many combinations, and the babies had no volt tackle (smeargle + chimchar, hacked ditto with volt tackle + another pokemon with volt tackle).
It was then revealed via pm that Regimoss had a bad egg in his Ruby - a big sign that the code used is more powerful than just "normal" hacking - it was able to violate the laws of breeding pokemon. This is not the first time we have seen a code break some fundamental law and transcend the generation (ie, you hacked swapert, and three generations down, it still turned up hacked), nor will it probablybe the last.
Mr. goodbar, knowledgable as he is, pointed out that bulbapedia (where it was noted about the coding) never stated how it is put on to the pokemon - lending to the theory of a new move tutor. Or an event move (more on that later).
More testing takes place. Mr Goodbar in his infinite wisdom points out that the tutor moves cannot be passed down, which lends to his theory - the problem is that Regimoss had claimed he DID pass it down via breeding.
ANinyMouse brings up questions about other hidden moves - maybe seed bomb pachirisu, or gunk shot crogunk. A fact more important though (and why I site this post) is the mention that Nintendo is allowing only Platinum to be involved in future events - not DP. Which lends a question as to trading, mechanics changes, etc. This, it should be noted, is not completely true - we know for a fact that Pal Park is still an option, and that the special Regigigas will need to be sent over there anyway.
Articanus brings up a point that I mentioned earlier on in this post - the fact that a cheat code is so powerful that it can screw over the very laws of the game. If anyone can verify WonderGuard Spiritomb is hit by fire fang, that'd be great.
mailman brings up that there is evidence for an event with this happening, pointing to an article on google that used no spell check. Apparently the event would have special properties, and pass down the move (so, male Electivire with Volt Tackle from the event will breed with a female Mr. Mime to produe a Mr. Mime with Volt Tackle). This would not be the first time an event had special properties - Regigigas from the movie event will trigger the opening of the caves.
A few shout outs to answer questions...
Little Green yoda - there is a Shaymin event for DP - the one with the special regigigas.
Metanite got this to work, apparenlty - http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1457682&postcount=82
For those worried about the trading - I suspect that it'll be like Emerald, where if the pokemon is not in the sinnoh dex (expanded to 204 recently revealed), you can't trade it until the national dex.
That is the summary, discuss if you like...
It started out with Regimoss claiming to have a baby elekid with the egg move "Volt tackle". It then spread into the fact that a few others were coded to learn it. Trials were held with many combinations, and the babies had no volt tackle (smeargle + chimchar, hacked ditto with volt tackle + another pokemon with volt tackle).
It was then revealed via pm that Regimoss had a bad egg in his Ruby - a big sign that the code used is more powerful than just "normal" hacking - it was able to violate the laws of breeding pokemon. This is not the first time we have seen a code break some fundamental law and transcend the generation (ie, you hacked swapert, and three generations down, it still turned up hacked), nor will it probablybe the last.
Mr. goodbar, knowledgable as he is, pointed out that bulbapedia (where it was noted about the coding) never stated how it is put on to the pokemon - lending to the theory of a new move tutor. Or an event move (more on that later).
More testing takes place. Mr Goodbar in his infinite wisdom points out that the tutor moves cannot be passed down, which lends to his theory - the problem is that Regimoss had claimed he DID pass it down via breeding.
ANinyMouse brings up questions about other hidden moves - maybe seed bomb pachirisu, or gunk shot crogunk. A fact more important though (and why I site this post) is the mention that Nintendo is allowing only Platinum to be involved in future events - not DP. Which lends a question as to trading, mechanics changes, etc. This, it should be noted, is not completely true - we know for a fact that Pal Park is still an option, and that the special Regigigas will need to be sent over there anyway.
Articanus brings up a point that I mentioned earlier on in this post - the fact that a cheat code is so powerful that it can screw over the very laws of the game. If anyone can verify WonderGuard Spiritomb is hit by fire fang, that'd be great.
mailman brings up that there is evidence for an event with this happening, pointing to an article on google that used no spell check. Apparently the event would have special properties, and pass down the move (so, male Electivire with Volt Tackle from the event will breed with a female Mr. Mime to produe a Mr. Mime with Volt Tackle). This would not be the first time an event had special properties - Regigigas from the movie event will trigger the opening of the caves.
A few shout outs to answer questions...
Little Green yoda - there is a Shaymin event for DP - the one with the special regigigas.
Metanite got this to work, apparenlty - http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1457682&postcount=82
For those worried about the trading - I suspect that it'll be like Emerald, where if the pokemon is not in the sinnoh dex (expanded to 204 recently revealed), you can't trade it until the national dex.
That is the summary, discuss if you like...
I know I'm being self-contradictory by even posting here, but isn't it ridiculous we have a 5 page thread over such an obvious troll?
I mean, when you have a thread about "some glitch" where the OP posts once, I think you can know what's going on.
edit: Oh, metanite got it to work? ok then. On topic though, just turn on the AR codes "All pokemon can learn any TM" and "Change TM 01" and you can hatch an egg with basically anything you want. I use the code to hack moves onto espeons (Synchronizer with Spore/False Swipe/Screech anyone?), and once without realizing I had it on, hatched a Fire Blast mudkip. lol
I mean, when you have a thread about "some glitch" where the OP posts once, I think you can know what's going on.
edit: Oh, metanite got it to work? ok then. On topic though, just turn on the AR codes "All pokemon can learn any TM" and "Change TM 01" and you can hatch an egg with basically anything you want. I use the code to hack moves onto espeons (Synchronizer with Spore/False Swipe/Screech anyone?), and once without realizing I had it on, hatched a Fire Blast mudkip. lol
As for the WonderTomb glitch, mtgxerxes proved that Fire Fang does hit through Wonder Guard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRGLxOk8nsQ
So yeah, there's no telling why this happens, but no idea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRGLxOk8nsQ
So yeah, there's no telling why this happens, but no idea.
The problem with that logic is that Fire Fang is the only move to get through like that. Wonder Guard's original owner gets hit by Flamethrower as well but WG blocks that.
I'm saying there shouldn't be any move tutors in Platinum that you aren't able to bring over to D/P.
Wondertomb getting hit by Fire Fang isn't "oh shit the hacking code changed the laws of pokémon". It's something already programmed. Just try to Trace Wonder Guard and you'll get the same effect.
And once again, if the guy (and MetaNite) managed to get the damn Volt Tackle Elekid from an egg, it doesn't mean it's going to be a new move tutor, or that's an event move. It's just the damn Razor Wind Scyther from the pre-XD era: It DOES have the move at its Egg List, but NO ONE can pass down the move. Maybe the same happens to Electivire. Maybe.
By the way, RB Golbat, the OP said he did the breeding in D/P ("palpark'ed it").
And once again, if the guy (and MetaNite) managed to get the damn Volt Tackle Elekid from an egg, it doesn't mean it's going to be a new move tutor, or that's an event move. It's just the damn Razor Wind Scyther from the pre-XD era: It DOES have the move at its Egg List, but NO ONE can pass down the move. Maybe the same happens to Electivire. Maybe.
By the way, RB Golbat, the OP said he did the breeding in D/P ("palpark'ed it").
Well, so did I and I am more inclined to believe a test that I have seen with my own eye, then what someone posts on a message board that contradicts it. I've gone from possibly believing this to not at all.
I'm not sure why I even went from "All of these Humanshape Pokemon can learn it" to "It could be an egg move" if the method was unknown to begin with. If it was an egg move then it would be listed as an egg move, right?
There's no way I can believe any of this story, anymore; not without looking through the code or being able to reproduce the OP's claim myself.
EDIT: Regimoss must be ROTFLing right now... ><
There's no way I can believe any of this story, anymore; not without looking through the code or being able to reproduce the OP's claim myself.
EDIT: Regimoss must be ROTFLing right now... ><
If MetaNite does not lie he did the same and it worked for him.
Obviously it wasn't intentional on Nintendo's part...
So yeah, if a glitcch were found in this manner, it would'nt be "Extended Game", right? I thought Extended Game is only to open the Arceus event, but not to hack Pokémon. This would be exploiting a glitch in order to avoid using Move Mod... I doubt it'd be allowed.
ATTENTION TO EVERYONE: THIS IS NOT REAL. EVEN IF IT WERE IT SAYS NOTHING ABOUT PLATINUM'S POSSIBLE TUTORS. VOLT TACKLE IS AS OF NOW A SIGNATURE MOVE.
Did anyone post any pictures? That might help more people believe it really happen.
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