i'll be honest, it wasn't very funny or original or remotely warrantedMan, what? I thought trolling was fine here.
Anyway, Glen has provided exactly the useful post relevant.
it is long but you can just hit x
i'll be honest, it wasn't very funny or original or remotely warrantedMan, what? I thought trolling was fine here.
Anyway, Glen has provided exactly the useful post relevant.
Maybe I'm just being cynical, but I agree with glen's post. Good luck though man, I hope whatever decision you choose makes you happy.
Yes, this is what I was told by people irl. Thanks for erasing my doubts.snip
Just what the fuck are you talking about?quotations
Thanks, I appreciate that kiddo.liked this thread because i liked glen's post. only posted to say: gl yuri, you're a good guy
Again, I've been told all those things before but apparently lost track of them. Thank you for making me remember.snip
I actually see where you are going there and I seriously think it is noble of you but that is not going to happen.op is evil
there is nothing cynical at all about my post ?_?
Normal. Girls and guys can be the bestest friends and not like each other. Doesnt mean both sex had interest at some point. I know in my mindset, I meet and talk to girls just for the sake of my needs to attract the opposite sex. Over time tho, things change depending on your situation and you just start moving on with your life. In your case, im speculating that the fact that she was married and unstable drove you away from you liking her. But it could also be the fact that you have other priorities and trying to be get into a relationship isnt your primary need. Lastly, I dont wanna sound mean, but in a way you might have a sort of insecureness for yourself so you just dont expect people to dedicate their time to you.One thing that bugs me is that I never felt a warm, fuzzy feeling around her. I felt very comfortable and, say, unshackled. This never changed. I think I never really had a crush or anything and now I feel guilty for that.
We grew more and more attached to each other, both as friends and as lovers. Today I can assure you she is the sweetest and most understanding person I have ever met and is someone I care a lot about. I felt I could talk about anything with her and so did she. We shared our views, hopes and fears on many subjects and had deep respect for each other.
Shes unstable. People at one point come to their senses and say one thing. But when they are stressed, they say a different thing. You should try to recognize her stress level and facial expressions when she says specific things. Hard to explain in words cause I just have a innate ability to recognize certain qualities in people after a certain time.We never hold any illusion on our relationship, though. We knew from day one it had no future and agreed that either one could terminate it at any time. One thing that pissed me off is how she constantly reminded me of that and that she wanted me to get a real girlfriend. I am still not sure why she mentioned it so often.
This is great and your on point. As of right now, she is very insecure and she just wants anyone and most importantly the person she trusts at that moment to give her the extra boost of confidence. Because she trusted you and you gave her a sense of energy, she took extra steps on decision making. All it takes is little steps to realize what you want, positive or/ negative depending on the individual.But Mary is an insecure woman. She even told me she is deathly afraid of being alone. In my view, that is the biggest reason for her not divorcing, much bigger than the others. I told her that was bullshit, she was a beautiful and interesting woman and the opinion of others don't matter. She got better with time, I like to think it was in part my words of incentive but perhaps it was the simple fact a guy was giving her the attention she needed and that boosted her confidence. But it doesn't matter, she was taking bolder decisions and I was glad for that. She even cut her hair short! Hey, it was a big deal for her and I felt very proud.
If I was in your situation, I would tell her to divorce her husband too. But I dont know her situation and how it may involve you. If lets say she indeed does listen to your advice, she might fall more in love with you or finally realize specific things and become a more stable individual. Up to youAs you can see, part of me wanted her to divorce her husband but at the same time I know it'd be unfair to give her false hopes. This is probably because, damn, she was the first woman to ever like me, I was in a rush of feelings I had never experienced. Good thing I was still thinking with the correct head.
Complicated. Im best guessing she broke up with you because she doesn't want you to be to involved in her life because she cares for you too much. And she knows shes spiraling down. Or also she realizes she is just using you for her own needs and it doesnt seem fair for a person that she thinks as of a true friend. Complicated, sometimes best friends just cant be couples, but best friends make the perfect couple. Complicated.Next week she broke up with me. The one thing that shouldn't have happened came to be: she realised she was falling for me. Since it was our agreement, I had no right to claim and accepted it stoically. I was, however, a little sad. I understand that such sadness may have been legit or only because I had lost my only means of sex. I am trying to be objective here, at the end of the day I am still human and still a man, and the flesh is weak. But let me tell you how delightfully ironic it is to hear "you are perfect and I love you and because of that we must part ways".
Oh lord...That was just the introduction. Now my problem begins.
Natural feeling for some people. You just get so attached to one person that you just dont wanna go back because so so used to it now. Your use to being around her, your use to having sex with her. But most importantly, this probably your first real connection with someone and this feeling you had with her is unlike anyone else. You desperately try to find it others, but you cant because your either thinking about her too much or trying to exert yourself too much by all this thinking and even some actions you took.It's been about two months since and I am starting to miss her a lot. It's even ridiculous. I think about it everywhere, everytime. When I am at work, when I am at university, when I am trying to sleep... I keep telling myself it is my body missing her, not my heart. But, damn, what do I know? I keep having these sexual and other fantasies and I feel like an idiot for that. It is over, move on, I tell myself, it is only your sex drive.But I will be damned if I don't want her back.
Changes things a little.. makes the situation less complicated the reason she mighta broke up with you. She just didnt want you to be involved in her unstable life. But divorce is a huge step for her and she wants you to be there for support. Whatever happens after, its your choices.Mary and I have a friend in common who I will call Ana. The three of us are good friends and she knows everything. She is mostly a friend of Mary, though. One of these days we were talking about Mary and she told me one thing that only now is having a disturbing effect on me: Ana said that probably if I assured Mary I'd be there for her she'd divorce. That is quite a bit of responsibility.
Thats life, some people can take a minute to realize that they need to get out of this situation. Some 1 week, 1 month, 1 year, 50 years, or never. Depends on the people around them, but most importantly how strong they are mentally. I believe you can make a difference, but thats a risk that may get you hurt. If it was me and a close friend or gf desperately needed soul searching, ill die for them to find the answer.But damnit, what next? Is she going to wait for her mother to die so she can divorce? Is she going to wake up in ten, fifteen years and realise how empty her marriage has been. I don't believe she is happy in her marriage.
Why can't you? Are you scared? Do you think you have no power over her fate? I think you can, but like I said.. its risky to get involved in this. Drama is bound to further. You decide whats better.. trying to go back to your own life with all these memories and maybe even thinking what could have happen. Or get in there and help her out. In my opinion, you care for her alot because she is a very important person to you and you dont want her to suffer anymore.The worst is that I can't tell her that. That'd be giving false hopes and generaly screwing her mind and spirit. I can't do that. I wish I could.
What Ana told me is making me nervous. Do I possess such power? Can I really have her back so easily? I know I have no right to do that. The marriage is a very big deal to Mary, I can't simply ignore that.
If saying I love you is easy way out, then you were right all along. You dont love her, you just love the needs that she gives to you. You feel important being around her. Doesn't mean you cant find something else. But if you do help her out of her mental instability, you can also do something greater for yourself and her, doesnt mean you two have to be in a relationship in the future. There isnt just two options here where all they give you if I go to her and help or ignore her and try to forget. You can help her out, but still not try to get too involved with her in the future.Part of me wants to simply say "I love you" but that'd be the easy way out. What do I know? Do something stupid and blame it on love? I am not that low.
Part of life and growing up.I fear I might have become something I hate.
I even suggested that you try different woman. For me, its easy. I have the self-confidence in myself and ability to communicate with anyone, not just girls. I understand if you are the shy-type. I use to be a shy type back when i was like 14 even tho I had a wide group of friends. But being shy aint worth it. Your missing out on a lot of things in life. You can live back in the shadows.. but youll never be able to see what lies beyond.One thing I've considered is to engage in another relationship and see if I can placate this feeling. There is a problem though: this is the hardest thing in the world for me. I am perhaps a love-shy person. That is to say I am HORRIBLE at dealing with the opposite sex. I can't. I've tried and I just can't. I become incredibly anxious, nervous, irritable. I can't even talk, a huge lump forms in my throat. But I am aware that blaming it on some random psychological disorder is lame and the easy way out, even though I do identify with some of the "symptoms". But it could be self-suggestion.
Whats wrong is that getting in this situation, took you out of your comfort zone. Can be a bad thing, but hypotheically speaking this a great thing. Getting out of your comfort zone expands your point of life, changes your life and should become a more stronger individual. You probably dont see her as your wife or w/e in the future. But that doesnt mean you can try to calm her down and be a great friend to her.I don't know what to do. My guts tell me to try and convince Mary to come back but my brain tells me this is wrong. At any rate, this is something I needed to talk and organizing this mess of thoughts in words has helped imensely in calming me down. If you read until here, I greatly appreciate it.