Gonna ignore the baseless criticism of a Rapid Spinner losing to a Spinblocker on a team with double removal that you use to segue into posting your own set, really unnecessary and kinda cringe.
Because it was brought up, I just want to point out that Cyclizar can actually beat Gholdengo in a couple of other ways: Overheat and Tera Dark Knock Off. I used a Life Orb set with offensive investment in testing, though, so I don't know what the calcs would be on your set. Conversely, Temper Flare might be able to 1HKO Ghold in the right set according to some brief calcs I ran. I'm not saying you are wrong to run it less offensive and more for utility. It just seems that a lot of people don't know Cyclizar can in fact beat Gholdengo.
On stall cyclizar can actually run temper flare to beat ghold after it tries to rapid spin into it. Just another idea.
I would say it’s above decent mid tier, but it’s a matter of preference imo. Since I am a pedantic stall player, I will mention some other cool stuff Cyclizar does on stall. With U-turn it becomes a Magma Storm switch in and with Regen it can switch into pivoting moves like U-turn and Volt Switch to prevent Blissey from getting worn down over the course of the game. Protect with tera steel is used because it can be a good Future Sight absorber with Regen. Happy Birthday.
Cyclizar is quite solid on Stall (not a top tier, but a decent mid tier) due to Rapid Spin + U-Turn + Knock. For its last slot, it runs Protect or Temper Flare to beat Gholdengo.View attachment 691973
Yeah no.
I just don’t see the vision.
Appreciate the dedication, but if your dedicated spinner only does around 45% max to the most common Ghold set (defensive Ghold), then its probably not a reliable spinner. Being unable to threaten Pecha and Sinistcha besides Knock or U-Turn for momentum is also not great for it.
While we’re on the topic of spinning and hazards, I want to highlight a set I’ve been running.
Samurott-Hisui @ Heavy-Duty Boots/Chople Berry
Ability: Sharpness
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 172 HP / 252 SpA / 84 Spe
Rash Nature
- Surf
- Ceaseless Edge
- Knock Off
- Encore
Might optimize the EVs later, but to sum it up, Surf smacks a ton of Samu’s physically bulky checks such as Zapdos, Zama, Clef, Corv, etc. You also one-shot Tusk and have a high roll to OHKO Lando after a Ceaseless. It also helps that most special walls in the tier hate switching into Samurott and even with minimal or 0 Atk investment, Ceaseless and Knock are still generating immense pressure onto teams. I like this set for how hard Surf punishes Tusk for staying in on Samu while 1v1ing Corv, enabling teammates like Gambit. You could also run Chople in case of CC.
I don't see this working - Rotom Wash tricks scarf because it's good at abusing it and offhanding it to potential walls. Toxic orb cripples your own Washtom permanently with no benefits if you cannot click Trick turn 1 against something (e.g. Gholdengo, switching in Washtom against Gliscor who it would otherwise beat etc.)
Yeah I get that but crippling your opponent with the toxic orb is definitely worth sacrificing rotom wash imo. I feel like in this situation the pros definitely outweigh the cons in this situation. Not that I don't see the flaws in this (giving the toxic orb to gholdengo would be kind of bad) but I feel like the pros outweigh the cons here.
More to the point, what walls are you crippling with Toxic other than Blissey? Gliscor doesn't care, Great Tusk is better burned or Pumped, Iron Crown doesn't care and switches out, Roaring moon is better burned, Dondozo gets Volt Switched or T'bolted for massive damage, and Clodsire and Pecharunt really don't care.
115 attack, below average speed and no bulk,
Why would I use a shit mon (half of one good Pokemon) just to bring back half of another good Pokemon. The math turns out the same if I just use a good Pokemon in place of Pawmot
You have much powerful STAB Close Combat in Great Tusk and Zama and due to its 105 base Atk (which would be considered mediocre in the tier, for not saying bad because it is not as bad) you are not gaining nothing in using it as a physical attacker, as it is usually played in other tiers.
Revival Blessing tends to be more of a win more button than a turn the tide button. Offensive teams with momentum are more likely to be able to KO Pawmot before it revives something and/or whatever you brought back at half health. Unless you are utilizing a very niche strategy that relies on spamming a specific mon or two, RB tends to be fairly lacking.
Pawmot doesn’t have to use Iron Fist. It also has the excellent Natural Cure, allowing it to attack Moltres without fear.
That's kind of true, but the problem is still power. 115 attack really isn't enough. Iron fist is the only power boosting ability it gets. If you don't use an ability to boost power, you are just stuck with the mid base 115 attack.
It’s been seeing use as an alternative (and better imo) Webs setter than Ribombee because it lets Webs teams not get 6-0ed by Iron Moths while having the bulk to potentially set Webs multiple times in a match, helped by Custap Berry letting it move first if used correctly. Also helps that it has a favorable matchup into most opposing Rockers and annihilates the most common removal option in Great Tusk.
ha. HAHAHAHA. I KNEW IT. I KNEW that STINKATON was always going to be a fad. FUCK that little gremlin piece of shit.
Rockslide Tusk has been my answer for a lot of deeply annoying things in this game. Removes the birds, Now the spider, and makes your match up into the stupid ice dragon better if you prefer headlong over CC. Too bad that there's still no fucking Rockmove that isn't 100 accuracy that is readily applicable.
Local Pawmot enthusiast here. Two main reasons:
Ok, so Pawmot's microniche is being a shitty Lokix for HO, but instead of Priority, it's Double Shock calcs? Along with "multiple" Healing Wish users?
what
Ive been using adamant cornerstone to beat araquinids and the birds. Adamant is honestly better for guaranteeing kills, and you can run anything outside of knock off, power whip, and ivy cudgel. Maybe spikes could work but i havent tried it yet.
