Grimm: who TF is running taunt+spirit break.
whoever makes the ou sample sets, apparently. guess they must not be as skilled as you, though
Ting-Lu: gets worn down with how much it has to check. Loses to phasing sets (And hates being wisped).
you clearly haven't run the calcs if you think ting is getting "worn down". shadow ball does less to it than will-o-wisp does and it can come in on dragon pulse something like 5 times. phazing sets don't exist. also, yeah, it hates being wisped, and i pointed out that it hates being wisped. so thanks for agreeing with me
Dirge: has to run tera fairy and can still lose to roar versions of phasing sets.
if you're not running tera fairy on dirge you're not running a serious team. phazing sets (please spell it correctly) continue to not exist, and even if they did, being forced out by one isn't "losing". if you're throwing up your hands and saying "welp, guess that one's a lost cause" whenever a mon gets phazed out, you won't get very far
Kingambit: loses to wisp sets without tera fire.
which is exactly what i said. i beg of you, please read my posts.
Azu: relying on not GiraA not being set up is the definition of bad as a check. And depending on your own set up is even worse.
fuck is this take g
Valiant: can't even touch CM sets. Also lol "sets without shadow ball" cuz what set isn't running ghost stab. Maybe phasing but...
i must have forgotten to say that because i know for a fact that "loses to cm sets" was one of the bullets at some point in the making of that post. and for the record, there are non-phazing sets without ghost stab
Clod: loses to sub cm sets. And rest. Shitty answer.
no one runs sub cm and i specifically pointed out that it loses to rest. you seem to be equating "this pokemon doesn't beat every single giratina set 100% of the time" with "this pokemon instantly faints if giratina with any set whatsoever is on the field". shitty response.
Garg: loses to phasing sets. Gets trolled by subcm sets.
are the phazing and subcm sets in the room with us right now?
Bax: hoping you face non dragon stab variants is a good show of unreliable. Also loses based in Gura's tera type.
you can't just keep going "b-b-but it doesn't beat every set" like it's an argument. also nice autocorrect
Garchomp: dies to any CM variant. Can't hope to break it at all. And no GiraA isn't switching into chomp so why mention it.
if it "can't hope to break it at all", why
wouldn't you switch into it? please be logically consistent.
Roaring Moon: actually decent except loses to wisp variants.
well, if you've bought into the outrage lum meme,
Dragapult: can't beat CM variants and especially restcm. And stop talking about GiraA switching into these mons. It's hurting your post.
ddance variants beat restcm by merit of having 2 turns to set up because there's no room for sleep talk on any giratina set. in fact, there's basically no room for
anything on any giratina set.
Dragonite: loses to wisp and phasing sets and can't even touch GiraA anyway. Doesn't run dragon stab most of the time so...
what the fuck dragonite sets are you running bro
Greninja: loses to CM variants. Stop saying GiraA switches into these threats. It's not doing that.
fair enough, you do have a point about the switching thing
Wake: offensive check. Can't switch into GiraA. Also shaky vs restcm.
this is what i was going to say about it but i decided to be funny instead, a mistake i will gladly repeat.
Ghold: trickscarf is the only actual workable answer her. And btw, is slower than GiraA. So...
…so what?
i see you've put exactly as much effort into responding to my post as you have reading it
ZoroH: okay. But frailty makes this super inconsistent as any non ghost attack from GiraA ruins it (and relying on illusion mindgames is not reliable counterplay).
i mean, yeah, this is why we're towards the bottom of the list and not the top. i said some of these were situational
Hatt: "sets without shadow ball" I repeat. What sets.
gee, i dunno, how about these "phazing sets" you seem to think exist
Hydreigon: matchup is tera dependant. Lose to dragon stab variants.
every matchup is tera dependent. welcome to gen 9, enjoy your stay
Ttar: literal garbage in the meta game so why is this here
i'm trying to meme him back into ou because he's based
i think you may be missing the point of the post. an average team will likely have
multiple things that are feasibly capable of dealing with different giratina sets, without having to specifically dedicate a teamslot to it. it's the same principle that made lando-t not broken—sure, it could run a million different sets and nothing could beat all of them, but a well-crafted ou team would have 2 or more mons that could cover all or most of lando's viable options in tandem. you're behaving like everyone's running these schrodinger-ass giratina sets that have substitute and calm mind and shadow ball and dragon pulse and roar and dragon tail and will-o-wisp and rest all at the same time when they do not in fact do that. i'd also like to remind everyone that this is, until home actually releases, purely theoretical. it's very possible that i am dead wrong and giratina-a is still broken, but i believe it's worth a shot to test it, if only for a little while, because otherwise we'll never truly know, which is the entire point of testing things. (also, i've been looking for a weird hill to die on for a while)
I'll try to read each mon and reply tomorrow, but you're already losing your ground for not including Specs Glaceon :(
ah shit, you're right. how could i fucking forget. why would the almighty powers above create such a damnèd fool as myself? woe and calamity is me
Finch v. buzz daddy bo5!
ou legal teams. Except finch can also use giratima
i mean, if the stakes are "gira-a drops to ou if i win", i'd be down