Sword & Shield Battle Mechanics Research

Out of curiosity, has anyone tested whether aura wheel is affected by normalize/electrify? I'd assume it isn't, but having confirmation of that would be nice.
 
Also what happens if ditto copies a gigantamax mon in game? I think I saw a ditto copy a Gigantamax Lapras in a pokeaim vid, and it copied the gmax form too. Is that what's supposed to happen? Maybe it's a bug idk.
 

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Yes, they have the Punching move flag in the move data dump (I also tested independently and the damage rolls I got with Iron Fist Wicked Blow / Surging Strikes was impossible without Iron Fist actually applying).

Quick question, can a mon with sticky hold lose a sticky barb?
No, Sticky Hold prevents all forms of Item loss.
Please don't reply if you haven't tested the mechanic in question. A Sticky Hold Pokemon is able to lose their Sticky Barb just fine.
 
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Since a lot of items were added this generation, that means they need to be tested with Fling. While all the potentially useful held items have already been tested, that still leaves a lot of otherwise useless items that haven't been recorded yet, mainly Ingredients and items added in IoA. This is pretty useless information really, but I tested every item I had that didn't already have a Fling base power listed either in the Showdown data or on Bulbapedia.

First though, I did find two interesting things:
  • The Rusted Sword cannot be flung. It fails exactly the same way a Poke ball or Ability Capsule does. I assume the Rusted Shield fails too, but I don't have one so I can't try it.
  • The Apricorns are able to be flung in this Generation. Looking at Bulbapedia, it seems you couldn't fling them in Gen 4, but you can fling them now.
Anyway, for these tests, I used a level 100 Weavile with 303 Attack, flinging into a level 100 Dusclops with 394 Defense and no item.
  • The following items did 18-24 damage, which means they result in a Fling with 10 BP:
    • All Apricorns, Coconut Milk, Fresh Cream, Fried Food, Fruit Bunch, Instant Noodles, Mixed Mushrooms, Pack of Potatoes, Packaged Curry, Pasta, Precooked Burger, Pungent Root, Salad Mix, Sausages, Smoke-Poke Tail
  • The following items did 36-42 damage, which means they result in a Fling with 20 BP:
    • Fancy Apple, Large Leek, Moomoo Cheese
  • The following items did 50-60 damage, which means they result in a Fling with 30 BP:
    • All sizes of Exp. Candies, Dynamax Candy, Galarcia Twig, Galarcia Cuff, Amorite Ore, Max Mushrooms, Max Honey, Brittle Bones
  • The following items did 92-96 damage, which means they result in a Fling with 50 BP:
    • Wishing Piece, Gigantamix, Spice Mix
With that, the only legally obtainable items left are the Rusted Shield which probably fails, and those event Dynamax Crystals with the constellation names. Hopefully those only do 30 BP or something.
 

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Fling power never needs to be empirically tested since it's part of the initial datamine for every game. A power of 0 means it can't be flung.
Thanks, Kaphotics!

IndexItemFling Power
1074​
Endorsement
0​
1075​
Pokémon Box Link
0​
1076​
Wishing Star
0​
1077​
Dynamax Band
0​
1078​
???
0​
1079​
???
0​
1080​
Fishing Rod
0​
1081​
Rotom Bike
0​
1082​
???
0​
1083​
???
0​
1084​
Sausages
10​
1085​
Bob’s Food Tin
80​
1086​
Bach’s Food Tin
80​
1087​
Tin of Beans
80​
1088​
Bread
10​
1089​
Pasta
10​
1090​
Mixed Mushrooms
10​
1091​
Smoke-Poke Tail
10​
1092​
Large Leek
20​
1093​
Fancy Apple
20​
1094​
Brittle Bones
30​
1095​
Pack of Potatoes
10​
1096​
Pungent Root
10​
1097​
Salad Mix
10​
1098​
Fried Food
10​
1099​
Boiled Egg
20​
1100​
Camping Gear
0​
1101​
???
0​
1102​
???
0​
1103​
Rusted Sword
0​
1104​
Rusted Shield
0​
1105​
Fossilized Bird
100​
1106​
Fossilized Fish
100​
1107​
Fossilized Drake
100​
1108​
Fossilized Dino
100​
1109​
Strawberry Sweet
10​
1110​
Love Sweet
10​
1111​
Berry Sweet
10​
1112​
Clover Sweet
10​
1113​
Flower Sweet
10​
1114​
Star Sweet
10​
1115​
Ribbon Sweet
10​
1116​
Sweet Apple
30​
1117​
Tart Apple
30​
1118​
Throat Spray
30​
1119​
Eject Pack
50​
1120​
Heavy-Duty Boots
80​
1121​
Blunder Policy
80​
1122​
Room Service
100​
1123​
Utility Umbrella
60​
1124​
Exp. Candy XS
30​
1125​
Exp. Candy S
30​
1126​
Exp. Candy M
30​
1127​
Exp. Candy L
30​
1128​
Exp. Candy XL
30​
1129​
Dynamax Candy
30​
1130​
TR00
10​
1131​
TR01
85​
1132​
TR02
90​
1133​
TR03
110​
1134​
TR04
90​
1135​
TR05
90​
1136​
TR06
110​
1137​
TR07
10​
1138​
TR08
90​
1139​
TR09
110​
1140​
TR10
100​
1141​
TR11
90​
1142​
TR12
10​
1143​
TR13
10​
1144​
TR14
10​
1145​
TR15
110​
1146​
TR16
80​
1147​
TR17
10​
1148​
TR18
80​
1149​
TR19
80​
1150​
TR20
10​
1151​
TR21
10​
1152​
TR22
90​
1153​
TR23
10​
1154​
TR24
120​
1155​
TR25
80​
1156​
TR26
10​
1157​
TR27
10​
1158​
TR28
120​
1159​
TR29
10​
1160​
TR30
10​
1161​
TR31
100​
1162​
TR32
80​
1163​
TR33
80​
1164​
TR34
120​
1165​
TR35
90​
1166​
TR36
95​
1167​
TR37
10​
1168​
TR38
10​
1169​
TR39
120​
1170​
TR40
10​
1171​
TR41
85​
1172​
TR42
90​
1173​
TR43
130​
1174​
TR44
10​
1175​
TR45
90​
1176​
TR46
10​
1177​
TR47
80​
1178​
TR48
10​
1179​
TR49
10​
1180​
TR50
90​
1181​
TR51
10​
1182​
TR52
10​
1183​
TR53
120​
1184​
TR54
10​
1185​
TR55
120​
1186​
TR56
80​
1187​
TR57
80​
1188​
TR58
80​
1189​
TR59
80​
1190​
TR60
80​
1191​
TR61
90​
1192​
TR62
85​
1193​
TR63
80​
1194​
TR64
120​
1195​
TR65
90​
1196​
TR66
120​
1197​
TR67
90​
1198​
TR68
10​
1199​
TR69
80​
1200​
TR70
80​
1201​
TR71
130​
1202​
TR72
120​
1203​
TR73
120​
1204​
TR74
80​
1205​
TR75
100​
1206​
TR76
10​
1207​
TR77
10​
1208​
TR78
95​
1209​
TR79
10​
1210​
TR80
10​
1211​
TR81
95​
1212​
TR82
20​
1213​
TR83
10​
1214​
TR84
80​
1215​
TR85
10​
1216​
TR86
90​
1217​
TR87
80​
1218​
TR88
10​
1219​
TR89
110​
1220​
TR90
90​
1221​
TR91
10​
1222​
TR92
80​
1223​
TR93
85​
1224​
TR94
95​
1225​
TR95
80​
1226​
TR96
90​
1227​
TR97
85​
1228​
TR98
85​
1229​
TR99
80​
1230​
TM00
0​
1231​
Lonely Mint
10​
1232​
Adamant Mint
10​
1233​
Naughty Mint
10​
1234​
Brave Mint
10​
1235​
Bold Mint
10​
1236​
Impish Mint
10​
1237​
Lax Mint
10​
1238​
Relaxed Mint
10​
1239​
Modest Mint
10​
1240​
Mild Mint
10​
1241​
Rash Mint
10​
1242​
Quiet Mint
10​
1243​
Calm Mint
10​
1244​
Gentle Mint
10​
1245​
Careful Mint
10​
1246​
Sassy Mint
10​
1247​
Timid Mint
10​
1248​
Hasty Mint
10​
1249​
Jolly Mint
10​
1250​
Naive Mint
10​
1251​
Serious Mint
10​
1252​
Wishing Piece
50​
1253​
Cracked Pot
80​
1254​
Chipped Pot
80​
1255​
Hi-tech Earbuds
0​
1256​
Fruit Bunch
10​
1257​
Moomoo Cheese
20​
1258​
Spice Mix
50​
1259​
Fresh Cream
10​
1260​
Packaged Curry
10​
1261​
Coconut Milk
10​
1262​
Instant Noodles
10​
1263​
Precooked Burger
10​
1264​
Gigantamix
50​
1265​
Wishing Chip
0​
1266​
Rotom Bike
0​
1267​
Catching Charm
0​
1268​
???
0​
1269​
Old Letter
0​
1270​
Band Autograph
0​
1271​
Sonia’s Book
0​
1272​
???
0​
1273​
???
0​
1274​
???
0​
1275​
???
0​
1276​
???
0​
1277​
???
0​
1278​
Rotom Catalog
0​
1279​
★And458
0​
1280​
★And15
0​
1281​
★And337
0​
1282​
★And603
0​
1283​
★And390
0​
1284​
★Sgr6879
0​
1285​
★Sgr6859
0​
1286​
★Sgr6913
0​
1287​
★Sgr7348
0​
1288​
★Sgr7121
0​
1289​
★Sgr6746
0​
1290​
★Sgr7194
0​
1291​
★Sgr7337
0​
1292​
★Sgr7343
0​
1293​
★Sgr6812
0​
1294​
★Sgr7116
0​
1295​
★Sgr7264
0​
1296​
★Sgr7597
0​
1297​
★Del7882
0​
1298​
★Del7906
0​
1299​
★Del7852
0​
1300​
★Psc596
0​
1301​
★Psc361
0​
1302​
★Psc510
0​
1303​
★Psc437
0​
1304​
★Psc8773
0​
1305​
★Lep1865
0​
1306​
★Lep1829
0​
1307​
★Boo5340
0​
1308​
★Boo5506
0​
1309​
★Boo5435
0​
1310​
★Boo5602
0​
1311​
★Boo5733
0​
1312​
★Boo5235
0​
1313​
★Boo5351
0​
1314​
★Hya3748
0​
1315​
★Hya3903
0​
1316​
★Hya3418
0​
1317​
★Hya3482
0​
1318​
★Hya3845
0​
1319​
★Eri1084
0​
1320​
★Eri472
0​
1321​
★Eri1666
0​
1322​
★Eri897
0​
1323​
★Eri1231
0​
1324​
★Eri874
0​
1325​
★Eri1298
0​
1326​
★Eri1325
0​
1327​
★Eri984
0​
1328​
★Eri1464
0​
1329​
★Eri1393
0​
1330​
★Eri850
0​
1331​
★Tau1409
0​
1332​
★Tau1457
0​
1333​
★Tau1165
0​
1334​
★Tau1791
0​
1335​
★Tau1910
0​
1336​
★Tau1346
0​
1337​
★Tau1373
0​
1338​
★Tau1412
0​
1339​
★CMa2491
0​
1340​
★CMa2693
0​
1341​
★CMa2294
0​
1342​
★CMa2827
0​
1343​
★CMa2282
0​
1344​
★CMa2618
0​
1345​
★CMa2657
0​
1346​
★CMa2646
0​
1347​
★UMa4905
0​
1348​
★UMa4301
0​
1349​
★UMa5191
0​
1350​
★UMa5054
0​
1351​
★UMa4295
0​
1352​
★UMa4660
0​
1353​
★UMa4554
0​
1354​
★UMa4069
0​
1355​
★UMa3569
0​
1356​
★UMa3323
0​
1357​
★UMa4033
0​
1358​
★UMa4377
0​
1359​
★UMa4375
0​
1360​
★UMa4518
0​
1361​
★UMa3594
0​
1362​
★Vir5056
0​
1363​
★Vir4825
0​
1364​
★Vir4932
0​
1365​
★Vir4540
0​
1366​
★Vir4689
0​
1367​
★Vir5338
0​
1368​
★Vir4910
0​
1369​
★Vir5315
0​
1370​
★Vir5359
0​
1371​
★Vir5409
0​
1372​
★Vir5107
0​
1373​
★Ari617
0​
1374​
★Ari553
0​
1375​
★Ari546
0​
1376​
★Ari951
0​
1377​
★Ori1713
0​
1378​
★Ori2061
0​
1379​
★Ori1790
0​
1380​
★Ori1903
0​
1381​
★Ori1948
0​
1382​
★Ori2004
0​
1383​
★Ori1852
0​
1384​
★Ori1879
0​
1385​
★Ori1899
0​
1386​
★Ori1543
0​
1387​
★Cas21
0​
1388​
★Cas168
0​
1389​
★Cas403
0​
1390​
★Cas153
0​
1391​
★Cas542
0​
1392​
★Cas219
0​
1393​
★Cas265
0​
1394​
★Cnc3572
0​
1395​
★Cnc3208
0​
1396​
★Cnc3461
0​
1397​
★Cnc3449
0​
1398​
★Cnc3429
0​
1399​
★Cnc3627
0​
1400​
★Cnc3268
0​
1401​
★Cnc3249
0​
1402​
★Com4968
0​
1403​
★Crv4757
0​
1404​
★Crv4623
0​
1405​
★Crv4662
0​
1406​
★Crv4786
0​
1407​
★Aur1708
0​
1408​
★Aur2088
0​
1409​
★Aur1605
0​
1410​
★Aur2095
0​
1411​
★Aur1577
0​
1412​
★Aur1641
0​
1413​
★Aur1612
0​
1414​
★Pav7790
0​
1415​
★Cet911
0​
1416​
★Cet681
0​
1417​
★Cet188
0​
1418​
★Cet539
0​
1419​
★Cet804
0​
1420​
★Cep8974
0​
1421​
★Cep8162
0​
1422​
★Cep8238
0​
1423​
★Cep8417
0​
1424​
★Cen5267
0​
1425​
★Cen5288
0​
1426​
★Cen551
0​
1427​
★Cen5459
0​
1428​
★Cen5460
0​
1429​
★CMi2943
0​
1430​
★CMi2845
0​
1431​
★Equ8131
0​
1432​
★Vul7405
0​
1433​
★UMi424
0​
1434​
★UMi5563
0​
1435​
★UMi5735
0​
1436​
★UMi6789
0​
1437​
★Crt4287
0​
1438​
★Lyr7001
0​
1439​
★Lyr7178
0​
1440​
★Lyr7106
0​
1441​
★Lyr7298
0​
1442​
★Ara6585
0​
1443​
★Sco6134
0​
1444​
★Sco6527
0​
1445​
★Sco6553
0​
1446​
★Sco5953
0​
1447​
★Sco5984
0​
1448​
★Sco6508
0​
1449​
★Sco6084
0​
1450​
★Sco5944
0​
1451​
★Sco6630
0​
1452​
★Sco6027
0​
1453​
★Sco6247
0​
1454​
★Sco6252
0​
1455​
★Sco5928
0​
1456​
★Sco6241
0​
1457​
★Sco6165
0​
1458​
★Tri544
0​
1459​
★Leo3982
0​
1460​
★Leo4534
0​
1461​
★Leo4357
0​
1462​
★Leo4057
0​
1463​
★Leo4359
0​
1464​
★Leo4031
0​
1465​
★Leo3852
0​
1466​
★Leo3905
0​
1467​
★Leo3773
0​
1468​
★Gru8425
0​
1469​
★Gru8636
0​
1470​
★Gru8353
0​
1471​
★Lib5685
0​
1472​
★Lib5531
0​
1473​
★Lib5787
0​
1474​
★Lib5603
0​
1475​
★Pup3165
0​
1476​
★Pup3185
0​
1477​
★Pup3045
0​
1478​
★Cyg7924
0​
1479​
★Cyg7417
0​
1480​
★Cyg7796
0​
1481​
★Cyg8301
0​
1482​
★Cyg7949
0​
1483​
★Cyg7528
0​
1484​
★Oct7228
0​
1485​
★Col1956
0​
1486​
★Col2040
0​
1487​
★Col2177
0​
1488​
★Gem2990
0​
1489​
★Gem2891
0​
1490​
★Gem2421
0​
1491​
★Gem2473
0​
1492​
★Gem2216
0​
1493​
★Gem2777
0​
1494​
★Gem2650
0​
1495​
★Gem2286
0​
1496​
★Gem2484
0​
1497​
★Gem2930
0​
1498​
★Peg8775
0​
1499​
★Peg8781
0​
1500​
★Peg39
0​
1501​
★Peg8308
0​
1502​
★Peg8650
0​
1503​
★Peg8634
0​
1504​
★Peg8684
0​
1505​
★Peg8450
0​
1506​
★Peg8880
0​
1507​
★Peg8905
0​
1508​
★Oph6556
0​
1509​
★Oph6378
0​
1510​
★Oph6603
0​
1511​
★Oph6149
0​
1512​
★Oph6056
0​
1513​
★Oph6075
0​
1514​
★Ser5854
0​
1515​
★Ser7141
0​
1516​
★Ser5879
0​
1517​
★Her6406
0​
1518​
★Her6148
0​
1519​
★Her6410
0​
1520​
★Her6526
0​
1521​
★Her6117
0​
1522​
★Her6008
0​
1523​
★Per936
0​
1524​
★Per1017
0​
1525​
★Per1131
0​
1526​
★Per1228
0​
1527​
★Per834
0​
1528​
★Per941
0​
1529​
★Phe99
0​
1530​
★Phe338
0​
1531​
★Vel3634
0​
1532​
★Vel3485
0​
1533​
★Vel3734
0​
1534​
★Aqr8232
0​
1535​
★Aqr8414
0​
1536​
★Aqr8709
0​
1537​
★Aqr8518
0​
1538​
★Aqr7950
0​
1539​
★Aqr8499
0​
1540​
★Aqr8610
0​
1541​
★Aqr8264
0​
1542​
★Cru4853
0​
1543​
★Cru4730
0​
1544​
★Cru4763
0​
1545​
★Cru4700
0​
1546​
★Cru4656
0​
1547​
★PsA8728
0​
1548​
★TrA6217
0​
1549​
★Cap7776
0​
1550​
★Cap7754
0​
1551​
★Cap8278
0​
1552​
★Cap8322
0​
1553​
★Cap7773
0​
1554​
★Sge7479
0​
1555​
★Car2326
0​
1556​
★Car3685
0​
1557​
★Car3307
0​
1558​
★Car3699
0​
1559​
★Dra5744
0​
1560​
★Dra5291
0​
1561​
★Dra6705
0​
1562​
★Dra6536
0​
1563​
★Dra7310
0​
1564​
★Dra6688
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Fling power never needs to be empirically tested since it's part of the initial datamine for every game. A power of 0 means it can't be flung.
Good to know. Wish I knew that when testing all those ingredients. I imagine when Crown Tundra comes out the Ability Patch will fail when flung for the same reason the Ability Capsule fails. That would be signified as having a power of 0 in the Fling table, it seems.
 
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Apologies if this has already been answered, but if a Mold Breaker Pokemon uses a phasing move on a target with Regenerator, will Regenerator still trigger?
I just tested it. I had a Mold Breaker Pangoro use Circle Throw on a Regenerator Amoonguss. Regenerator worked as normal. This is consistent as Mold Breaker only ignores abilities that alter the success of a move, not ones that have effects after the move finishes. So it ignores Levitate, but not Iron Barbs, for example.
 
I just tested it. I had a Mold Breaker Pangoro use Circle Throw on a Regenerator Amoonguss. Regenerator worked as normal. This is consistent as Mold Breaker only ignores abilities that alter the success of a move, not ones that have effects after the move finishes. So it ignores Levitate, but not Iron Barbs, for example.
What about bringing IN a Regen mon? I'm not sure when exactly the Pokemon gets healed, but if it's upon switch-in and not switch-out, then it might work the same way how Mold Breaker phasing works with Magic Guard + hazard damage.
 

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420LegitShucks discovers a cool feature with stat calculation by investigating with Eternamax. If you are level 100 and have a stat boosting nature in Defense or Special Defense, Eternamax can reach a large 658 Defense or Special Defense stat. Or so you'd think! 654 Defense or Special Defense is as high as you can go; 655 will overflow to 0, 656 will overflow to 1, etc. SadisticMystic theorized and was later confirmed by the USUM source code that when stats are calculated with natures, rather than multiplying by 11 and dividing by 10 or some similar operation, they multiply by 110 or 90, then divide by 100. Moreover, this calculation is done in the context of an unsigned 16-bit integer, which means the value for such a calculation will overflow if it exceeds 65535. To give an example, suppose Eternamax has Bold Nature, 31 IVs, and 252 EVs. Recall that Eternamax has 250 base Defense. First, we calculate the stat without the nature:

Floor[(2 * Base + IV + floor[EV/4]) * Level) / 100) + 5
-> Plug in Eternamax's stats
Floor[(2 * 250+ 31 + floor[252/4]) * 100) / 100) + 5 =
Floor[(2 * 250+ 31 + 63) * 100) / 100) + 5 =
594 + 5 =
599

Now, take this 599, multiply by 110. 599*110 = 65890, which overflows back down to 65890 % 65536 = 354. Next, take 354 and divide by 100. 354/100 = 3.54, which rounds down to 3. So Eternamax's Defense in this case is 3.

See 420LegitShucks' original video or my upload for more data.

Now, this allows you to have a 0 Defense or Special Defense Eternamax. To review, the mechanics of 0 defense is unchanged since USUM; basically, you cancel out the base damage calculation where you attempt to divide by 0 and replace that value with 0. So every move attacking a Pokemon with 0 Defense or Special Defense will result in the attack having a base damage of 2 because of the +2 bit at the end of the base damage calculation. Subsequent modifiers to the move may increase or decrease this, but not by very much.

Note that this overflow only occurs if the stat is naturally calculated. You can't hack in a Pokemon directly with 655 Defense and expect it to be 0; it has to reach that 655 marker by normal means (a direct hack is ignoring the Nature calculation step). Because there was no Pokemon previously with a base stat that high in previous generations, no one would have been able to see this for themselves without ROM hacking the game. Of course, this overflow doesn't apply to HP, because HP does not have a nature component associated with it. It will only apply to Attack / Defense / Special Attack / Special Defense / Speed that has at least 249 for its base stat, 31 IVs, 252 EVs, and a boosting nature.
 

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It will only apply to Attack / Defense / Special Attack / Special Defense / Speed that has at least 249 for its base stat, 31 IVs, 252 EVs, and a boosting nature.
What specifically happens when the attacking stats overflow to 0? 2 damage again?
This is relevant for Mix and Mega post-DLC, when Kartana will be able to hit the requisite stat.

And Speed? Nothing in standard tiers or OMs I can think of hits this, but it would be good to know.
 
What specifically happens when the attacking stats overflow to 0? 2 damage again?
the entire thing (bar the +2) is multiplied by 0, so yes
And Speed? Nothing in standard tiers or OMs I can think of hits this, but it would be good to know.
there's no funky damage formula so it'd just be the slowest thing, or the fastest thing in tr until you break the tr boundary
also there's scale with magikarp/feebas and onix, and ts with shuckle
i suppose non-PH oms can patch this out / say its directly hacked / an alteration after the fact
 
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And Speed? Nothing in standard tiers or OMs I can think of hits this, but it would be good to know.
Chansey/Blissey in Flipped meet the requirements with base 250/255 speed, respectively. Blissey is banned, but Chansey is still fair game.

In a similar vein: how do Shell Side Arm, Download, and Photon Geyser interact with this mechanic. And anything else similar that I'm overlooking.
Add Strength Sap, Guard Split, Power Split, Power Trick, Speed Swap and Gyro Ball to this list. They probably act how one would imagine they would, but they're still worth checking out.
 
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