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The 2010-11 Football/Soccer Thread
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I think Nani has had the better season but Tevez has had a lot less to work with.
De Jong,Kompany and at times Silva and Ya Ya Toure have been really good at City, but the team still doesn't seem to work and i really think they would be struggling to make top 8 without Tevez's goals and influence. They are pretty much set for at least a top 5 finish and are in the FA cup final and he is the main reason.
Nani is a great player and has had a great season, but with or without him United are at absolute worst a top 3 side, Ferguson would still have found a way to make sure they were favorites for the title and had a good champions league campaign, Nani could have spent the season injured.
Nani wouldn't have done what Tevez has done for City.
De Jong,Kompany and at times Silva and Ya Ya Toure have been really good at City, but the team still doesn't seem to work and i really think they would be struggling to make top 8 without Tevez's goals and influence. They are pretty much set for at least a top 5 finish and are in the FA cup final and he is the main reason.
Nani is a great player and has had a great season, but with or without him United are at absolute worst a top 3 side, Ferguson would still have found a way to make sure they were favorites for the title and had a good champions league campaign, Nani could have spent the season injured.
Nani wouldn't have done what Tevez has done for City.
yeah, it's nice that they don't have that small team mentality that you're showing
Tomorrow Real Madrid-Barça. Again.
4 of them in 20 days is craziness, lol
4 of them in 20 days is craziness, lol
hoping the classico is like the last one :3 most people hate it when a team parks the bus but i sure don't D:
i love seeing teams with no solution whatsoever, unable to break through a rock solid defense like when mourinho's inter held barca or when we held arsenal earlier (even though we had more chances than them which shows how well the defense was organised). i love how barca and arsenal start passing around the ball helplessly in the midfield.
i love seeing teams with no solution whatsoever, unable to break through a rock solid defense like when mourinho's inter held barca or when we held arsenal earlier (even though we had more chances than them which shows how well the defense was organised). i love how barca and arsenal start passing around the ball helplessly in the midfield.
ahaha honestly surprised by guthrie - the midfield on a whole was rather solid even without nolan, especially considering we were leading possession into the second half.
enrique also had a really solid game...
enrique also had a really solid game...
enrique is quality... he can defend and attack admirably, top top fullback. why he isn't capped for spain is beyond me. He just needs that move to a big club and liverpool happen to need a lb so there's a huge chance he's going to move.
Liverpool...big club? This ain't the 80's pal. xD
You're only 3 places ahead of us, we always pull in bigger crowds and we whooped you earlier in the season. If I'm Enrique I don't see the advantage (unless there's a lot of money in it for him).
Oh and
http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/engla...-deal-for-jose-enrique-newcastles-alan-pardew
You're only 3 places ahead of us, we always pull in bigger crowds and we whooped you earlier in the season. If I'm Enrique I don't see the advantage (unless there's a lot of money in it for him).
Oh and
http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/engla...-deal-for-jose-enrique-newcastles-alan-pardew
Man U held, Ferguson as usual says Hernandez didnt dive and it was penalty, and he pulled the didnt see card for Anderson's foul this time.
Seriously though Newcastle defended pretty well, not a lot went right for Rooney and Hernandez. Giggs missed a sitter, nothing going right in front of goal for him also.
Seriously though Newcastle defended pretty well, not a lot went right for Rooney and Hernandez. Giggs missed a sitter, nothing going right in front of goal for him also.
sorry lee, liverpool have loads of cash and everybody knows their ambitions, that alone makes lfc a big club.
newcastle is a selling club. i doubt you'll spend more than 10 million of the carroll money in the summer.
newcastle is a selling club. i doubt you'll spend more than 10 million of the carroll money in the summer.
lol, us a selling club?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...and-had-considered-leaving-for-some-time.html
you're only in your current pitiful state because you let Alonso and Mascherano go without a fight and never replaced them. ambition is no good unless you can back it up and y'all are pretty much locked out of the top 5 for the forseeable future because Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City and Tottenham are all better than you and (with the exception of Chelsea this season) all of them are getting better every season whereas Liverpool appear to be getting worse.
I think it bugs me especially as a Geordie because we used to be a big club. During the 90's we finished second two seasons in a row - at one point we were 12 points ahead of Man Utd and even beat them 5-0. As recently as 2002 we were in the second stage of the Champions League, and we finished in 3rd place in the League in 2003.
The difference between Newcastle and Liverpool is we let it go - we didn't hang onto history and constantly stick our fingers in our ears and go 'WE'RE A BIG CLUB! WE'RE A BIG CLUB! WE'RE A BIG CLUB!' and ignore the complete lack of silverware, the constant mediocrity and the lack of any meaningful future.
accept yourselves for what you are, not what you were. And what you are is a subtopper whose ambitions for the season should be 'push for a europa league place and maybe get a good cup run.' tell me i'm wrong.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...and-had-considered-leaving-for-some-time.html
you're only in your current pitiful state because you let Alonso and Mascherano go without a fight and never replaced them. ambition is no good unless you can back it up and y'all are pretty much locked out of the top 5 for the forseeable future because Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City and Tottenham are all better than you and (with the exception of Chelsea this season) all of them are getting better every season whereas Liverpool appear to be getting worse.
Lawrie Sanchez said:
I think it bugs me especially as a Geordie because we used to be a big club. During the 90's we finished second two seasons in a row - at one point we were 12 points ahead of Man Utd and even beat them 5-0. As recently as 2002 we were in the second stage of the Champions League, and we finished in 3rd place in the League in 2003.
The difference between Newcastle and Liverpool is we let it go - we didn't hang onto history and constantly stick our fingers in our ears and go 'WE'RE A BIG CLUB! WE'RE A BIG CLUB! WE'RE A BIG CLUB!' and ignore the complete lack of silverware, the constant mediocrity and the lack of any meaningful future.
accept yourselves for what you are, not what you were. And what you are is a subtopper whose ambitions for the season should be 'push for a europa league place and maybe get a good cup run.' tell me i'm wrong.
cmon we still had hicks & gillets as owners when we sold masch and alonso
liverpool are no longer the giants they were back then but they're still a ''big'' club and anyone that says otherwise is talking out of their ass.
lee, no need to get that worked up about enrique wanting to leave your poor newcastle, with your fat owner in charge, i wouldn't blame him for leaving... and lol @ lawrie sanchez, since when did this prick know what he talks about.
about manchester city and chelsea, remind in 2-3 years what will happen to them when fifa's financial fair play rules are here.
arsenal are never going to win shit, so I don't see how they are a big club because ''they won't win the title then go on to win the European Cup in the same season''
tottenham's CL run is a fluke (against very poor ac milan and inter sides) and if they don't end up in the top 4 they are going to have to sell their top players.
so manchester united is the only big club in the PL, that's laughable
liverpool are no longer the giants they were back then but they're still a ''big'' club and anyone that says otherwise is talking out of their ass.
lee, no need to get that worked up about enrique wanting to leave your poor newcastle, with your fat owner in charge, i wouldn't blame him for leaving... and lol @ lawrie sanchez, since when did this prick know what he talks about.
about manchester city and chelsea, remind in 2-3 years what will happen to them when fifa's financial fair play rules are here.
arsenal are never going to win shit, so I don't see how they are a big club because ''they won't win the title then go on to win the European Cup in the same season''
tottenham's CL run is a fluke (against very poor ac milan and inter sides) and if they don't end up in the top 4 they are going to have to sell their top players.
so manchester united is the only big club in the PL, that's laughable
arsenal play the best football in the premier league.
i dont think the 6th best club in the premier league can be called a big club, in the way its interpreted today. i dont mean 6th on the table either (its just coincidence that they are). it cannot be argued that the top 4 are all bigger than liverpool, but tottenham can be considered on par with liverpool...
intent and money alone dont make a big club - look at aston villa, theyve got money. enough to splash out 24 million on darren bent. theyve got intent to challenge top 4 within the next few seasons - which should also be liverpool's goal as anything higher is just impossible. are aston villa a big club?
would you consider man city a big club in mid 08? when they spent outrageous amounts of money on robinho and other players? i wouldnt, and its fairly obvious what their intentions were.
i dont think the 6th best club in the premier league can be called a big club, in the way its interpreted today. i dont mean 6th on the table either (its just coincidence that they are). it cannot be argued that the top 4 are all bigger than liverpool, but tottenham can be considered on par with liverpool...
intent and money alone dont make a big club - look at aston villa, theyve got money. enough to splash out 24 million on darren bent. theyve got intent to challenge top 4 within the next few seasons - which should also be liverpool's goal as anything higher is just impossible. are aston villa a big club?
would you consider man city a big club in mid 08? when they spent outrageous amounts of money on robinho and other players? i wouldnt, and its fairly obvious what their intentions were.
i agree with this but i wouldnt if it wasnt for the bolded words. its inly because of the horrific start under roy.
the difference is that liverpool is on the up while Arsenal is always going to end up second-best because wenger is too stubborn to listen to his critics.
trust me, Mr Dalglish is a world class manager. we havent won the league title since he left and he took blackburn from the championship to win the league title. admittedly, all of this came after he spent a lot of money, which shows he knows how to invest money in quality player. dalglish will win things before wenger, im 100% sure about this.
Sorry Lee, as much as I could continue on this forever, you're just bitter about the whole andy carroll / jose enrique situation. and you'll be even more bitter when some big club comes in and takes tiote. as long as you have an owner with no ambition whatsoever, you'll never be a big club again.
the difference between, newcastle and liverpool is in fact that the fans won't accept those claims that liverpool isn't a big club anymore, and knowing the reason of the 5 year trophy drought is the owners, the fans virtually forced a change of ownership.
for the record, i have a soft-spot for newcastle but i wouldn't be surprised if they end up in the championship once again
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Nos said:
good, we're in agreement!
i'm not bitter, maybe i'm just stoking the fires ahead of the 30th. ;p
but you can't keep assuming you have this 'big club drawing power' when it comes to transfers because big clubs should be in the champions league and you're not, nor will you be there anytime in the near future because of the aforementioned superiority of the other 5 clubs. if you're not in europe, you're not going to be able to lure in the big names. so stop talking like you have the freedom to pluck up any promising player in the world because...
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just keep repeating your arguments over and over again boy...
so bitter
im really sorry if enrique is too ambitious for your club.
so bitter
im really sorry if enrique is too ambitious for your club.
Obviously, I can't help but think Man Utd missed a big opportunity to all but seal the title last night, but in all honest, Newcastle played really well and deserved the draw. I think both 'incidents' were penalties in this day and age, but for both, the contact was so minimal, so I can understand why the referee didn't give either. If he gave one and not the other, that would have been a shambles. Hernandez didn't deserve a yellow card, though.
Hopefully Tottenham do us a favour tonight, I've got a match myself tonight, but hopefully I'll be home for the second half.
Hopefully Tottenham do us a favour tonight, I've got a match myself tonight, but hopefully I'll be home for the second half.
the referee's performance was admirable yesterday. Both penalty claims were very soft to award a penalty.
also, hernandez deserves a yellow card but nani and guttierez too because of diving. that's the only part where he might have done better.
i want tottenham to lose though :3 maybe we could get 5th.
also, hernandez deserves a yellow card but nani and guttierez too because of diving. that's the only part where he might have done better.
i want tottenham to lose though :3 maybe we could get 5th.
wow real madrid are dominating barca so badly barca havent even got a shot at goal and lucky to be at 0-0.
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